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Julio wants more money...

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CONTRACT TERMS:5 yr(s) / $71,256,045 SIGNING BONUS$12,000,000 AVERAGE SALARY$14,251,209 GTD AT SIGN:$35,500,000 TOTAL GTD:$47,000,000 FREE AGENT:2021 / UFA
  BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS  
YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH  
2015 Contract details by year 26 $2,500,000 $2,400,000 $7,500,000 $12,400,000 $35,500,000 $22,010,829($22,010,829)  
2016 Contract details by year 27 $9,500,000 $2,400,000 $4,000,000 $15,900,000 $34,600,000 $13,500,000($35,510,829)  
2017 Contract details by year 28 $11,500,000 $2,400,000 - $13,900,000 $18,700,000 $11,500,000($47,010,829)  

POTENTIAL OUT: 2018, 3 YR, $47,010,829; $4,800,000 DEAD CAP

2018 Contract details by year 29 $10,500,000 $2,400,000 - $12,900,000 $4,800,000 $10,500,000($57,510,829)  
2019 Contract details by year 30 $12,500,000 $2,400,000 - $14,900,000 $2,400,000 $12,500,000($70,010,829)  
2020 Contract details by year 31 $11,426,000 - - $11,426,000 - $11,426,000($81,436,829)  
2021 Free Agent Year 32 UFA  
Contract Notes:
  • $47M in total possible full guarantees
  • $35.5M initially guaranteed (signing bonus + 2015 base salary + 2016 base salary + 2015 roster bonus, + 2016 roster bonus)
  • $11.5M 2017 salary becomes fully guaranteed on 3/11/16
  • 2015 Roster Bonus: $7.5M
  • 2016 Roster Bonus: $4M (due 3/11/16)
 
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If Antonio Brown was in his situation and asked for more money, it would be well earned. Depending on how much he’s asking I can’t say Julio has earned much of a pay raise. That’s just me. I’m sure the complete bias group will oppose but hey, my opinion doesn’t mean ****. If it opens up cap space for next year then that makes a difference 

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Just now, ya_boi_j said:

If Antonio Brown was in his situation and asked for more money, it would be well earned. Depending on how much he’s asking I can’t say Julio has earned much of a pay raise. That’s just me. I’m sure the complete bias group will oppose but hey, my opinion doesn’t mean ****. If it opens up cap space for next year then that makes a difference 

Agree. He has been hurt and did not live up to his potential last year. If he had a career year last year, might be a different story. 

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Just now, ya_boi_j said:

If Antonio Brown was in his situation and asked for more money, it would be well earned. Depending on how much he’s asking I can’t say Julio has earned much of a pay raise. That’s just me. I’m sure the complete bias group will oppose but hey, my opinion doesn’t mean ****. If it opens up cap space for next year then that makes a difference 

Brown actually DID demand a new contract a few years ago and the Steelers didn't really budge. He showed up at training camp anyways and didn't end up holding out.

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2 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said:

If Antonio Brown was in his situation and asked for more money, it would be well earned. Depending on how much he’s asking I can’t say Julio has earned much of a pay raise. That’s just me. I’m sure the complete bias group will oppose but hey, my opinion doesn’t mean ****. If it opens up cap space for next year then that makes a difference 

Shooot I agree. AB gets touchdowns and plays +90% of the snaps. Julio gets yards sparingly and limps off on 3rd downs.

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3 minutes ago, The Great American said:

First of all, professional athletes are overpaid as it is.  BUT , Jones is a generational talent and he deserves to be paid like it.  

 

 

...And I think he is.

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1 minute ago, The Great American said:

First of all, professional athletes are overpaid as it is.  BUT , Jones is a generational talent and he deserves to be paid like it.  

 

 

He got paid the market value of a top WR when he singed his contract, each new deal is always bigger. Positional value means more than how good he is relative to other WRs

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Just now, Ergo Proxy said:

 I want to hear more information before drawing conclusions, but this would be unfortunate and it may hurt Atlanta's plans for re-signing it's future talent. 

Not if they stand firm. At this point, Julio doesn't really have leverage. He's under contract for 3 more seasons. The Falcons have a very talented roster. They can send a message to Julio that they aren't letting him get in the way of their plans to keep their core in tact. If he wants out, then he wants out.

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2 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said:

 I want to hear more information before drawing conclusions, but this would be unfortunate and it may hurt Atlanta's plans for re-signing it's future talent. 

How so?

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Dam. I mean lesser guys are making more than him now but that’s the way it goes with all contracts with the cap rising. Ideally you don’t update the contract when you pay a more than fair price at the time of signing 

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2 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said:

Brown actually DID demand a new contract a few years ago and the Steelers didn't really budge. He showed up at training camp anyways and didn't end up holding out.

But in the end it was well earned. If Julio holds out, I wonder if he will get the diva treatment that people love to tag other players with 

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Signed a 5yr $71mm deal in 2015.....

$12mm signing bonus

$7.5mm roster bonus in 2015

$4.0mm roster bonus in 2016

So far has collected about $46mm through the first three years in cash - which averages $15.3mm/yr if you averaged it out.   Julio doesn't like it because he is slated to make $10.5mm salary this year,  $12.5 in 2019 and  $11.4 in 2020....

slated to make less so he doesn't like the deal anymore.  I get it....but you signed it.  Heading into his Age 29, 30, and 31 years when we might see a decline.

Contract was fair at time of signing, and he is maybe slightly underpaid for 2018 but 2019/2020 could be overpaid or underpaid.

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Obviously i dont know him personally but this seems so dramatic for julio. From taking down falcons info off his instagram to saying hes missing OTAs until he gets a contract update.  This couldnt come at a worse time. 

Come on julio.   Who's in his ear? T.O.?

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Just now, ya_boi_j said:

But in the end it was well earned. If Julio holds out, I wonder if he will get the diva treatment that people love to tag other players with 

Very possible. Especially since he's a receiver.

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Idk what to make of it..I want to see this develop more the only thing that kinda irks me right now is he won' be at Otas.any time spent together getting the timing and rhythm back on offense is paramount.but the money situation I'll wait and see.

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2 minutes ago, Dirtybird56 said:

Dam. I mean lesser guys are making more than him now but that’s the way it goes with all contracts with the cap rising. Ideally you don’t update the contract when you pay a more than fair price at the time of signing 

Wouldn’t say lesser by any means. What you have is younger guys on the rise making more money. 

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