Vandy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bobby.Digital said: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol Sorry Bobby, I completely misread your post and went into ‘knucklehead mode’ on you... which is what I get when I post in a hurry. I was actually gonna send you the exact same article!!! We agree, falcons were a Top 10 OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eazy123 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Levitres injury exposed a lack of depth. I think we need to invest into our offensive line. I don’t think anyone would disagree we need more guys in the middle who can both move and run our zone schemes as well as have the strength to get some push in short yardage. It’s time to make a major investment (FA & Draft) to give the few weapons we currently have more opportunities to flourish. The road back to the Super Bowl will likely go through some monster D lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDirtyWordII Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, falconidae said: Not with Levitre only signed for a year and Mack getting up in years- want the replacements for both on the team now, learning the system and getting stronger. Why? The idea for a Day 1/2 pick is to come in and compete right away? Fact is - we drafted Sean Harlow in the 4th round with that thought in mind. In 2018, we have one spot in flux on the OL. As for Mack, I can see him now being year to year, but he was 2nd team All-Pro inn 2017. Unless his performance falls off a cliff and he decides to return (not retire) he's the starting C on the 2019 Falcons. If we need an immediate replacement for Levitre in 2019, then you can look at 1st/2nd round then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 30 minutes ago, g-dawg said: the only time anyone ever cites PFF - is when it fits the agenda they are trying to sell. Personally, I would NEVER (ever) do such a thing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, TheDirtyWordII said: Why? The idea for a Day 1/2 pick is to come in and compete right away? Fact is - we drafted Sean Harlow in the 4th round with that thought in mind. In 2018, we have one spot in flux on the OL. As for Mack, I can see him now being year to year, but he was 2nd team All-Pro inn 2017. Unless his performance falls off a cliff and he decides to return (not retire) he's the starting C on the 2019 Falcons. If we need an immediate replacement for Levitre in 2019, then you can look at 1st/2nd round then. Don't care about what a 1st or 2nd round pick is supposed to do. Last two playoff games the falcons lost, they lost because they didn't have quality OLine depth.I want starter quality players backing up the Oline. I also want the replacements for LeVitre and Mack to have time in the system before they start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, falconidae said: Don't care about what a 1st or 2nd round pick is supposed to do. Last two playoff games the falcons lost, they lost because they didn't have quality OLine depth.I want starter quality players backing up the Oline. I also want the replacements for LeVitre and Mack to have time in the system before they start. SMH... The oline isn't plug and play (why do you think they never sub out?) The oline plays as a unit they all learn each other and get use to playing with each other. They learn weaknesses and strengths so they know who needs help and when. You don't just throw someone in and expect it to be hunky Dorie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 the OL as a unit played at an above average clip, but Schweitzer was a clear cut weak point and we have no depth whatsoever. Those are the issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Vandy said: Sorry Bobby, I completely misread your post and went into ‘knucklehead mode’ on you... which is what I get when I post in a hurry. I was actually gonna send you the exact same article!!! We agree, falcons were a Top 10 OL Haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Also I don't think drafting a Wynn is giving up on Wes and Harlow... Remember... Levitre is on the last year of his deal .. Give those guys abother year under plan D .. Get a little stronger .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfansince66 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Summerhill said: We all remember the days when we had guys like Quinn Ojinnaka, right? Sure do and I can remember when we had a really good one with Van Note, R.C. Thielman, Warren Bryant and Mike Kenn! (Sure wished we could use those guys again in their prime!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Knight of God said: I really hope we get a FA for the role. In the draft I’d love to get Tyrell Crosby. Schraeder is 29 but he’s peaked and I predict a decline. He’s also a $7.75m cap hit in 2019. Sign a decent vet, and let him and Crosby compete for G. Cut schraeder the next year, insert Crosby at RT, and if Harlow or Wes has progressed move one of them into the vacant G spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, MSalmon said: In the draft I’d love to get Tyrell Crosby. Schraeder is 29 but he’s peaked and I predict a decline. He’s also a $7.75m cap hit in 2019. Sign a decent vet, and let him and Crosby compete for G. Cut schraeder the next year, insert Crosby at RT, and if Harlow or Wes has progressed move one of them into the vacant G spot The more I look at it, outside of Nelson the only guys I like at all are Hernandez and Braden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezy01212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I feel that MR2 made the line look better than it was last year. