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Julio Jones Contract Holdout: Impact for Falcons

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The holdout that Julio Jones has been downplaying, if not outright denying, became official this week as Jones informed the Falcons he’ll skip mandatory minicamp. When Jones signed his five-year, $71.3 million deal in 2015, he became the NFL’s second highest-paid wide receiver (behind Calvin Johnson, who would retire after that year), edging out Dez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas, who had recently signed new mega deals. Since then, the landscape has changed. Bryant is unemployed, and Thomas is considered good but not great. Jones has gotten even better, but seven other receivers now have higher average salaries.

Jones is 29. This is almost certainly the highest long-term earning power he’ll ever have again. Some might not like that he’s acting on his leverage, but in the cutthroat NFL business, players and teams are conditioned to interpret a deal’s technicalities, not its spirit. And this deal’s technicalities give the Falcons recourse. They can fine Jones nearly $85,000 if he misses all three minicamp practices. Or, they can cut him and save $34.5 million of the $39.3 million he’s owed. It’s team leverage versus player leverage.

The Falcons also know that it’s unlikely Jones will sit out any regular season games. Holdouts rarely take it that far, especially when each of their game checks are just under a million bucks. But it’s not necessarily in the Falcons’ best interest to beat Jones in this staring contest. By being one of the few premium wide receivers who is not a prima donna and takes serious pride in his dirty work (including blocking), Jones is one of the NFL’s most respected players. He can lead without speaking. The rest of the locker room would take notice if management plays hardball with him. And, on the field, Atlanta would feel the impact.

 

A good barometer of superstardom is the answer to this question: How much does his absence change his offense’s/defense’s foundational approach to the game? With Jones, the answer is “almost completely.” Besides being the go-to guy, especially in crucial situations, Jones is who the passing game is built around. He often aligns on the weak side of a formation, where defenses can’t disguise their double-teams. Not only do those declared double-teams clarify Matt Ryan’s reads, they impact how Ryan and offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian approach a play. Since Jones is one of six receivers who gets doubled on almost every meaningful passing snap (the others are Odell Beckham Jr., Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, A.J. Green and DeAndre Hopkins), the Falcons can build plays with an assumption of what the defense will do. Some of those receivers who draw regular doubles do so because their offense lacks other weapons. Not Jones. Atlanta has good players around him, and those players are frequently positioned to be great because of the predictable one-on-one coverage Jones affords them.

We can debate who is the NFL’s best wide receiver. Brown is the most polished. Beckham, the most explosive. Hopkins, the most relentless. But privately around the league, Jones is the guy players and coaches talk about most. His package of size, strength, speed, quickness, hands and refinement is the most complete. Often, when coaches are teaching something to their wide receivers, they explain it in terms of, “This is how Julio does it.”

Falcons coaches have the luxury of instead just pointing and saying, “Watch Number 11.” It’s imperative the Falcons get back Number 11, but they’re not exactly swimming in money right now. They have $9.86 million in cap space and just tied up $100 million guaranteed in Ryan’s five-year deal. Of course, Ryan’s value is diminished if you remove his top target, so Jones has put general manager Thomas Dimitroff in a tough spot. But that’s the job. In 2011, Dimitroff traded two first-rounders, a second-rounder and two fourth-rounders to Cleveland to move up and secure Jones with the sixth pick. Now he must secure Jones again, this time with a new market-setting mega contract.

 

Extra Falcons Info

Falcons Planning on More Two-RB Looks

The guess here is they’ll do this 8 to 10 times a game, but they should do it 15 to 20. Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman are elite ballcarriers and top-tier receiving backs, capable of catching passes from the backfield, slot or out wide. And with a veteran QB who can make calls at the line of scrimmage in Matt Ryan, the Falcons can shift into any formation at any time, run or pass. Imagine the nightmare that presents for a defense, which must go into full reactionary mode against this. Ryan would get predictable looks almost every snap, with linebackers forced to cover in space or defensive backs forced to play the run in traffic.

 

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2 minutes ago, athell said:

#FakeNews

what now ?? if he is holding out then the narrative has to change that this is not a big deal

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Haha this is a dam mess....it’s finally coming to a head. Can’t hide it any longer. JJ wants more money but he and management have tried so hard to hide it or do it the right way...how’d that work out lol

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3 minutes ago, Atl Falcon said:

Haha this is a dam mess....it’s finally coming to a head. Can’t hide it any longer. JJ wants more money but he and management have tried so hard to hide it or do it the right way...how’d that work out lol

Bigg facts, now the team has no choice. Did more harm than good

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7 minutes ago, caponine said:

I just remembered something lol julio lied to us and fooled each and everyone of us. He looked dead in the camera and told all of the falcons fans there’s no issue i will be at minicamp in june. He told quinn that as well. I wonder how this affects everyone.

