So if the Seahawks traded Michael Bennett for

[gazoo]

10 minutes ago, MSalmon said:

Lol if it gets us to a SB, I don’t mind in the least 

What if continued distractions and media circus cause teammates to lose focus and causes fissures in team unity? 

Ive appreciated for the most part our players staying out of this on Sundays. Their focus on game day should all be winning a Super Bowl.

On non football days I’d be happy to volunteer with some of them in their cuases, I already address the very thing they are concerned about in my volunteer work. 

With player acquisitions, it’s not always just about how good a player plays. That locker room is important too.

 

[TheFatboi]

2 minutes ago, gazoo said:

What if continued distractions and media circus cause teammates to lose focus and causes fissures in team unity? 

Ive appreciated for the most part our players staying out of this on Sundays. Their focus on game day should all be winning a Super Bowl.

On non football days I’d be happy to volunteer with some of them in their cuases, I already address the very thing they are concerned about in my volunteer work. 

With player acquisitions, it’s not always just about how good a player plays. That locker room is important too.

 

Can’t even see that happening. Quinn runs a tight ship and the brotherhood is real. And what media circus has ever been in Atl besides when Deion was here? His interviews are always about the game but he’s also intertaining. The Seahawks weren’t distracted. They just didn’t have a running game. They would’ve been right in the thick of things if they had a line and a running game and not the injuries to key players. Only unfocused players get distracted. We ain’t built that way. Bennett isn’t and unfocused player anyway. He’s always in his game. 

[falconsd56]

Not for a third......maybe  a 5th and 7th

He is over 30 and the hawks wanna move on.

No reason to pay a premium.

[TheFatboi]

1 minute ago, falconsd56 said:

Not for a third......maybe  a 5th and 7th

He is over 30 and the hawks wanna move on.

No reason to pay a premium.

Maybe not but I’d take it if it were available. We’re trying to win now. This isn’t a Future thing. That one move wouldn’t hurt us. I’d rather a 5th too but if 3rd was it I’d do that too. We’re in position to be able to do that. And a book end of him and Taak or a rush package of Taak, Beasley, and Bennett is a lot of pressure. His get off is still one of the best I’ve wber seen. Almost to the point you think he’s jumping offsides. He can teach that anticipation to takk and Beasley. 

[falconsd56]

2 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

Maybe not but I’d take it if it were available. We’re trying to win now. This isn’t a Future thing. That one move wouldn’t hurt us. I’d rather a 5th too but if 3rd was it I’d do that too. We’re in position to be able to do that. And a book end of him and Taak or a rush package of Taak, Beasley, and Bennett is a lot of pressure. His get off is still one of the best I’ve wber seen. Almost to the point you think he’s jumping offsides. He can teach that anticipation to takk and Beasley. 

I just think a third is too much.

But at the end of the day if we traded a third and we win the superbowl.....No one would remember.

I would say though...if we are going for the "lets win now" angle...lets do a Julio type trade to get up the the top 10

[Vandy]

1 hour ago, g-dawg said:

That’s fine but you still gotta be smart about it.   The odds are always against you winning a SuperBowl no matter how many aggressive moves you make.

Our defense was not the problem last year - it was the offense - and it wasn’t close.

I agree, but it wasn’t just the OL...it was poor execution... by coaches and players. Besides Hooper, I was shocked by how many dropped passes we had in crucial situations by Julio and sanu....Freeman was banged Up and wasn’t himself...and matt regressed ....he and team obviously weren’t on same page with Sark. 

OL was not THE problem, it was a combination of things...

team’s biggest Gap right now is DL, not OL ...and it’s not even close.

[g-dawg]

1 minute ago, Vandy said:

I agree, but it wasn’t just the OL...it was poor execution... by coaches and players. I was shocked by how many dropped oases we had in crucial situations ..,Freeman was banged Up and wasn’t himself...and matt regressed ....he and team obviously weren’t on same page with Sark. 

OL was not THE problem, it was a combination of things...

team’s biggest Gap right now is DL, not OL ...and it’s not even close.

OL was a big part of our red zone problem.

[falconsd56]

1 minute ago, Vandy said:

I agree, but it wasn’t just the OL...it was poor execution... by coaches and players. I was shocked by how many dropped oases we had in crucial situations ..,Freeman was banged Up and wasn’t himself...and matt regressed ....he and team obviously weren’t on same page with Sark. 

OL was not THE problem, it was a combination of things...

team’s biggest Gap right now is DL, not OL ...and it’s not even close.

I would say the entire front 7

We have what 3 linebackers under contract??

[MSalmon]

26 minutes ago, gazoo said:

What if continued distractions and media circus cause teammates to lose focus and causes fissures in team unity? 

