In defense of Michael Turner

[esmithidoc 347]

After Turner retired, there was a great deal of talk on the Board about how he was gobbling burgers, fat, and in terrible shape.  I saw him at the Benz last weekend, and I have to say that he is in great shape and looks ready to fill in for an injured Freeman. Great job, Burner!! We miss you.

 

[Osiruz 6,445]

I still think he was the best RB we ever had and dumped him a year too early. 60 Tds is not a joke, go ask Julio.

[octoslash 10,116]

He was awesome but I think no Falcons running back was better than William Andrews. 

[The Falcon Jedi Knight 5,593]

Michael Turner was THE #1 Free Agent RB available when we got him. And he was Outstanding for many years. But RBs come to the Falcons to die, and we ran him like a Mule every season until he finally broke down. You cant carry 400 times per season and survive long in the NFL.

[Andrews_31 3,278]

17 minutes ago, osiruz said:

I still think he was the best RB we ever had................................

 

Nooooooooooooooooooooo, that's William Andrews by a mile!

[Osiruz 6,445]

Even Andrews didn't average 12 tds per season.

[Andrews_31 3,278]

1 minute ago, osiruz said:

Even Andrews didn't average 12 tds per season.

I hope that is not what you are basing that on.  As for the top three back the Falcons ever had (IMNSHO), that would be Andrews, Riggs, and Dunn!

[quickzero 534]

Turner's final year in Atlanta he had a 60 yard reception TD; second longest of the season on the team behind Julio's 80 yarder.

[4dabirds 2,978]

10 minutes ago, octoslash said:

He was awesome but I think no Falcons running back was better than William Andrews. 

I loved seeing Andrews do his thing. However, Turner had more TDs and 5.5 yards per carry average as opposed to Andrews 4.6. Turner had 60 Tds in 5 years as a Falcon, whereas Andrews had 41 in 6 years with the Falcons. Andrews was the better reciever and had nearly 200 more receptions, and 10 more receiving TDs, and finished with 8633 yards from scrimmage as opposed to Turner's 7866 between Atlanta and San Diego.

The stats make an argument for Turner being the better back.

[Geneaut 3,481]

8 minutes ago, osiruz said:

Even Andrews didn't average 12 tds per season.

Turner didn't average 5.4 yds a touch like Andrews did either. Andrews generated almost 2000 more yards from scrimmage than Turner in a Falcons uniform ( both in 5 seasons with Atlanta ). That's not knocking Turner at all, but Andrews was a HOSS.

That knee injury ruined something special ....

Edited October 18, 2018 by Geneaut

[Andrews_31 3,278]

5 minutes ago, 4dabirds said:

I loved seeing Andrews do his thing. However, Turner had more TDs and 5.5 yards per carry average as opposed to Andrews 4.6. Turner had 60 Tds in 5 years as a Falcon, whereas Andrews had 41 in 6 years with the Falcons. Andrews was the better reciever and had nearly 200 more receptions, and 10 more receiving TDs, and finished with 8633 yards from scrimmage as opposed to Turner's 7866 between Atlanta and San Diego.

The stats make an argument for Turner being the better back.

Bruh, Andrews was KILLING the NFL!  If it hadn't been for (that *****) Dan Henning tearing up Andrews' knee during a preseason game, we wouldn't be having this discussion, Andrews would be in the HoF!  He wasn't even the top back at Auburn when he was there  (Brooks and Cribbs)!  Atlanta STOLE William Andrews!

[Yo_Lover 17,350]

3 minutes ago, Geneaut said:

Turner didn't average 5.4 yds a touch like Andrews did either. Andrews generated almost 2000 more yards from scrimmage than Turner in a Falcons uniform ( both in 5 seasons with Atlanta ). That's not knocking Turner at all, but Andrews was a HOSS.

 

Neither did Andrews. His average was 4.6.

[The Falcon Jedi Knight 5,593]

William Andrews was my favorite RB ever

[Andrews_31 3,278]

Just now, The Falcon Jedi Knight said:

William Andrews was my favorite RB ever

Same.  These young Thundercats too young to remember Andrews almost killing somebody on live TV on a screen pass!

[The Falcon Jedi Knight 5,593]

Just now, Andrews_31 said:

Same.  These young Thundercats too young to remember Andrews almost killing somebody on live TV on a screen pass!

When he broke into the secondary, he just went head-first and destroyed defenders. That was back when football was real football. I think Ronnie Lott still has memory loss from that one hit he took from him.

[Andrews_31 3,278]

Just now, The Falcon Jedi Knight said:

When he broke into the secondary, he just went head-first and destroyed defenders. That was back when football was real football. I think Ronnie Lott still has memory loss from that one hit he took from him.

That might have been Lott that he straight up trucked and **** near killed!

[Geneaut 3,481]

10 minutes ago, 4dabirds said:

I loved seeing Andrews do his thing. However, Turner had more TDs and 5.5 yards per carry average as opposed to Andrews 4.6. Turner had 60 Tds in 5 years as a Falcon, whereas Andrews had 41 in 6 years with the Falcons. Andrews was the better reciever and had nearly 200 more receptions, and 10 more receiving TDs, and finished with 8633 yards from scrimmage as opposed to Turner's 7866 between Atlanta and San Diego.

The stats make an argument for Turner being the better back.

Turner averaged 5.5 yds a carry in SD. In Atlanta he was 4.3 yds a carry, and 4.5 yds a carry for his career. 

We were lucky to have both but with the exception of TDs Andrews matches Turner very well in stats. Toss in William's blocking and receiving skills and a lot of us old timers like #31 better.

Different eras and different systems so hard to compare, but fun to debate

[Geneaut 3,481]

12 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said:

Neither did Andrews. His average was 4.6.

A touch ( carries and receptions )... not a carry. Andrews averaged 5.4 yds a touch.

Andrews was a complete back. Ran like a RB, caught like WR, and blocked like a FB ( the position he was drafted as ).

Edited October 18, 2018 by Geneaut

[Geneaut 3,481]

7 minutes ago, Andrews_31 said:

Same.  These young Thundercats too young to remember Andrews almost killing somebody on live TV on a screen pass!

That Denver CB he trucked for like an 80 yd TD on a little swing pass was a thing of beauty.

Edited October 18, 2018 by Geneaut

[The Falcon Jedi Knight 5,593]

 

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[RING OF HONOR 10,504]

8 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said:

Neither did Andrews. His average was 4.6.

I could be wrong..but I think thats his per carry average....the 5.4 is his per touch average...which includes his receiving yards

[Geneaut 3,481]

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Edited October 18, 2018 by Geneaut

[ya_boi_j 38,768]

30 minutes ago, osiruz said:

Even Andrews didn't average 12 tds per season.

Why is tds the only thing some of you guys choose to judge players by

[Geneaut 3,481]

I'm talking up Andrews as my favorite but Turner was a beast also. I also don't forget Riggs and Dunn.

[Atl Falcon 1,395]

 I stood right beside him.....he’s definitely a little heavy and not at his prime playing weight but he did look ok