That’s not a lie. It’s a change of plans because Julio made an announcement he wasn’t going to be in minicamp. Had he not made that CLEAR announcement then it would’ve been a lie as you stated. Change of mind and lie 2 different things. 

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14 minutes ago, caponine said:

Bigg facts, now the team has no choice. Did more harm than good

I think the team has handled this perfectly.  Can't imagine what they could have done better.

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4 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

That’s not a lie. It’s a change of plans because Julio made an announcement he wasn’t going to be in minicamp. Had he not made that CLEAR announcement then it would’ve been a lie as you stated. Change of mind and lie 2 different things. 

Come on now......we can all choose to believe what we want to believe. JJ tried to pull one off because he doesn’t want to be considered a prima donna. He may get some kind of added incentive package but not a new contract. Can’t blame him for trying if he doesn’t mind all the drama and distraction....but he knows exactly what he’s doing. Shame on TO the ego....stay away from that poison. He laughed all the way to the bank averaging 18m per yr for three yrs 

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20 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

That’s not a lie. It’s a change of plans because Julio made an announcement he wasn’t going to be in minicamp. Had he not made that CLEAR announcement then it would’ve been a lie as you stated. Change of mind and lie 2 different things. 

C'mon, you cant really be serious.  You really are defending him at all costs now.  Changed his mind?  hahaha that's funny shyt.

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3 hours ago, Goober Pyle said:

 

 

The holdout that Julio Jones has been downplaying, if not outright denying, became official this week as Jones informed the Falcons he’ll skip mandatory minicamp. When Jones signed his five-year, $71.3 million deal in 2015, he became the NFL’s second highest-paid wide receiver (behind Calvin Johnson, who would retire after that year), edging out Dez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas, who had recently signed new mega deals. Since then, the landscape has changed. Bryant is unemployed, and Thomas is considered good but not great. Jones has gotten even better, but seven other receivers now have higher average salaries.

Jones is 29. This is almost certainly the highest long-term earning power he’ll ever have again. Some might not like that he’s acting on his leverage, but in the cutthroat NFL business, players and teams are conditioned to interpret a deal’s technicalities, not its spirit. And this deal’s technicalities give the Falcons recourse. They can fine Jones nearly $85,000 if he misses all three minicamp practices. Or, they can cut him and save $34.5 million of the $39.3 million he’s owed. It’s team leverage versus player leverage.

The Falcons also know that it’s unlikely Jones will sit out any regular season games. Holdouts rarely take it that far, especially when each of their game checks are just under a million bucks. But it’s not necessarily in the Falcons’ best interest to beat Jones in this staring contest. By being one of the few premium wide receivers who is not a prima donna and takes serious pride in his dirty work (including blocking), Jones is one of the NFL’s most respected players. He can lead without speaking. The rest of the locker room would take notice if management plays hardball with him. And, on the field, Atlanta would feel the impact.

 

A good barometer of superstardom is the answer to this question: How much does his absence change his offense’s/defense’s foundational approach to the game? With Jones, the answer is “almost completely.” Besides being the go-to guy, especially in crucial situations, Jones is who the passing game is built around. He often aligns on the weak side of a formation, where defenses can’t disguise their double-teams. Not only do those declared double-teams clarify Matt Ryan’s reads, they impact how Ryan and offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian approach a play. Since Jones is one of six receivers who gets doubled on almost every meaningful passing snap (the others are Odell Beckham Jr., Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, A.J. Green and DeAndre Hopkins), the Falcons can build plays with an assumption of what the defense will do. Some of those receivers who draw regular doubles do so because their offense lacks other weapons. Not Jones. Atlanta has good players around him, and those players are frequently positioned to be great because of the predictable one-on-one coverage Jones affords them.

We can debate who is the NFL’s best wide receiver. Brown is the most polished. Beckham, the most explosive. Hopkins, the most relentless. But privately around the league, Jones is the guy players and coaches talk about most. His package of size, strength, speed, quickness, hands and refinement is the most complete. Often, when coaches are teaching something to their wide receivers, they explain it in terms of, “This is how Julio does it.”

Falcons coaches have the luxury of instead just pointing and saying, “Watch Number 11.” It’s imperative the Falcons get back Number 11, but they’re not exactly swimming in money right now. They have $9.86 million in cap space and just tied up $100 million guaranteed in Ryan’s five-year deal. Of course, Ryan’s value is diminished if you remove his top target, so Jones has put general manager Thomas Dimitroff in a tough spot. But that’s the job. In 2011, Dimitroff traded two first-rounders, a second-rounder and two fourth-rounders to Cleveland to move up and secure Jones with the sixth pick. Now he must secure Jones again, this time with a new market-setting mega contract.

