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I love Vic and have always been a fan but he is looking more and more like a permanent nickel pass rush specialist than a 3-down guy like Clowney.  I think the market will see him as that and he will not be given top money for that alone.  He also needs to up his game.  2016 he had the stats but we all know a lot of that came from challenged RTs and he was largely invisible in big games.  2017 showed no improvement in pass rush and I was really shocked at how much he struggled at SAM given his ridiculous athleticism.  I suspect we may let him test the market if he doesn't make some solid strides.

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I kind of doubt Beasley will be resigned after his option year.  Hard choices are going to have to be made with all the deals coming up, and i'll think he'll be one that ends up moving on to a team with more money to spend. 

But that still gives him two more years in Atlanta.

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2 minutes ago, Peyton said:

I kind of doubt Beasley will be resigned after his option year.  Hard choices are going to have to be made with all the deals coming up, and i'll think he'll be one that ends up moving on to a team with more money to spend. 

But that still gives him two more years in Atlanta.

If he gets back to his 2016 level, we'd be idiots to let him leave. You just don't let guys who can get 15+ sacks leave. 

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4 minutes ago, Peyton said:

I kind of doubt Beasley will be resigned after his option year.  Hard choices are going to have to be made with all the deals coming up, and i'll think he'll be one that ends up moving on to a team with more money to spend. 

But that still gives him two more years in Atlanta.

Certainly possible but that would be a pretty big mistake. 

Don't let athletic young pass rushers walk. 

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11 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

Wait a minute.....I have been told for years that Clowney was a BUST.   How can this be?

He's been fine. Not a bust but far from a homerun so far. 

Matthews has been a better player through the course of their career. 

EDIT TO ADD: That doesnt mean Clowney isnt on an upward trajectory. 

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2 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said:

It’s the market for a top 5 edge rusher.  People saying Vic won’t get over $10,000,000 per are dreaming.  Grady will get 8-10 mill per as well.  It’s why I’d be cautious about giving Matthews the 12-15 his agent will surely demand

 To me, Vic is lower on the totem pole for players on the DEF that will get paid by the Falcons. 

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2 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said:

It’s the market for a top 5 edge rusher.  People saying Vic won’t get over $10,000,000 per are dreaming.  Grady will get 8-10 mill per as well.  It’s why I’d be cautious about giving Matthews the 12-15 his agent will surely demand

Grady and Matthews are more important than Beasley

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1 hour ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said:

No way Clowney gets $18m/yr worth of real guarantees over 5 years. 

 

 

He will come close to these guys:

Player Total 
Value
Avg./Year
Ezekiel Ansah $17,143,000 $17,143,000
Demarcus Lawrence $17,143,000 $17,143,000
Olivier Vernon $85,000,000 $17,000,000
Jason Pierre-Paul $62,000,000 $15,000,000
Calais Campbell $60,000,000 $15,000,000
Everson Griffen $58,000,000 $14,500,000
Robert Quinn $57,014,895 $14,253,724
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53 minutes ago, Peyton said:

I kind of doubt Beasley will be resigned after his option year.  Hard choices are going to have to be made with all the deals coming up, and i'll think he'll be one that ends up moving on to a team with more money to spend. 

But that still gives him two more years in Atlanta.

i dont see that happening if he gets back to his 10+ sack a year .. I think the 5 guys we build this D around is Grady, Beasley, Takk, Jones and Neal .....

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3 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said:

It’s the market for a top 5 edge rusher.  People saying Vic won’t get over $10,000,000 per are dreaming.  Grady will get 8-10 mill per as well.  It’s why I’d be cautious about giving Matthews the 12-15 his agent will surely demand

Matthews>Vic and it’s not even a question 

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1 hour ago, Peyton said:

I kind of doubt Beasley will be resigned after his option year.  Hard choices are going to have to be made with all the deals coming up, and i'll think he'll be one that ends up moving on to a team with more money to spend. 

But that still gives him two more years in Atlanta.

We will know soon. If he receives the 5th year option (promise) then he will more than likely be re-signed.

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