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfansince66 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Knight of God said: The more I look at it, outside of Nelson the only guys I like at all are Hernandez and Braden. I think if we can score Price in the second, that would be a nice pull as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, falconfansince66 said: I think if we can score Price in the second, that would be a nice pull as well. I'm not against it, just not for it. I just don't like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'm just loving how Wes doesn't have the capability to improve in folks eyes. I remember last season all we had to do was get rid of Chester and the line would be blah blah blah. now all of a sudden Chester was the man and Wes messed it up lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDirtyWordII Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, falconidae said: Don't care about what a 1st or 2nd round pick is supposed to do. Last two playoff games the falcons lost, they lost because they didn't have quality OLine depth.I want starter quality players backing up the Oline. I also want the replacements for LeVitre and Mack to have time in the system before they start. So we’re going to draft a 2018 back-up on the OL in the 1st/2nd Round while we start Justin Hardy at WR3 and (?) next to Jarrett? OK...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheDirtyWordII said: So we’re going to draft a 2018 back-up on the OL in the 1st/2nd Round while we start Justin Hardy at WR3 and (?) next to Jarrett? OK...? DL is a much bigger gap than either OL or WR is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, g-dawg said: the only time anyone ever cites PFF - is when it fits the agenda they are trying to sell. The same can be said for using blanket statements to discredit that narrative. Edited March 13, 2018 by Falconsin2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 OL isn't a problem spot. People are taking games vs LA and PHI and extrapolating it into the 18 games played. Every single interior OL had issues blocking Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox. Do I want them to upgrade the RG spot? Yea. I think Josh Kline would be a great signing that should be affordable and short enough to let Harlow and Schweitzer develop. Would I be mad if they rolled with Wes again? Nope. Do I think they can draft a RG? Yes. Jake, Andy, Mack, and Schraeder, assuming he bounces back, are strong enough to make up any slack at RG. Everybody is complaining about Wes, but he wasn't much worse than Chester was. Chester would have been abused just as bad by Donald and was abused by McCoy and Fletcher in 2016 routinely. We still balled out. Go get some more weapons for Matt and Sark to exploit defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, raysnill1 said: I'm just loving how Wes doesn't have the capability to improve in folks eyes. I remember last season all we had to do was get rid of Chester and the line would be blah blah blah. now all of a sudden Chester was the man and Wes messed it up lol. We was a liability the first 10 games but showed nice improvement the last 2 months of the year. He was a slightly below average starting Guard by the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDeion Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, weezy01212 said: I feel that MR2 made the line look better than it was last year. IMO This. He got the ball out very quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, TheDirtyWordII said: So we’re going to draft a 2018 back-up on the OL in the 1st/2nd Round while we start Justin Hardy at WR3 and (?) next to Jarrett? OK...? No, we're going to draft an Olineman to compete for the starting job this year, provide starter quality depth if he doesn't win the job this year and then, have a year in the NFL and a year in the system under his belt when he replaces Levitre next year. Don't see where I said draft only Olinemen or that they can't sign a DT in FA. Use the first pick on Oline, second on Dline, or reverse it. Sign a FA DT and a FA TE/WR. Falcon lost the super bowl because they had no depth on the Oline, lost the last game last year because they had no depth on the Oline. I think that's worth spending a 1st or 2nd round pick on to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, falconidae said: No, we're going to draft an Olineman to compete for the starting job this year, provide starter quality depth if he doesn't win the job this year and then, have a year in the NFL and a year in the system under his belt when he replaces Levitre next year. Don't see where I said draft only Olinemen or that they can't sign a DT in FA. Use the first pick on Oline, second on Dline, or reverse it. Sign a FA DT and a FA TE/WR. Falcon lost the super bowl because they had no depth on the Oline, lost the last game last year because they had no depth on the Oline. I think that's worth spending a 1st or 2nd round pick on to fix. I hear ya man, I understand your main point.... but just to be clear.... falcons lost SB because both their OC and their HC lost their grip in 4th qtr of that game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Vandy said: I hear ya man, I understand your main point.... but just to be clear.... falcons lost SB because both their OC and their HC lost their grip in 4th qtr of that game... Yeah, you're right, That's an exaggeration,should have said, "in part, because of lack of Oline depth" I do think though that , if the Oline had stayed healthy, Falcons win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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