RING OF HONOR Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2018/4/17/17245202/the-falcons-should-absolutely-be-monitoring-malik-mcdowells-status If released would you like to take a chance..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I didn't even want him coming out of college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, hjerry said: I didn't even want him coming out of college. I remember people saying he had unquestionable talent...i didn't really follow him to know enough about him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 So Rasheed hageman but with a severe injury from an atv accident? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Don’t see the harm in doing it tbh. Now of course if you don’t think or never thought he was a good player to begin with, then that’s one thing. This is pure low risk, high reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: So Rasheed hageman but with a severe injury from an atv accident? No thanks. I think he was a bit more talented than Hageman...and I dont think he ever took a snap...so no one knows what he can be... But I see your point on the accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 He won't cost a lot and it will be like an additional draft pick or UDFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Knight of God said: He won't cost a lot and it will be like an additional draft pick or UDFA As long as it's only a medical clearance type thing I'm all for it. Love the additions for training camp today. Good barometer to contrast those guys pre-draft to the prospects scouted. If there isn't a your guy pick; whether by moving up or staying put/down, I doubt we reach on value for DL. Seems Quinn, Bryant, and the new Seattle hire that knew DQ are going "all in" in grooming DL. Sort of the idea we had for RG last year but I actually like this approach better as long as we secure enough actual talent able to be coached into roles right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, Ergo Proxy said: As long as it's only a medical clearance type thing I'm all for it. Love the additions for training camp today. Good barometer to contrast those guys pre-draft to the prospects scouted. If there isn't a your guy pick; whether by moving up or staying put/down, I doubt we reach on value for DL. Seems Quinn, Bryant, and the new Seattle hire that knew DQ are going "all in" in grooming DL. Sort of the idea we had for RG last year but I actually like this approach better as long as we secure enough actual talent able to be coached into roles right away. I would take the risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 The guy was a first round pick last year, played ZERO snaps, and the team that drafted him that needs all the help it can get on the defense is giving up on him. That last part especially should tell you everything you need to no about this kid. He's a wasted roster spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: The guy was a first round pick last year, played ZERO snaps, and the team that drafted him that needs all the help it can get on the defense is giving up on him. That last part especially should tell you everything you need to no about this kid. He's a wasted roster spot They are starting over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: The guy was a first round pick last year, played ZERO snaps, and the team that drafted him that needs all the help it can get on the defense is giving up on him. That last part especially should tell you everything you need to no about this kid. He's a wasted roster spot Hes being released because the doctors in Seattle won't medically clear him. It isnt a talent and/or personality issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 He’s still a first round pick from last year and the Seahawks are cutting bait on him. When a team does that it’s serious buyer beware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: He’s still a first round pick from last year and the Seahawks are cutting bait on him. When a team does that it’s serious buyer beware. What would be the difference between him and say Jared Crick, or Billy Winn? The price won't be high at all. Probably around the same price at one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Bobby.Digital said: Hes being released because the doctors in Seattle won't medically clear him. It isnt a talent and/or personality issue. I'm not sure how that's supposed to be better. Other issues might be able to be coached, but if they're releasing a second round pick after a year for medical issues, that sounds more like he's not even going to be physically able to play the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 He was supposedly a top 5 talent but ran hot and cold and had questionable work ethic if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUju2111 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: The guy was a first round pick last year, played ZERO snaps, and the team that drafted him that needs all the help it can get on the defense is giving up on him. That last part especially should tell you everything you need to no about this kid. He's a wasted roster spot 2nd rd pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUju2111 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: He’s still a first round pick from last year and the Seahawks are cutting bait on him. When a team does that it’s serious buyer beware. 2nd rd pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ball N M.J.C. Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappywhite Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 With concussions issues , I'd say no . Dude should retire , and pursue what he studied in College, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, 1989Fan said: He was supposedly a top 5 talent but ran hot and cold and had questionable work ethic if I remember correctly. What?? Dude didn't even play?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 STRENGTHS Slippery and long. Combination of arm length and flexible torso allow him to slither into gaps and create disruptions for blockers. Freaky combination of size and athleticism. Can overwhelm blockers with pure strength and explosiveness when his feet are right. Strong enough in lower half to play through contact and cause stress in the pocket. Has tremendous amount of untapped potential waiting to be unlocked. Quick, strong hands in pass rush. Able to attack the edge with club-and-swim pet move. Can crank up a pocket-caving bull rush. Can redirect his weight and maintain pursuit of scrambling mobile quarterbacks. Long frame and play speed can close out perimeter runs and foil them before corner is turned. Elite playmaking radius. Explosive lateral movement and quickness. Can bound from one gap to the next in Sparty's slanting defensive front. Will be extremely difficult to cross face as he learns the position. Has experience up and down the defensive line. WEAKNESSES Footwork and technique are a mess. Plays with inconsistent base width and overall balance. Struggles to keep feet clean and ends up on the ground. Lines up in narrow, three-point stance from interior and struggles to fight back against down blocks and double teams. Can be washed out of his gap too often. High center of gravity made interior work a challenge at times. Can bend, but lets high pad level get the best of him. Doesn't consistently utilize his length with first hands. Has to become better at controlling the point of attack with his natural attributes. Needs to punch and control rather than leaning on blockers. Production doesn't match up with the traits and the talent. Scouts concerned about work ethic and leadership. SOURCES TELL US "He has a chance to be a dominant player in our league. I mean dominant. It hasn't turned on for him all the way yet but if it does, he could be like Mario Williams. He's just a little lazy and I worry about whether he is going to be a self-starter." -- NFC North area scout NFL COMPARISON Ezekiel Ansah BOTTOM LINE Has similar physical traits and abilities of Arik Armstead and DeForest Buckner, but may not share their football character. McDowell lacked production along the interior and could benefit from a move to a defensive end spot in a 4-3 or 3-4 front. McDowell is raw, but when he flashes, it can be blinding. McDowell is an explosive, ascending prospect with All-Pro potential if he grows into his body and takes the necessary coaching. He was a boom or bust prospect coming out of college, and it would seem as though complications from the ATV accident may have sealed his fate as a bust. He was never actually very productive, so everything positive about him in this profile was relating to his potential if he was willing to allow himself to be coachable. It was all about what he could potentially be, not what he actually is. Those things in bold are huge knocks that sometimes cannot be fixed because a player just doesn't have the drive to get better. That seems like it could've been a huge factor in all of this as well. Personally, I would pass on a guy with potentially career altering injuries & a dire need to be coached up, yet a possible unwillingness to listen or lead by example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2000 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I just figure he is done if the Seahawks are releasing him. They are rebuilding their D, and would want their 21 yr old top pick from last year in the fold. His condition has been pretty hush hush it seems, we don't know where he is at mentally/physically. Most people doubt he is ever playing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runshoot Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Dude has a facial injury that may prevent him from ever playing football again. Top it off, he was arrested in Atlanta for disorderly conduct. Sound like a guy we bring in? Not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerFalcon8710 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Dude couldnt play football for a year and still cant get cleared from an atv accident.. clearly something is wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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