I Even Bleed Red Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Let’s argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Nuh uh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 In order to throw a deep ball you need to be able to set your feet and have proper form. That takes time to do. One thing that’s been a common theme is he hasn’t had time to do that. He has to rush his throws, his form isn’t great, and the long ball suffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseUpFalcs Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, Sun Tzu 7 said: In order to throw a deep ball you need to be able to set your feet and have proper form. That takes time to do. One thing that’s been a common theme is he hasn’t had time to do that. He has to rush his throws, his form isn’t great, and the long ball suffers. This times 1,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IA Falcon07 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, I Even Bleed Red said: Let’s argue. It’s been less than stellar but so has his ability to step into anything other than a 3 step drop. **** some of the pressurers were so fast today he didn’t even get a chance on 3 steps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, I Even Bleed Red said: Let’s argue. Never really been good on the deep ball but the one to Julio today was a flat out duck. Worst I've seen from him. Turrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: In order to throw a deep ball you need to be able to set your feet and have proper form. That takes time to do. One thing that’s been a common theme is he hasn’t had time to do that. He has to rush his throws, his form isn’t great, and the long ball suffers. You have to start off by calculating the hive. Once you have that, you do a regression model to see if it is correlative to the sop dap. Our problem is that there are too many null integers that are cotangent to the sop dap. Can we work through it? Maybe. Does a cat slide down the mountain on theater butter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, I Even Bleed Red said: Let’s argue. Let me introduce you to my wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: In order to throw a deep ball you need to be able to set your feet and have proper form. That takes time to do. One thing that’s been a common theme is he hasn’t had time to do that. He has to rush his throws, his form isn’t great, and the long ball suffers. I don't mean just this yr. I mean through out his career. Change my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 That thing he threw to Julio today was one of his worst passes ever. Julio didn't know if he should try to jump and grab or fair catch it. It looked like a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⚡Slumerican⚡ Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: In order to throw a deep ball you need to be able to set your feet and have proper form. That takes time to do. One thing that’s been a common theme is he hasn’t had time to do that. He has to rush his throws, his form isn’t great, and the long ball suffers. I've watched many qb's throw bombs down field this season on the run.. How is that possible then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⚡Slumerican⚡ Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Never really been good on the deep ball but the one to Julio today was a flat out duck. Worst I've seen from him. Turrible. Ducks wabble, that was the definition of a moon ball.. So embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Never really been good on the deep ball but the one to Julio today was a flat out duck. Worst I've seen from him. Turrible. The second one was nearly as bad. About 8 yards offline. Honestly it seems like Julio barely goes after the ball anymore. If one hit him in stride in the hands he'd be so shocked he'd drop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconJim Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Never really been good on the deep ball but the one to Julio today was a flat out duck. Worst I've seen from him. Turrible. Yea, Julio had to stop and wait about 2 seconds for the ball to come down! It's like the trajectory on his long ball throws are too high, and not far enough. I think a better O-line would help some of that, with giving him more time to set up, and get his feet right. But like you say, Ryan has never been great on the long throws, and the last 2-3 years they've been less than stellar, to say the least ---- makes me wonder if he isn't having some kind of arm/shoulder issues....I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Joe Montana had a lousy deep ball. Matt Ryan has a lousy deep ball. The difference is that Montana had an OL that could block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconJim Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, etherdome said: Joe Montana had a lousy deep ball. Matt Ryan has a lousy deep ball. The difference is that Montana had an OL that could block. BINGO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Whatever Matt did prior to the 2016 season he needs to do again. Cause that's the ONLY year in the last 5 that his deep ball has looked worth a crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekeyboy1 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, etherdome said: Joe Montana had a lousy deep ball. Matt Ryan has a lousy deep ball. The difference is that Montana had an OL that could block. Montana and Ryan should never be used in the same sentence..Just sayin.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekeyboy1 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) Montana also didnt move around like he had weights on his ankles..lol Edited December 2, 2018 by zekeyboy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, FalconJim said: Yea, Julio had to stop and wait about 2 seconds for the ball to come down! It's like the trajectory on his long ball throws are too high, and not far enough. I think a better O-line would help some of that, with giving him more time to set up, and get his feet right. But like you say, Ryan has never been great on the long throws, and the last 2-3 years they've been less than stellar, to say the least ---- makes me wonder if he isn't having some kind of arm/shoulder issues....I hope not. I think that one slipped. At least I hope so. The year he went to the throwing camp in Cali his deep ball was much better. No excess air under it. Won MVP and went to a Bowl. He needs to go back to that camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, zekeyboy1 said: Montana also didnt move around like he had weights on his ankles.. Nothing but a bunch of truth here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spts1 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: In order to throw a deep ball you need to be able to set your feet and have proper form. That takes time to do. One thing that’s been a common theme is he hasn’t had time to do that. He has to rush his throws, his form isn’t great, and the long ball suffers. Polease... Edited December 2, 2018 by slickgadawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shock Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Not being able to read the field longer than 3 seconds max is definitely a big factor. But he consistently misses wide open guys deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: In order to throw a deep ball you need to be able to set your feet and have proper form. That takes time to do. One thing that’s been a common theme is he hasn’t had time to do that. He has to rush his throws, his form isn’t great, and the long ball suffers. Agree.. I try and be honest about Ryan and I know he doesn't have a really strong arm. He's def bottom half of the league, but he has overcome this in the past when he has had time to step into his throws. Every long ball he threw terribly today, he was throwing off his back foot if not absolutely falling backwards. He never has a chance to step up in the pocket like a lot of other guys do. I get it. He doesn't have a really strong arm, but it's not fair to judge him with this craptastic O-line. With what we have protecting him, slow developing deep routes that don't start to break open until receivers are 40 yards downfield are going to be a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, zekeyboy1 said: Montana also didnt move around like he had weights on his ankles.. Montana also didn't have this offensive line, this non-running game, or this OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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