TheFatboi Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jerz said: Other than Grady who do we have on contract to play DT next season? Sure we don't have many "holes" but we can certainly get better at a good number of positions. Paying good defensive talent on your team is not going to close your window if you have players that are ready to step in to the place that may have been left by someone getting paid elsewhere. NE goes and gets what they need at the right price. I'm not opposed to getting Bennett but not for a 3rd rounder. Thats why their SB window has been open since 2001. The Eagles paid their young defensive talent and their SB window opened up as soon as they got a franchise QB so hmm what does that say to you? That’s my point I’ve been telling y’all since the Julio trade. We didn’t draft well under smith. And again, we’ll draft a DT early IF we don’t get a DT in FA. So it’s a temporary hole. I saw the eagles coming 3 years ago just like I saw the Seahawks coming. What’s your point? You’re literally saying what I’ve bwen saying forever. Build thru the draft and Round out the edges with FA. We’ve had a franchise qb since 2008. I saw the eagles when they beat us last year lol. This ain’t rocket science man. Bennett for a 3rd is not a bad price for the type of team we have. Again, a team with no real holes. A DT will get drafted and we STILL may get one in FA. A 3rd just doesn’t hurt this team. You get better by drafting well. We draft well. Why? Because Quinn gets scheme specific talent. Just like Walsh. Just like Tuna. Just like Belichik. Just like Lombardi. How’s many picks do we have this year? All seven?? Losing a third doesn’t hurt one bit. 1 DT 2 OG 3 Bennett 4 DT/LB 5 WR/TE 6 CB 7 FB And that’s without FA and after draft FA’s which will make the draft picture even more clear. And who’s to say Rubin won’t come back? Bennett also plays inside next to Grady when/if needed. I def understand your point but it only applies to a team that’s not as well built as us we want to win next year and that’s the mindset. I’m not saying we have to get Bennett but for a third id do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Vandy said: I hear you jerz, you make an excellent point. As long as matt stays healthy, we should stay in the hunt for next 5 Years. But with that being said, we’re not new england, nobody is. Matt’s not Brady, and quinn’s Not Belichick. Everyone thought Seattle was a mini-dynasty, and look what happened to them. We have a Top 5 NFL roster today, and we need to go for it now. We can be NE tho bro. Or something like it. Which is build thru the draft which we have. Bill Walsh was belichik before belichik. These guys understand team building and I think Quinn does as well. It’s all about the draft. Which is why I argue every year with guys that want every FA that hits the market and I say we don’t need them. Which is why Bennett for a 3rd is something I’d do BECAUSE we’re built so well right now and will be for the next 5 years or so. I just don’t think this thing is as hard as ppl make it seem. Especially when you draft scheme specific players. Like belichik, Walsh, parcells, Lombardi, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, TheFatboi said: We can be NE tho bro. Or something like it. Which is build thru the draft which we have. Bill Walsh was belichik before belichik. These guys understand team building and I think Quinn does as well. It’s all about the draft. Which is why I argue every year with guys that want every FA that hits the market and I say we don’t need them. Which is why Bennett for a 3rd is something I’d do BECAUSE we’re built so well right now and will be for the next 5 years or so. I just don’t think this thing is as hard as ppl make it seem. Especially when you draft scheme specific players. Like belichik, Walsh, parcells, Lombardi, etc.. Well said and agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: Two PS guys and Grady are the only DTs under contract. I guess you can count Jack Crawford also - he played there before he got hurt. DT is still a need though. I’ve been saying we’ll go DT in the 1st when everybody thinks OG will be. I don’t see it. And we still may resign Rubin for the run and still may bring in a big name on the market if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Falcons need to make everyone of their first three picks. Falcons need more picks in this draft- not less. Already down a 5th for Sambrailo. If we give up a 4th for Michael Bennett, I hope we trade out of 1st round. We need talent on rookie scale wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: I’ve been saying we’ll go DT in the 1st when everybody thinks OG will be. I don’t see it. And we still may resign Rubin for the run and still may bring in a big name on the market if the price is right. Im not convinced we are going OG in the first - second either for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: Im not convinced we are going OG in the first - second either for that matter. There is little doubt that we are addressing both sides of the football’s interior lines. The only question is HOW? Draft/UFA/Trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, atljbo said: Don't think it will take a 3rd ... if 27 year old quinn went for a 4th ..... that's probably what it would take I think they will get a 5th rounder tho if they trade him I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Our window to win s Super Bowl title is right now. This organization has never won a Super Bowl. You do whatever you can to try to win one in the next two years. Bennett helps with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I