Ive appreciated for the most part our players staying out of this on Sundays. Their focus on game day should all be winning a Super Bowl.

On non football days I’d be happy to volunteer with some of them in their cuases, I already address the very thing they are concerned about in my volunteer work. 

With player acquisitions, it’s not always just about how good a player plays. That locker room is important too.

 

That’s a DQ thing. I trust him on leadership and locker room cohesion

[TheFatboi]

5 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

I just think a third is too much.

But at the end of the day if we traded a third and we win the superbowl.....No one would remember.

I would say though...if we are going for the "lets win now" angle...lets do a Julio type trade to get up the the top 10

That’s what I don’t wanna do. Jump to top 10. I don’t think there’s anybody we NEED that high. If our core wasn’t intact I’d agree with you about the top 10. That’s more costly than a 3rd for Bennett. 

[Vandy]

8 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

OL was a big part of our red zone problem.

Questionable play calls,  Julio being doubled and nobody else getting separation were bigger reasons, IMO. Which is why I’ve wanted a Joker TE for matt the In RZ. 

[TheFatboi]

6 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

OL was a big part of our red zone problem.

I disagree with that. Play calling and execution was our red zone problem. Matt missed a wide open toilolo late in the Philly game that would’ve been a sure TD. Things like that was our red zone issue. Not the line. 

[gazoo]

7 minutes ago, MSalmon said:

That’s a DQ thing. I trust him on leadership and locker room cohesion

Undeniable that so far so good, the team is run very well by DQ and the veteran leadership. 

[TheFatboi]

1 minute ago, Vandy said:

Questionable play calls,  Julio being doubled and nobody else getting separation were bigger reasons, IMO. Which is why I’ve wanted a Joker TE for matt the In RZ. 

That absolutely was the reason. I saw more blown Plays from execution than line play. Like Matt looking for Julio instead of just finding the open guy. Like the Toilolo play against Philly. If he throws to toilolo early it’s a TD. Instead he was looking for Julio and saw toilolo late and the result was incomplete. Matt kinda got fixated on Julio this past season when the year before he just hit the open guy like Brees and Brady do. 

[falcons007]

32 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

I disagree with that. Play calling and execution was our red zone problem. Matt missed a wide open toilolo late in the Philly game that would’ve been a sure TD. Things like that was our red zone issue. Not the line. 

OL was a big problem and teams started doubling Sanu in the redzone which gave Matt not many options but Julio. There were quiet a few plays where DL got to Matt before some one was open. It was pretty obvious in redzone on both saints game how out of sync line and Recivers were along with Matt Ryan.

[g-dawg]

36 minutes ago, TheFatboi said:

I disagree with that. Play calling and execution was our red zone problem. Matt missed a wide open toilolo late in the Philly game that would’ve been a sure TD. Things like that was our red zone issue. Not the line. 

OLine is a big problem in the red zone.  We don’t win the LOS in a phone booth as we lack strength and power in our OLine.   

Dan Quinn said in this off-season he wants to “be able to run it when the other team knows we are gonna run it and be able to do it anyway- and red zone.  In the red zone, there are more defenders defending less real estate and stopping the run becomes much easier- and the Falcons offensive line just doesn’t flourish in those situations.

[hjerry]

All reports are that they're intent on moving on from him, and will just release him outright if they can't find a trade partner. As such, it's up in the air if anyone will give them anything, since they can just wait for him to be cut.

It's quite possible (if we're even interested) that we'll either do the same, or simply offer them some low pick, so they can at least get something out of this.

[falconsd56]

1 hour ago, TheFatboi said:

That’s what I don’t wanna do. Jump to top 10. I don’t think there’s anybody we NEED that high. If our core wasn’t intact I’d agree with you about the top 10. That’s more costly than a 3rd for Bennett. 

As always it is going to depend on  what we do in free agency.

We have cleared around 7 million and we can add more just by extending Matthews.

But I could see us falling in love with a guy and making a big move up.

I think Blank is getting impatient with winning a title.

[TheFatboi]

1 hour ago, falcons007 said:

OL was a big problem and teams started doubling Sanu in the redzone which gave Matt not many options but Julio. There were quiet a few plays where DL got to Matt before some one was open. It was pretty obvious in redzone on both saints game how out of sync line and Recivers were along with Matt Ryan.

We lost 6 games and none of them was a result of the line. Matt threw 3 picks in the first saints game and we still won. We lead the league in drops and Matt only threw 4 picks out of 12 that were his fault. I never looked at the line as a reason for ANY loss. Especially when nobody ever scored more than 23 points on us besides Seattle. All the bombs Matt threw that were either dropped and picked off or he overthrew had nothing to do with the line. If anything levitre’s Injury hurt us more than anything but the line was not that much of an issue. Again, we went to the second round of the playoffs and should’ve went to the 3rd after demolishing LA on the road. Line Play wasn’t why we lost to the eagles. In the SB Mack gave up a quick crucial sack in the redzone then Matthews held!!! That happens from time to time. Show me one game we lost because of the line play??? Not saying we had great line Play but the numbers from the running backs was a out the same and Matt was hit/sacked about the same. Only thing that was down was PASSING TD’s and poor player execution and a new OC were the result of much of that. 

