fed up !!! Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 ..is that for this ownership the number one priority, by far, is marketing and ticket sales, over doing what is necessary to sustain a long lasting winning program.Let me explain. Most of our drafts tend toward the "splashy" rather than the meat and potatoes of football,and y'all know what that is. But a big lineman is not as sexy as a fancy wide receiver,and can't be counted upon to excite the fans with an acrobatic catch at the back of the end zone.The problem with this of course is that too many times we can't stop the opposition from running it down our throat,and on the other side way too many times we allow our QB to take a real beating. But the biggest problem to me is the assinine cutting of ties with GOOD and SOLID players like Dimarco and Toilolo to save a couple of million in salary, and then turning around and replacing them with minimum wage guys so we can have a little extra cash for Julio.It is my contention that with those two exceptional blockers on the roster we have at least two more wins so far this season. I'm going to stop before i get upset.... fire away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Can Dimarco and Toilolo play Defense? I suspect you haven’t watched single falcons game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. T. Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 It's all a conspiracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, E. T. said: It's all a conspiracy! totally agree. They're bound and determined to keep letting the crap get posted here to make those of us with some little portion of sanity lose it too, so we'll be like the rest of 'em.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. T. Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, papachaz said: totally agree. They're bound and determined to keep letting the crap get posted here to make those of us with some little portion of sanity lose it too, so we'll be like the rest of 'em.... Those pesky Russians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl Falcon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I would never question AB desire to win...now knowing how is another question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, E. T. said: Those pesky Russians! They control AB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, E. T. said: Those pesky Russians! It’s the liberal media. They’re behind all of it! First it was the Saints, then it was the Pats, and now the injuries. The Falcons haven’t lost a game. It’s all FAKENEWS!!!! Sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fed up !!! Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 I've watched the Falcons play since 1970 secret agent.I think i can state an opinion,and to answer your question, the biggest dysfunction with this team is on the offensive side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 39 minutes ago, E. T. said: Those pesky Russians! EXACTLY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Toilolo was awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 You mean the team only wants to make money? For shame! That's what all the teams want to do. In order to do that you have to win. I doubt Quinn and Blank, etc are against winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Dog THA GAWD Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 hours ago, fed up !!! said: Most of our drafts tend toward the "splashy" rather than the meat and potatoes of football, and y'all know what that is. We've known this ever since they drafted Julio instead of solid linemen, or JJ Watt, after not forcing the Packers to punt even once in the 2011 playoffs. All sizzle and no steak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 5 hours ago, papachaz said: totally agree. They're bound and determined to keep letting the crap get posted here to make those of us with some little portion of sanity lose it too, so we'll be like the rest of 'em.... Now you’re coming over to my side!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Fan MVP Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 5 hours ago, fed up !!! said: ..is that for this ownership the number one priority, by far, is marketing and ticket sales, over doing what is necessary to sustain a long lasting winning program.Let me explain. Most of our drafts tend toward the "splashy" rather than the meat and potatoes of football,and y'all know what that is. But a big lineman is not as sexy as a fancy wide receiver,and can't be counted upon to excite the fans with an acrobatic catch at the back of the end zone.The problem with this of course is that too many times we can't stop the opposition from running it down our throat,and on the other side way too many times we allow our QB to take a real beating. But the biggest problem to me is the assinine cutting of ties with GOOD and SOLID players like Dimarco and Toilolo to save a couple of million in salary, and then turning around and replacing them with minimum wage guys so we can have a little extra cash for Julio.It is my contention that with those two exceptional blockers on the roster we have at least two more wins so far this season. I'm going to stop before i get upset.... fire away. We got the flashy names (Julio, Ridley, Free, MR2,) now let's get the meat and potatoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 hours ago, fed up !!! said: ..is that for this ownership the number one priority, by far, is marketing and ticket sales, over doing what is necessary to sustain a long lasting winning program.Let me explain. Most of our drafts tend toward the "splashy" rather than the meat and potatoes of football,and y'all know what that is. But a big lineman is not as sexy as a fancy wide receiver,and can't be counted upon to excite the fans with an acrobatic catch at the back of the end zone.The problem with this of course is that too many times we can't stop the opposition from running it down our throat,and on the other side way too many times we