lju713 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Young but oft injured TE. Should we do a 1yr prove it deal similar to Poe. Not 8 mil for 1 year obviously, but Eifert would help us on 3rd downs and the middle of the field. Taking some pressure off of Julio and opening up more routes for Sanu underneath. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Although there are no long term concerns about eifert,I personally wouldn’t give up on hooper with a guy coming off an ankle injury. There truly is nothing wrong with hooper. Not everyone will be Tony G. Spare me the posts about drops. There isn’t one receiver on the falcons that doesn’t drop passes so I don’t care about those complaints at all. Hooper never truly had a player to mentor him and help his development. Eifert is the household name but I wouldn’t want him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 We usually take guys with upside but bad situations like this. I really hope we try to grab him, in rotation with Hoop, we can save grabbing a TE in the drafts till later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, ya_boi_j said: Although there are no long term concerns about eifert,I personally wouldn’t give up on hooper with a guy coming off an ankle injury. There truly is nothing wrong with hooper. Not everyone will be Tony G. Spare me the posts about drops. There isn’t one receiver on the falcons that doesn’t drop passes so I don’t care about those complaints at all. Hooper never truly had a player to mentor him and help his development. Eifert is the household name but I wouldn’t want him Hoop isn't bad by any means. But a guy who can command double teams at the redzone will help this offense tremendously. Eifert would have to prove it on the field though. I like him because he's proven he can be such a guy whenever he was healthy. TE salaries aren't bad and he wouldn't get top TE money anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, UnrealfalcoN said: Hoop isn't bad by any means. But a guy who can command double teams at the redzone will help this offense tremendously. Eifert would have to prove it on the field though. I like him because he's proven he can be such a guy whenever he was healthy. TE salaries aren't bad and he wouldn't get top TE money anyway. Julio is supposed to be that guy allowing others to be wide open but he’s never the one to make plays so I don’t see how having eifert would change that. I still think it would remain the same. No matter who the offensive coordinator is the falcons only have about 5 plays in the red zone, particularly at the goal line. And the play calling in the red zone is obvious most times no matter who the coordinator is. The problem is even with eifert, do they still attempt to force it to Julio or does Matt move his head around because sooooooo many points have been left off the board due to that alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I’d be down...very challenging receiver to defend especially in the red zone, but he would be very hard to lean on because of his injury history. Someone will give him a solid 1 year or okay 2-3 yr contract though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lju713 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Hooper is fine but 2 TE attacks are deadly. Philly utilized it to a T this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Although there are no long term concerns about eifert,I personally wouldn’t give up on hooper with a guy coming off an ankle injury. There truly is nothing wrong with hooper. Not everyone will be Tony G. Spare me the posts about drops. There isn’t one receiver on the falcons that doesn’t drop passes so I don’t care about those complaints at all. Hooper never truly had a player to mentor him and help his development. Eifert is the household name but I wouldn’t want him I agree 100% Hooper did pretty well his rookie year and had a sophomore slump. I think he gets it together and becomes a very dependable weapon his 3rd season. Would not be surprised if Hooper becomes Ryan's #1 redzone weapon in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Although there are no long term concerns about eifert,I personally wouldn’t give up on hooper with a guy coming off an ankle injury. There truly is nothing wrong with hooper. Not everyone will be Tony G. Spare me the posts about drops. There isn’t one receiver on the falcons that doesn’t drop passes so I don’t care about those complaints at all. Hooper never truly had a player to mentor him and help his development. Eifert is the household name but I wouldn’t want him Id love Eifert, not to give up on Hoop but to compliment Hoop with more 3 TE sets. I dunno what Saubert brings, but I would love a move athletic TE to pair with Hoopah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, athell said: Id love Eifert, not to give up on Hoop but to compliment Hoop with more 3 TE sets. I dunno what Saubert brings, but I would love a move athletic TE to pair with Hoopah. 