 

Extra Falcons Info

Falcons Planning on More Two-RB Looks

The guess here is they’ll do this 8 to 10 times a game, but they should do it 15 to 20. Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman are elite ballcarriers and top-tier receiving backs, capable of catching passes from the backfield, slot or out wide. And with a veteran QB who can make calls at the line of scrimmage in Matt Ryan, the Falcons can shift into any formation at any time, run or pass. Imagine the nightmare that presents for a defense, which must go into full reactionary mode against this. Ryan would get predictable looks almost every snap, with linebackers forced to cover in space or defensive backs forced to play the run in traffic.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/06/13/julio-jones-holdout-atlanta-falcons-contract-matt-ryan-thomas-dimitroff?utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com

This is a well written article. Falcons or AJC need to hire whoever wrote it.

I'll say it for the 28th time Elite WRs are not the key to Lombardies. Google the last ten #1WRs on Championship teams. Not many Julios. None. Randy, T.O, Julio, AB, Fitz and OBJ have zero rings.

Winning Super Bowls in the National Football League requires a solid overall team. Not an ornament. The leading receiver on the most recent Championship team was a TE that had a whopping 800 yards.

Dimi needs to take a hard look at his 2019 roster and available cap space before bending over. Make some calls. He already got good production out of him. Get a pick and a player and look like a boss. He needs to call up Billy Check again and ask him what he'd do.

Loved the FreeCole piece. I can think of 100 ways to exploit defenses with them on the field with the other pieces. Give them Julio's touches and they'll probably go off. Run and Pass.

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10 minutes ago, Peyton said:

I think the team has handled this perfectly.  Can't imagine what they could have done better.

Well - honestly it’s a big lie....guess they tried or thought they did the right thing

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4 minutes ago, Dirtybird3 said:

Just a note, almost 10 mil in cap ain't bad.. 

When we have a LT and DT in need of contracts, it's unfortunately not great. The "downside" of drafting well is that guys outplay their contracts and expect to get paid like it.

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22 minutes ago, jidady said:

When we have a LT and DT in need of contracts, it's unfortunately not great. The "downside" of drafting well is that guys outplay their contracts and expect to get paid like it.

When they are signed currently and we project to have plenty enough space next offseason to sign them; including probably having a lower cap hit from Jake while Vic and Grady get raises....the current space helps deal with the Julio issue for now.

Some lower tier casualties that aren't cornerstone players may not be kept; like TeCo depending.

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23 minutes ago, jidady said:

When we have a LT and DT in need of contracts, it's unfortunately not great. The "downside" of drafting well is that guys outplay their contracts and expect to get paid like it.

Definetly not great for sure, just after the McClain signing I saw alot of $7 mil figure 

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48 minutes ago, Clark said:

C'mon, you cant really be serious.  You really are defending him at all costs now.  Changed his mind?  hahaha that's funny shyt.

It’s not defending him at all. It what it is. If he left that open ended and Just said he’d be there then it’s a lie when he doesn’t. But EVERYBODY in business can change their mind. I’ve done it. Ppl have done it to me after they said they’d do something. Explain to me how that’s a lie when he made an announcement that he wouldn’t be in minicamp?? Explain it?? Then give me your definition of a lie?? You mean to tell me nobody has EVER told you one thing then called and said something different?! Explain how it’s a lie??  

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1 hour ago, Atl Falcon said:

Come on now......we can all choose to believe what we want to believe. JJ tried to pull one off because he doesn’t want to be considered a prima donna. He may get some kind of added incentive package but not a new contract. Can’t blame him for trying if he doesn’t mind all the drama and distraction....but he knows exactly what he’s doing. Shame on TO the ego....stay away from that poison. He laughed all the way to the bank averaging 18m per yr for three yrs 

Still doesn’t make it a lie. How many of you work in a business where cameras and microphones are constantly in your face?? I do. And I understand how this type of business works. You don’t want the world to hear you’re not gonna be in minicamp unofficially on TM f*ckin Z. That’s not good d@mn business. Even if he wasn’t going to attend. He handled it the best way he could’ve to not escalate a situation. Look if none of you guys are in the entertainment business you’re not gonna understand where I’m coming from and where Julio was coming from. TMZ IS NOT THE PLACE TO HANDLE BUSINESS OR MAKE AN IMPORTANT BUSINESS ANNOUNCEMENT!!! Period!! IF you don’t get that you never will because you’ve never been there. It also makes the negotiations harder because it would’ve caught the team off guard. 

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14 minutes ago, Dirtybird3 said:

Definetly not great for sure, just after the McClain signing I saw alot of $7 mil figure 

Right, it was better than we were all braced for...and it's a really good situation to have that so many Falcons have outplayed their contracts. It's far superior to paying bad players too much aka the Tampa Bay Bucs way.

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1 hour ago, caponine said:

Bigg facts, now the team has no choice. Did more harm than good

They have a choice, fine his *** till he comes to play for the team who's paying him.

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