allow our QB to take a real beating. But the biggest problem to me is the assinine cutting of ties with GOOD and SOLID players like Dimarco and Toilolo to save a couple of million in salary, and then turning around and replacing them with minimum wage guys so we can have a little extra cash for Julio.It is my contention that with those two exceptional blockers on the roster we have at least two more wins so far this season. I'm going to stop before i get upset.... fire away. Umm, duh? But Mr. Blank also understands that a winning program fills the seats, and he's been fairly successful at getting the right people to do that even if it hasn't translated to winning a Super Bowl. But he's not and shouldn't get involved in actual football operations (like Jerry Jones) and leave that to the people he hired. He's been one of the best owners I think. But yeah, any smart owner's first priority is the bottom line. It's pretty silly to think otherwise and even sillier to think there's something wrong with that. If this franchise wasn't making any money Atlanta probably wouldn't have one by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 hours ago, fed up !!! said: ..is that for this ownership the number one priority, by far, is marketing and ticket sales, over doing what is necessary to sustain a long lasting winning program.Let me explain. Most of our drafts tend toward the "splashy" rather than the meat and potatoes of football,and y'all know what that is. But a big lineman is not as sexy as a fancy wide receiver,and can't be counted upon to excite the fans with an acrobatic catch at the back of the end zone.The problem with this of course is that too many times we can't stop the opposition from running it down our throat,and on the other side way too many times we allow our QB to take a real beating. But the biggest problem to me is the assinine cutting of ties with GOOD and SOLID players like Dimarco and Toilolo to save a couple of million in salary, and then turning around and replacing them with minimum wage guys so we can have a little extra cash for Julio.It is my contention that with those two exceptional blockers on the roster we have at least two more wins so far this season. I'm going to stop before i get upset.... fire away. Some of that may be true but: TD drafted Julio. Most of those picks turn-out to be nothing for The Browns. Most of the players picked after that trade are out of the Leaugue. Ridley: was a good "Value-Pick". It made sense. Julio is "getting-up there" and he was asking for more money. Sanu 's money will be used in other places soon. They needed a prospect at WR. TD, Pioli and Quinn drafted defense every draft, but this one. When The Falcons offense getsprotection, and a RB who can block for Ryan as well as make the correct "cuts" in this scheme, they will be more potent that The Saints. TD during the Smith seasons: He drafted an SEC guard from Alabama! That guy could not remain healthy. Same for the prospect from Wisconsin. They were supposed to be the interior line for The Falcons for 3-6 seasons here. Even I have to say that this was dire misfortune for TD and Smith even. That's why Ridley was a good pick. You do not know what may happen. Need a potential #1 WR. If Ed Oliver is available at #7 in the 2019 NFL Draft. TD, Pioli, and Quinn, must draft him (or any other dominant DL) Even though they have Senat, and wil re-sign Grady Jarrett, they have zero Pro Bowlers at DT. Plus, injuries can change your season. Great "value pick". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Of course that's what Blank cares about. That's what every owner in the league cares about. The trick? You make more money if you win more because you get more fans if you win more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 31 upset fan bases every year. We're not special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 10 hours ago, fed up !!! said: ..is that for this ownership the number one priority, by far, is marketing and ticket sales, over doing what is necessary to sustain a long lasting winning program. The problem with this theory is that Arthur Blank clearly understands that having a winning team is the only way to sell tickets in Atlanta. It's not Green Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Yea pretty much, We have continually neglected our OL and DL and always have schemes in place to light finesse guys ont he OL and DL that get beat up and pushed around all the time. Sadly the powers that be don't realize with a good solid OL and DL our flashy skill players would be ever better and become bigger stars. In the long run it is anti productive in every way shape and form to keep neglecting the OL and DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 If Arthur Blank didn't care about winning, wouldn't Jim Mora still be here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IA Falcon07 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 This complaint would make sense if winning wasn’t the number 1 way to maximize ticket sales and revenue. I highly doubt that “boring” draft picks have been passed over for flashy players in attempt to solely sell tickets. The two may be correlated in that they thought the flashy players would help translate to wins though, which can be argued as a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 17 hours ago, falcons007 said: Can Dimarco and Toilolo play Defense? I suspect you haven’t watched single falcons game. But our offense did not really need too much better of a defense than present in 2016-17 - we simply outscored everybody until the end where time management screwed us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 18 hours ago, falcons007 said: Can Dimarco and Toilolo play Defense? I suspect you haven’t watched single falcons game. Lol! I was thinking same thing....not sure may be theres an alternative reality for some fans or I should say for front office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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