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What's To Come: Grady Jarrett

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So what is Senat’s expected role based on his skill set?

1T with some switching to 3T every now and then?

If so, then why or what video can you point me to that explains why that makes sense for him?

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9 minutes ago, ATLFalcons11 said:

So what is Senat’s expected role based on his skill set?

1T with some switching to 3T every now and then?

If so, then why or what video can you point me to that explains why that makes sense for him?

I'm actually going to do as many players on defense as I can. Senat is definitely on the list. I hope to finish before PS so we can see how these guys are being used as either confirmation or not. 

But I think Senat is going to play Rubin's role early on, coming in as a run stopping specialist with one job. As rookies, DQ has tried to give his guys simple roles that their talent naturally fills before asking for more. 

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25 minutes ago, vel said:

I'm actually going to do as many players on defense as I can. Senat is definitely on the list. I hope to finish before PS so we can see how these guys are being used as either confirmation or not. 

But I think Senat is going to play Rubin's role early on, coming in as a run stopping specialist with one job. As rookies, DQ has tried to give his guys simple roles that their talent naturally fills before asking for more. 

That makes sense. I appreciate it @vel  

Can’t wait to see more. 

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Man grady is a beast. Losing poe will not hurt us from all you pointed out grady can do. He is one of my favorite players on this team and the falcons robbed the entire league getting him in the 5th.

Great analysis bro. I felt like he had a down year i see why now. He was at the 1 most of the time. He flashed but flashes a lot more at the three.

The league is in trouble.  We have some monsters on the line. Not to mention the ones roaming behind them.

Edited by red falcon

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Thanks for posting Vel. You know, we can find many things to critique about the entire D-line, but at the end of the day, this group of men are young, athletic, and up coming. We forget all of the positives, and there are many positives about them. I'm expecting a breakout year for not only Jarrett, but the dline as a whole. DQ is molding something special.

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2 hours ago, vel said:

I'm actually going to do as many players on defense as I can. Senat is definitely on the list. I hope to finish before PS so we can see how these guys are being used as either confirmation or not. 

But I think Senat is going to play Rubin's role early on, coming in as a run stopping specialist with one job. As rookies, DQ has tried to give his guys simple roles that their talent naturally fills before asking for more. 

That would be great! It would be cool if you could post one every 3 days. That would give us plenty of football fodder to hold us till training camp news takes over. I wish I was as knowledgeable as some of y'all with diagnosing xs and os so I can help with posting quality news when u attend training campbut I don't truly know what I'm looking at half of the time Lol.

Do you think Senat has the build and measurables to be a grady clone? Another question that has always bothered me is if we don't have a big body like Poe and Solial in the middle with grady, doesn't it affect the chances Olinemen are able to block or smallish linebackers? 

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Yup... We let our DTs play both 3 tech and Nose...  I thonk moving around grady is big...  He is quick enough to attack as a 3 and he is stout enough to play Nose...  He also bring special quickness at the Nose when he lines up there

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2 hours ago, red falcon said:

Man grady is a beast. Losing poe will not hurt us from all you pointed out grady can do. He is one of my favorite players on this team and the falcons robbed the entire league getting him in the 5th.

Great analysis bro. I felt like he had a down year i see why now. He was at the 1 most of the time. He flashed but flashes a lot more at the three.

The league is in trouble.  We have some monsters on the line. Not to mention the ones roaming behind them.

Now instead of having this nagging fear we screwed up by not keeping Poe, I feel smug that we dumped him, saved some bucks and moved on. At least in the gifs you used, Poe did not look like a player who gave much of a dam about having an impact at either position he was used in. Good riddance. Whatever Poe could do, Grady can do better. Great analysis, Vel.

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Great thread @vel as always.  Always love these gif breakdown threads!

Grady is a manimal.  I am pretty giddy thinking about a line of Takk/Vic/Grady/Senat

Senat is unknown, but he has a lot of Grady in him.  Takk is primed for a breakout.  Vic is moving back to his strength as a pass rushing specialist and Grady is Grady.  This line could be special.

