vel Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The more I've thought about the draft and processed DQ's words and his actions, I think they trade up with SEA to #18, take Bryan there and then take BJ Hill at #58. A DL of Takk, Grady, Bryan, Vic on third down would be heIl on wheels. A ton of speed and power at all four spots on the money down. But BJ Hill still gives you that steady, solid DT who will do the dirty work vs those more physical teams we have issues with. That DL would be Takk, Grady, Hill, Bryan. Long term, those are two very good DLs. Bryan makes too much sense to ATL for it to not happen. It will take a trade up, but I don't think they are opposed to it. TD and DQ have both said multiple times the roster has no holes. The last time that was said, we moved up for Julio. I don't think we do a trade like that, but to sacrifice a third to solidify the DL DQ wants, which is his passion and the basis of this DL, I don't think they hesitate. Bryan isn't making it to #26. We all know that. The Dallas has the hots for him. Detroit could take him too. But if that's the man DQ and TD have their eye on, I would not be surprised if they don't make that move. I also believe this is why they didn't stretch to get Bennett. They didn't have a fourth and if they have an agreement in place with SEA to trade up with their third, same thing that was in place pre-draft last year, then having no third and no fourth would have sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shock Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) Trading up for Bryan would be beyond moronic. And if we did that I seriously doubt we’d be able to keep pick 58. We can get a Day 1 impact starter at 26. We don’t need to keep losing picks to trades. Edited April 10, 2018 by shock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I would avoid trading but I won’t be upset if they traded up 6-7 spots to pick Payne or Bryan and double dip on DT in second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Not gonna lie, I love draft day trades, the stranger the better. "We have a trade: the Atlanta Falcons have traded their 2nd round pick to the Houston Oilers for a pan of dry rub BBQ and a BJ to be named later." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Before everybody jumps on the "Trading up is stupid" train, two things: 1. This is just a wild guess. I'm not saying I want this to happen. 2. We don't have any say in them trading up. If it's already decided, like last year, it's already decided. TD has rarely traded down (once?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, shock said: Trading up for Bryan would be beyond moronic. And if we did that I seriously doubt we’d be able to keep pick 58. We can get a Day 1 impact starter at 26. We don’t need to keep losing picks to trades. Agreed....no way we trading up without giving up that 2nd rd pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, RING OF HONOR said: Agreed....no way we trading up without giving up that 2nd rd pick I disagree. Given it would be Seattle and only 8 spots, a third is reasonable. They'd be short 60 points on the draft chart but we overpaid 20 points last year. A second would be a massive overpay for an 8 spot jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, vel said: I disagree. Given it would be Seattle and only 8 spots, a third is reasonable. They'd be short 60 points on the draft chart but we overpaid 20 points last year. A second would be a massive overpay for an 8 spot jump. Agreed. I covered this in previous Deja Vu mock. It would cost more than just the 3rd rd pick though- cost would be 3rd rounder and 2014 4th rounder. Not getting 60 points for FREE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, vel said: Before everybody jumps on the "Trading up is stupid" train, two things: 1. This is just a wild guess. I'm not saying I want this to happen. 2. We don't have any say in them trading up. If it's already decided, like last year, it's already decided. TD has rarely traded down (once?) What drives me crazy was we traded down 2 spots in 2016 in the second round, still got the guy they wanted (Deion Jones) and got another draft pick. Those deals don't just come out of nowhere but trading down, if you can find a partner, is almost always a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Agreed. I covered this in previous Deja Vu mock. It would cost more than just the 3rd rd pick though- cost would be 3rd rounder and 2014 4th rounder. Not getting 60 points for FREE. So, Devonta Freeman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, vel said: The more I've thought about the draft and processed DQ's words and his actions, I think they trade up with SEA to #18, take Bryan there and then take BJ Hill at #58. A DL of Takk, Grady, Bryan, Vic on third down would be heIl on wheels. A ton of speed and power at all four spots on the money down. But BJ Hill still gives you that steady, solid DT who will do the dirty work vs those more physical teams we have issues with. That DL would be Takk, Grady, Hill, Bryan. Long term, those are two very good DLs. Bryan makes too much sense to ATL for it to not happen. It will take a trade up, but I don't think they are opposed to it. TD and DQ have both said multiple times the roster has no holes. The last time that was said, we moved up for Julio. I don't think we do a trade like that, but to sacrifice a third to solidify the DL DQ wants, which is his passion and the basis of this DL, I don't think they hesitate. Bryan isn't making it to #26. We all know that. The Dallas has the hots for him. Detroit could take him too. But if that's the man DQ and TD have