[falconsd56]

1 minute ago, TheFatboi said:

We lost 6 games and none of them was a result of the line. Matt threw 3 picks in the first saints game and we still won. We lead the league in drops and Matt only threw 4 picks out of 12 that were his fault. I never looked at the line as a reason for ANY loss. Especially when nobody ever scored more than 23 points on us besides Seattle. All the bombs Matt threw that were either dropped and picked off or he overthrew had nothing to do with the line. If anything levitre’s Injury hurt us more than anything but the line was not that much of an issue. Again, we went to the second round of the playoffs and should’ve went to the 3rd after demolishing LA on the road. Line Play wasn’t why we lost to the eagles. 

The line needs more consistency...but yeah it  was not the turnstyle that people make it out.

Levitre getting hurt really put a dent into the line who started rounding out.

Get him healthy....add a vet guard to either replace  Schweitzer such as Sitton or take the route of letting him develop with vet competition

[Vandy]

1 hour ago, falcons007 said:

OL was a big problem and teams started doubling Sanu in the redzone which gave Matt not many options but Julio. There were quiet a few plays where DL got to Matt before some one was open. It was pretty obvious in redzone on both saints game how out of sync line and Recivers were along with Matt Ryan.

 

1 hour ago, g-dawg said:

OLine is a big problem in the red zone.  We don’t win the LOS in a phone booth as we lack strength and power in our OLine.   

Dan Quinn said in this off-season he wants to “be able to run it when the other team knows we are gonna run it and be able to do it anyway- and red zone.  In the red zone, there are more defenders defending less real estate and stopping the run becomes much easier- and the Falcons offensive line just doesn’t flourish in those situations.

Even with Wes, Falcons OL was Top 10 NFL last year. 

It needs some tweaks, but you guys are waaay overstating the case that OL was THE problem for the offense regression last season. Wes wasn’t great for sure, but neither was the guy he replaced Chris Chester. Come on now.

RZ problems were in execution throughout the team...receivers dropping passes, OL missing blocks, RBs fumbling and not hitting holes, and even the QB locking in and not going through his progressions and missing wide open receivers....all mixed in with some questionable play calling as well.

[TheFatboi]

9 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

The line needs more consistency...but yeah it  was not the turnstyle that people make it out.

Levitre getting hurt really put a dent into the line who started rounding out.

Get him healthy....add a vet guard to either replace  Schweitzer such as Sitton or take the route of letting him develop with vet competition

Great post. CONSISTENCY was the line problem. Not a turnstile. I agree 100% with this. 

[TheFatboi]

2 minutes ago, Vandy said:

 

Even with Wes, Falcons OL was Top 10 NFL last year. 

It needs some tweaks, but you guys waaay overstating the case that OL was THE problem for the offense regression last season. Wes wasn’t great for sure, but neither was the guy he replaced Chris Chester. 

RZ problems were in execution throughout the team...recovers, OL, RB, and even the QB..and in some questionable play calling as well.

Great post bro!!! The line was Bad during the SB run because of Chester. And he wasn’t that bad. Just the weakest link on a good line. Wes wasn’t great but he wasn’t terrible either. Held his own against some tough dudes last year. I was more pissed with wr’s than line Play. 

[gazoo]

Early on the season Schweitzer was getting mauled/abused by some of the better NFL DTs  and it did force Ryan to get rid of the ball much faster that he otherwise would have and disrupted the running game. When one lineman is getting abused it does throw the offense off. 

Schweitzer did steadily improve as the year went on though.

[Butudontseeme™]

1 hour ago, TheFatboi said:

That absolutely was the reason. I saw more blown Plays from execution than line play. Like Matt looking for Julio instead of just finding the open guy. Like the Toilolo play against Philly. If he throws to toilolo early it’s a TD. Instead he was looking for Julio and saw toilolo late and the result was incomplete. Matt kinda got fixated on Julio this past season when the year before he just hit the open guy like Brees and Brady do. 

If you’re talking about the 4th down play, Lolo wasn’t an option. As soon as he disengaged his block, he got knocked down. In fact, every pass catching option on that play (except whoever it was to the far left of the field that wasn’t an option due to play design) was on the ground at some point. 

If Matt was fixated on Julio, it’s easy to understand (not excuse) since he was the only one who could consistently create any space and the whole team had a problem with drops and tipped INTs