wouldn't do it. Screw him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, g-dawg said: There is little doubt that we are addressing both sides of the football’s interior lines. The only question is HOW? Draft/UFA/Trade For sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mescalito Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, MSalmon said: Pro bowl and 8.5 sacks last year. He’s a huge upgrade from clay youre man crush on Wynn is absurd, but I don’t make fun of you He's a huge a&%hole too and probably a locker room cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, g-dawg said: There is little doubt that we are addressing both sides of the football’s interior lines. The only question is HOW? Draft/UFA/Trade 1st two picks in the draft imo are DT and OG. And like you said FA affect that a bit but straight up that’s the #1 and 2 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: Two PS guys and Grady are the only DTs under contract. I guess you can count Jack Crawford also - he played there before he got hurt. DT is still a need though. Exactly and Jack Crawford is a tweener than can kick inside but we need at least 2 more true DT’s and a DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mescalito said: He's a huge a&%hole too and probably a locker room cancer. And, why do you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: Our window to win s Super Bowl title is right now. This organization has never won a Super Bowl. You do whatever you can to try to win one in the next two years. Bennett helps with that Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, g-dawg said: There is little doubt that we are addressing both sides of the football’s interior lines. The only question is HOW? Draft/UFA/Trade I’d figure a mix of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, youngbloodz said: Our window to win s Super Bowl title is right now. This organization has never won a Super Bowl. You do whatever you can to try to win one in the next two years. Bennett helps with that That’s what I’m saying, we’re right there and need to go for it before these contracts start escalating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: I’ve been saying we’ll go DT in the 1st when everybody thinks OG will be. I don’t see it. And we still may resign Rubin for the run and still may bring in a big name on the market if the price is right. Not everybody, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hingle McCringleberry Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 My opinion in the matter is. If they fo OG in FA it will be DT in first, if they got DT in FA, it will be OG in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: We can be NE tho bro. Or something like it. Which is build thru the draft which we have. Bill Walsh was belichik before belichik. These guys understand team building and I think Quinn does as well. It’s all about the draft. Which is why I argue every year with guys that want every FA that hits the market and I say we don’t need them. Which is why Bennett for a 3rd is something I’d do BECAUSE we’re built so well right now and will be for the next 5 years or so. I just don’t think this thing is as hard as ppl make it seem. Especially when you draft scheme specific players. Like belichik, Walsh, parcells, Lombardi, etc.. I hear ya fatboi, and agree up to a point. Quinn definetely is in those coaches league in evaluating talent for his scheme...by far best we’ve ever had in that area. where he’s not shown me to be in their league is situationally making the right decisions at the right times in games. Not just in the SB either, but I keep seeing him make panicky type decisions that make me question if he is freezing up in close games...I know that’s harsh and all coaches have a learning curve like B.B. did in Cleveland, but until he improves in that area, it makes me wonder about him in that regard....he’s cost us a few games with poor situational coaching in his 3 seasons here, including the biggest one (and I know you know that) players like Bennett/Poe et al want to come play for Quinn, but he needs to win one for that to continue. My bigger point is we need to win it now...with a couple smart FA moves ( like a Bennett + a vet OG signing) and a quality draft (and a little luck health wise) I think this could be our year. Do that, and I agree we could go on a multi-year NE type run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Vandy said: They’ve stunk drafting period the past few years, after doing so well previously....shows drafting is still an inexact science. and the past few years we've actually done pretty dang well......there's a common denominator, care to take a guess???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, papachaz said: and the past few years we've actually done pretty dang well......there's a common denominator, care to take a guess???? LOL papa......This is true.... But For the (broken)record, I did not like our 2017 draft overall.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, Vandy said: I hear ya papa... For the record, I did not like our 2017 draft overall.... yeah last years draft wasn't quite as good as the previous two, and yeah I realize he probably had SOME say in SEA but maybe not a lot....but I'll take it! I know our last 3 all together probably have a better overall grade than the previous 4 or 5, and that includes the one with Julio in it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, Nereek said: I wouldn't do it. Screw him. I wouldn't do that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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