their eye on, I would not be surprised if they don't make that move. I also believe this is why they didn't stretch to get Bennett. They didn't have a fourth and if they have an agreement in place with SEA to trade up with their third, same thing that was in place pre-draft last year, then having no third and no fourth would have sucked. Wouldn’t surprise me at all, it’s TD’s m.o. to trade up for a need. If not Bryan, it might be for Payne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDeion Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I don’t like trading up, but I’d love Bryan and Hill together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vandy said: Wouldn’t surprise me at all, it’s TD’s m.o. to trade up for a need. If not Bryan, it might be for Payne. Hmmmmm....sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, shock said: Trading up for Bryan would be beyond moronic. And if we did that I seriously doubt we’d be able to keep pick 58. We can get a Day 1 impact starter at 26. We don’t need to keep losing picks to trades. You could possibly do it for Vea or Bryan as you are aloud to trade comp picks now that's how I'd be looking at it for a trade up.I'd be doing a 1 swap and a 3 this year and a 3 next year to go up possibly in the late teens. Trade out of the 2nd to try and recoup something later in the draft to get Hill in the early third. Or do we do a player trade and a pick to go up,not sure what the FO has on there minds but I think at this point in time anythings on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@ck Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Trade teco , swap firsts, replace teco with 3rd rounder ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, vel said: The more I've thought about the draft and processed DQ's words and his actions, I think they trade up with SEA to #18, take Bryan there and then take BJ Hill at #58. A DL of Takk, Grady, Bryan, Vic on third down would be heIl on wheels. A ton of speed and power at all four spots on the money down. But BJ Hill still gives you that steady, solid DT who will do the dirty work vs those more physical teams we have issues with. That DL would be Takk, Grady, Hill, Bryan. Long term, those are two very good DLs. Bryan makes too much sense to ATL for it to not happen. It will take a trade up, but I don't think they are opposed to it. TD and DQ have both said multiple times the roster has no holes. The last time that was said, we moved up for Julio. I don't think we do a trade like that, but to sacrifice a third to solidify the DL DQ wants, which is his passion and the basis of this DL, I don't think they hesitate. Bryan isn't making it to #26. We all know that. The Dallas has the hots for him. Detroit could take him too. But if that's the man DQ and TD have their eye on, I would not be surprised if they don't make that move. I also believe this is why they didn't stretch to get Bennett. They didn't have a fourth and if they have an agreement in place with SEA to trade up with their third, same thing that was in place pre-draft last year, then having no third and no fourth would have sucked. I've heard the same thing and the more I think of it, the more I hope it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 If we trade up, it better not be for Taven Bryan. Vita Vea, of course. Taven Bryan? H*ll no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 6 hours ago, vel said: I disagree. Given it would be Seattle and only 8 spots, a third is reasonable. They'd be short 60 points on the draft chart but we overpaid 20 points last year. A second would be a massive overpay for an 8 spot jump. Cool....i didn't know that....thanks for the info... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Not gonna need to go to 18 for Bryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celtiksage Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 10 hours ago, g-dawg said: Agreed. I covered this in previous Deja Vu mock. It would cost more than just the 3rd rd pick though- cost would be 3rd rounder and 2014 4th rounder. Not getting 60 points for FREE. I agree we are trading up. Seattle has one pick before round 5 and they will be desperate to get more picks. It probably will cost us our 3rd and a 4th or just our 2nd (but then no Hill). I would be much more agreeable to next year's 4th and maybe get one of those 5th rounders back from Seattle. They're stacked with 5th round picks and maybe they will be so hard up for picks that they take a 3rd only or 3rd and next year's 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 <whispers> the draft chart is stupid and not used uniformly throughout the league <whispers> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: <whispers> the draft chart is stupid and not used uniformly throughout the league <whispers> To me, it's usually more about supply and demand than anything else.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Much rather they trade back and add picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: Much rather they trade back and add picks. Why you might miss a player you really covert. Trade back has a place to if you need to cover alot of holes. I don't see it with us I see one gaping one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando C. Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I don't think we need to trade up... we can get quality DT's from round 2 to 4, so take BPA in 1st round.. even if its Wynn ( you get a OG for the next 5 years) .. we can go B.J. Hill and Nathan Shepherd in rounds 2 and 3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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