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6 hours ago, red falcon said:

I cant believe this hasnt gotten morw replies with the effort that was put in. Guess people just want drama.

Lol it did take a lot of time. Finally learned how to make GIFs. But like you said, the drama is more enticing for most. 

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5 hours ago, ShadyRef said:

That would be great! It would be cool if you could post one every 3 days. That would give us plenty of football fodder to hold us till training camp news takes over. I wish I was as knowledgeable as some of y'all with diagnosing xs and os so I can help with posting quality news when u attend training campbut I don't truly know what I'm looking at half of the time Lol.

Do you think Senat has the build and measurables to be a grady clone? Another question that has always bothered me is if we don't have a big body like Poe and Solial in the middle with grady, doesn't it affect the chances Olinemen are able to block or smallish linebackers? 

Grady clone? Not at all. More Brandon Mebane if you want a Seahawks comp. And don't confuse a big body with an occupying body. Big guys are useless without leverage. That was always Hageman's problem: playing too high and losing his leverage. He was strong as an ox but if an OL got up under him, it was over. Daniel McCullers always comes to mind for me, since this place loved him because he was big, but couldn't see how useless he was on film and how it wasn't something that could be corrected. The LBs will be fine because of the disruption they are going for on the DL. If Grady is in the backfield, the OL are either going to keep going to the LBs, leaving Grady to make the play, or they'll double back and try and block him, leaving the LBs unblocked. I'll show examples when I can. 

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40 minutes ago, vel said:

The LBs will be fine because of the disruption they are going for on the DL.

Speaking of LBs, what are your thoughts on Ishmael being Debo's back up.

Do ya think the Falcons could be looking around for more weight at the position? Debo played over 95% of snaps last season, if I remember correctly.

No derail, as I am in on the DLine doing what you stated. Good point.

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Here you go @ShadyRef

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This is versus the Vikings. You've got Grady at the 1T and Poe at the 3T. Grady is lined up in the weakside A gap and Debo has the strongside A gap, but they run a gap switch game inside. This is only something you can do when you have top tier speed and players who understand the leverage game. 

This is right after the snap:

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You can see Grady has already crossed the center's face, something OL should never let happen. But you also see Debo as the same time coming across to replace Grady. Every gap is accounted for. Grady is eating the double team without giving any ground. 

This is what it looks like after the RG peels off and tries to stop Debo:

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Nowhere to go. This is what DQ means when he speaks on leverage so much and the importance of getting it right. Size does not matter if you can't get your leverage right. Grady was doubled, but because he understood the leverage to keep his gap, as soon as the OG peels, he's right in the hole ready to make the play. If you notice, everybody has their leverage correct and gaps controlled. 

Here's the result:

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It was a 3rd & 1, so they convert, but this shows you how Grady can keep his LBs clean and how DL win with leverage before size. Again, not a slight to Poe, but losing him doesn't automatically mean our LBs are suddenly going to start getting mauled. 

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5 minutes ago, Tim Mazetti said:

Speaking of LBs, what are your thoughts on Ishmael being Debo's back up.

Do ya think the Falcons could be looking around for more weight at the position? Debo played over 95% of snaps last season, if I remember correctly.

No derail, as I am in on the DLine doing what you stated. Good point.

I'm perfectly fine with Ish as his backup. Remember, we play two LBs 70% of the time. There is no replacing Debo. But with Ish and Foye, you have two guys who could do similar things, Ish with more experience and Foye with the athleticism. We'd have to lose both Debo and Devondre for me to stress about the LBs but that's for any team I think. The Panthers lose Luke and that defense looks different. 

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6 minutes ago, vel said:

I'm perfectly fine with Ish as his backup. Remember, we play two LBs 70% of the time. There is no replacing Debo. But with Ish and Foye, you have two guys who could do similar things, Ish with more experience and Foye with the athleticism. We'd have to lose both Debo and Devondre for me to str late 70's defenses.ess about the LBs but that's for any team I think. The Panthers lose Luke and that defense looks different. 

Thanks, man. I was back in the past. Nickle is DQ's game. Thanks for the reply.

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