athell 31,480 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I know a lot of people are going to freak out over this, but I'm not one of them. These guys are vets, they don't need these preseason reps. Rather them be as close to 100% healthy as possible for Philly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,480 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Also, Julio out means more reps for Calvin which is a good thing. Devonta out means more reps for Ito which is a good thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YoungHeezy 9,259 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I don’t want Debo to play either if it’s an injury slowing him down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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jdawg4876 7,234 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 im not worried about about julio or freeman at all. I hope deion jones is ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUju2111 1,475 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stizz 5,594 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, TRUju2111 said: My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! This is a valid concern after what we saw last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,480 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, jdawg4876 said: im not worried about about julio or freeman at all. I hope deion jones is ok Sounds like the only real legit injury here is Garland. The rest sound like preventative measures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,480 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, TRUju2111 said: My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! They didn't lose chemistry, people forgot how to catch balls last year. The offense lead the league in drops, that has nothing to do with chemistry. I'd be much more concerned if they weren't full go's in practice. Which they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUju2111 1,475 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, athell said: They didn't lose chemistry, people forgot how to catch balls last year. The offense lead the league in drops, that has nothing to do with chemistry. I'd be much more concerned if they weren't full go's in practice. Which they are. Ryan overthrew Julio on just about every deep pass he threw to him last year. The one they connected on, Carolina, Julio dropped. The deep ball was never really a threat last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boise Falcon Fan 4,027 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I think its a good idea to leave them out. Don't need JJ or Freeman hurt when the real games start. And as was mentioned previously, the reps for our important rookies is a great thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,480 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TRUju2111 said: Ryan overthrew Julio on just about every deep pass he threw to him last year. The one they connected on, Carolina, Julio dropped. The deep ball was never really a threat last year. Execution. That was the problem last year. 'Chemistry' was not the issue. This isn't high school science. 2 series in a preseason game with vanilla schemes and playcalling isn't going to magically bring back anything. These dudes have been together now for several years. Edited August 21, 2018 by athell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Francis 6,903 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 The game has changed. Teams, primarily offenses don’t use preseason to get in sync anymore. They use the week leading up to game 1 and the first few games of the season. That’s why the product often times is so bad early on. This was discussed nationally 6 or 7 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YoungHeezy 9,259 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, TRUju2111 said: My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! Julio missed the whole training camp last year. He got every training camp rep this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shockerfalcon 1,929 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, TRUju2111 said: My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! By all reports their chemistry seemed fine throughout TC. Besides it gives Matt a chance to build chemistry with all other players not named Julio. Being able to move the ball as effectively as he did against the Chiefs speaks volumes. After all if the Falcons can move the ball like that without arguably its 2 best offensive players. Imagine the ease they will have when they are on the field and the dynamic of the defense changes. Right now teams can play the falcons straight up because they don’t fear/respect the non JJ11/Free24 players. Additionally with the emergence of hooper, Ridley, and Saubert DC’s around the league have no idea what the Falcons offense will really look like. It’s a borderline genius chess move to hold Free and JJ out for the entire preseason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, TRUju2111 said: My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! No need to worry, Julio got his money. They're good now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peyton 21,045 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, jdawg4876 said: im not worried about about julio or freeman at all. I hope deion jones is ok Deion is fine and Julio will be fine. Freeman is the guy people should be worried about. The guy injured his PCL and his MCL at the end of last year in addition to two concussions on the season. I get the precaution, but I'm glad that the Falcons have Tevin Coleman and got another talent in the draft in Ito. Freeman is an ongoing injury risk at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlchamp99 269 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, TRUju2111 said: My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! they practically didnt have a training camp together...this year is way different! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caponine 6,586 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Freeman and Julio have not taken any significant blows / tackles since January. That alone is a concern not too mention Freeman getting use to the new helmet rule. Lack of chemistry, lol the same people that are saying not to worry are the same people that said Freeman’s fumbles were not a concern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, caponine said: Freeman and Julio have not taken any significant blows / tackles since January. That alone is a concern not too mention Freeman getting use to the new helmet rule. Lack of chemistry, lol the same people that are saying not to worry are the same people that said Freeman’s fumbles were not a concern. What are you trying to say? Just say it...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,480 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, shockerfalcon said: By all reports their chemistry seemed fine throughout TC. Besides it gives Matt a chance to build chemistry with all other players not named Julio. Being able to move the ball as effectively as he did against the Chiefs speaks volumes. After all if the Falcons can move the ball like that without arguably its 2 best offensive players. Imagine the ease they will have when they are on the field and the dynamic of the defense changes. Right now teams can play the falcons straight up because they don’t fear/respect the non JJ11/Free24 players. Additionally with the emergence of hooper, Ridley, and Saubert DC’s around the league have no idea what the Falcons offense will really look like. It’s a borderline genius chess move to hold Free and JJ out for the entire preseason. Well said. I don't know why people think rapport established over 7 years together somehow goes away after 1 offseason? Or acting like they won't be able to complete a pass because they are missing some bogus exhibition game while ignoring the previous 7 years of history together? One of the things I will never understand about this place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
athell 31,480 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, caponine said: Freeman and Julio have not taken any significant blows / tackles since January. That alone is a concern not too mention Freeman getting use to the new helmet rule. Lack of chemistry, lol the same people that are saying not to worry are the same people that said Freeman’s fumbles were not a concern. So you are concerned they aren't taking a beating? lol...that's a new one. I also love how you always take the opportunity to get a Devonta dig in somewhere. What did that man ever do to you Cap? lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, athell said: So you are concerned they aren't taking a beating? lol...that's a new one. I also love how you always take the opportunity to get a Devonta dig in somewhere. What did that man ever do to you Cap? lol He took his girl!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sipifalcon 1,939 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 32 minutes ago, TRUju2111 said: My worry is with Julio, last year him and Ryan had a disconnect, they lost there chemestry. Not working together in the offseason, not getting reps in preseason, I am very concerned. THEY NEED TO BE ON POINT FOR THIS OFFENSE TO SUCCEED! Good point but with julios injury problems its a matter of when since we know it's gonna happen... Might as well be in the season... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kschreck 5,798 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, athell said: They didn't lose chemistry, people forgot how to catch balls last year. The offense lead the league in drops, that has nothing to do with chemistry. I'd be much more concerned if they weren't full go's in practice. Which they are. Exactly. Reps in practice are much more important for their timing and execution than Matt throwing the ball to Julio 3 times in a preseason game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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