JD dirtybird21 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, jdawg4876 said: the one thing I want is a ball hawk at cb like we had in 12 with asante. we dont have that on our team. our two best catchers are a FS in kazee and a mlb in deion jones I think it’s more scheme man. Our defense is about not giving up the big play. Our corners play off the receivers and are coached to break up the catch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg4876 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: **** that. Collins and Alford deserved it lol disagree collins looked bad in pre season and TC but in real games he played as well as trufant or rocky in 16. he had 2 ints forced some fumbles and had 10 pass defended and only played in 8 reg season games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, jdawg4876 said: disagree collins looked bad in pre season and TC but in real games he played as well as trufant or rocky in 16. he had 2 ints forced some fumbles and had 10 pass defended and only played in 8 reg season games Until it mattered most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg4876 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I think it’s more scheme man. Our defense is about not giving up the big play. Our corners play off the receivers and are coached to break up the catch disagree trufant dropped 3 alone today. rocky has dropped some this yr, brian poole is a hitter not a ball hawk. Ricardo Allen is ok and much like trufant Keanu Neal has never met a ball that he didnt want to drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg4876 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said: Until it mattered most. Id put that on rocky in the suberbowl. went through his hand hand Edleman kept it off the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, jdawg4876 said: Id put that on rocky in the suberbowl. went through his hand hand Edleman kept it off the ground Pretty sure you saw Collins get tortured by Brady in that game. Can’t put that off on Alford who had a pick 6 and if we’re being honest Edelman had a top 5 super bowl catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg4876 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, ya_boi_j said: Pretty sure you saw Collins get tortured by Brady in that game. Can’t put that off on Alford who had a pick 6 and if we’re being honest Edelman had a top 5 super bowl catch. I saw the whole defense collapse the 2nd half and an offense that didnt help from the mid third on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, jdawg4876 said: I saw the whole defense collapse the 2nd half and an offense that didnt help from the mid third on. So you not going to acknowledge Collins got tortured by Brady. Don’t give me a long drawn out response. Just a simple he did or he didntdidn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanfranfalcon Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, octoslash said: Neasman made about five really nice plays today, I was impressed. with Neasman out there Richards should not see the field except in emergency... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 He's on schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, sanfranfalcon said: with Neasman out there Richards should not see the field except in emergency... Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg4876 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: So you not going to acknowledge Collins got tortured by Brady. Don’t give me a long drawn out response. Just a simple he did or he didntdidn’t He got picked on yes. But so did others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I think the biggest thing with him is getting him to turn his head around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, octoslash said: Neasman made about five really nice plays today, I was impressed. There was a job to be had with Neal going down and he ripped it right away from that scrub Richards. Good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Talk Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, osiruz said: I think the biggest thing with him is getting him to turn his head around. This is true, but you have to remember Ollie is still just a kid at 21-years old. Probably why Quinn is bringing him along slowly, up until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfan4life3 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Oliver improving every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 5:56 PM, jdawg4876 said: his speed will be a problem his whole career, against speedsters he will be burned. he relies on his big frame and long arms a lot, and like we both said he is far too late turning his head. he is an ideal outside corner though You make up for speedy wr’s with technique. Richard Sherman was never fast but he always played great technique and used his length. In this system Oliver doesn’t need to be a 4.3 corner. Cover 3 is ALL about technique. Richard Sherman broke up a deep pass to Julio in the playoffs in his prime. We all know sherm can’t run with Julio but his technique made it possible to run with him and then the length comes in. This will not be a career problem for Oliver at all. Alford runs a 4.3 and was burnt by AB cause he used bad technique. Playing corner isn’t about great speed. That’s the plus. It’s about the technique. You can be a 4.2 and get burnt all the time because a smart wr like Julio recognized your poor technique before the snap and used it to his advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' In DC Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, falconsfan4life3 said: Oliver improving every week. This is after very little playing time. I wouldn't rush Alford back this week and let him get a whole lot more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 He was decent, those redskin wr made some unbelievable catches. He was step for step though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBiscuit Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 6:25 PM, jdawg4876 said: Id put that on rocky in the suberbowl. went through his hand hand Edleman kept it off the ground Rocky had a pick 6 in that game. That lost was entirely on Shanahan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Shady Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I was just happy not seeing Alford out there helping the other team with holding and pass interference penalties. I thought Oliver did ok, nothing jaw dropping, but not bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 6:22 PM, jdawg4876 said: disagree collins looked bad in pre season and TC but in real games he played as well as trufant or rocky in 16. he had 2 ints forced some fumbles and had 10 pass defended and only played in 8 reg season games And then was abused in the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg4876 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, TheFatboi said: You make up for speedy wr’s with technique. Richard Sherman was never fast but he always played great technique and used his length. In this system Oliver doesn’t need to be a 4.3 corner. Cover 3 is ALL about technique. Richard Sherman broke up a deep pass to Julio in the playoffs in his prime. We all know sherm can’t run with Julio but his technique made it possible to run with him and then the length comes in. This will not be a career problem for Oliver at all. Alford runs a 4.3 and was burnt by AB cause he used bad technique. Playing corner isn’t about great speed. That’s the plus. It’s about the technique. You can be a 4.2 and get burnt all the time because a smart wr like Julio recognized your poor technique before the snap and used it to his advantage. Right but his technique is not there yet and we don't know if he's going to turn into a Richard Sherman just because he has a a big frame and long arms doesn't mean he's going to play like sherman just cuz he looks like sherman but I hope he does but right now he doesnt even get his head turned at all in time. which is fine he is a rook. I was just making a point. But I really don't see him getting a ton of interceptions I went back and watched a lot of his college tape on him and he's the clasic stick your hand in and Poke the ball out. Richard Sherman was always looking for the int when thrown his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg4876 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, Malachore said: And then was abused in the SB. The whole defense was abused in the second half and the offense didn't help them out enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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