2-3 tight end sets are deadly but have to be done properly. That’s the biggest thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I don't see getting Eifert as automatically relegating Hooper to bench warmer status. He does have a lot of potential, but with Eifert you wouldn't have to worry about whether Hooper is going to be an impact TE or just another body taking up a roster spot again this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I'd rather risk signing Eifert than risk wasting a draft pick on an uncertain TE commodity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: Julio is supposed to be that guy allowing others to be wide open but he’s never the one to make plays so I don’t see how having eifert would change that. I still think it would remain the same. No matter who the offensive coordinator is the falcons only have about 5 plays in the red zone, particularly at the goal line. And the play calling in the red zone is obvious most times no matter who the coordinator is. The problem is even with eifert, do they still attempt to force it to Julio or does Matt move his head around because sooooooo many points have been left off the board due to that alone Doesn't matter if Julio is GOAT, the team has to get better every year. Matt has proven he can spread the ball by setting the NFL record just a year ago, so he's obviously capable and thrived with TG88. I would be surprised if Sark's plan is to stay consistent to 2017. He will also improve. Eifert isn't a cure all. The offense would still need upgrades at other spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I like Hooper as well but I like Trey Burton as another FA we can get. Free agent market watch: Tight end Trey Burton https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2018/2/8/16977864/free-agent-market-watch-tight-end-trey-burton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux_Falcons Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Seferian-jenkins would probably give us more bang for our buck, and probably has more upside honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PADirtyBird Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Geaux_Falcons said: Seferian-jenkins would probably give us more bang for our buck, and probably has more upside honestly. I’m curious of Sark’s input on ASJ. I think signing him would be from Sark pushing for it since there is some familiarity there from Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 pass. he has missed 41 games in 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citsalp Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Water is wet. the sky is blue...Those you could depend on.... Eifert not so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lju713 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 He is oft injured. If we could get him for 1yr 2m prove it deal i would be okay. But ASJ would be nice. Same as Burton. Just want another threat at TE to go with Hoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 its perfect since Hooper is kind of a starter...Even if Eifert doesnt play Hooper is fine and will develop, but if he works out it would be amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 hours ago, lju713 said: Young but oft injured TE. Should we do a 1yr prove it deal similar to Poe. Not 8 mil for 1 year obviously, but Eifert would help us on 3rd downs and the middle of the field. Taking some pressure off of Julio and opening up more routes for Sanu underneath. Thoughts? yes yes yes. Big redzone target. Limiting snaps could keep him healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLSlobberKnockers Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 hours ago, ki46dinah said: I’d be down...very challenging receiver to defend especially in the red zone, but he would be very hard to lean on because of his injury history. Someone will give him a solid 1 year or okay 2-3 yr contract though. Only need him in redzone and 3rd downs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lju713 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 He is oft injured. If we could get him for 1yr 2m prove it deal i would be okay. But ASJ would be nice. Same as Burton. Just want another threat at TE to go with Hoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 hours ago, ya_boi_j said: Although there are no long term concerns about eifert,I personally wouldn’t give up on hooper with a guy coming off an ankle injury. There truly is nothing wrong with hooper. Not everyone will be Tony G. Spare me the posts about drops. There isn’t one receiver on the falcons that doesn’t drop passes so I don’t care about those complaints at all. Hooper never truly had a player to mentor him and help his development. Eifert is the household name but I wouldn’t want him I agree. The same can be said for a lot of players on our team, leading to a lot of our struggles. We didn't have the huge impact from this year's rookies like we got last year, and we didn't see as large of a jump from our younger players as we would've hoped either. In some cases they actually had a worse season. I see that as no reason to wholesale give up on every young player on the team, and replace everybody with proven FAs. If we can't develop our younger players and expect them to grow, then this team is doomed anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, hjerry said: I agree. The same can be said for a lot of players on our team, leading to a lot of our struggles. We didn't have the huge impact from this year's rookies like we got last year, and we didn't see as large of a jump from our younger players as we would've hoped either. In some cases they actually had a worse season. I see that as no reason to wholesale give up on every young player on the team, and replace everybody with proven FAs. If we can't develop our younger players and expect them to grow, then this team is doomed anyway. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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