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The Trump Presidency (take 2)

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“What about Joe Manchin?” Trump asked, as if McConnell must have for­gotten him. Manchin, a 69-year-old West Virginia Democrat who liked to position himself as above partisan politics and willing to work with the GOP, was coming up for reelection in 2018 in a state that Trump had won by 42 points. On top of that, Trump viewed him as a personal friend. Surely his buddy Joe would play ball.

“Absolutely not, Mr. President,” McConnell said in a tone that seemed designed to end the debate.

“Really?” the president asked. Often the contrarian, he seemed to view this as a personal challenge as well as a test of his persuasiveness. “I have a wonderful relationship with him; I think he might come around.”

McConnell didn’t flinch. He stayed sitting upright in his brown leather chair, elbows on the armrests and hands clasped underneath his chin.

“Mr. President,” he began, “he’ll never be with us when it counts. I’ve seen this time and time again. We’re going to do everything in our power to beat him when he comes up for reelection in 2018.”

Trump seemed taken aback. He cut his eyes at Priebus, as if to say, Why did no one tell me this was an issue? He didn’t seem angry, just befuddled.

“Well, Joe’s been a friend of mine, so we’ll have to see,” Trump said, turning his attention back to McConnell. “Do we have to go after him like that?” “Absolutely, Mr. President,” McConnell shot back without a moment’s hesitation. “We’re going to crush him like a grape.” Outside the walls of the Roosevelt Room, the conventional wisdom was that men like McConnell would temper Trump’s aggressive impulses. Just the opposite was happening right now. There was a brief silence—maybe a half second—when the atmosphere in the room felt like the scene in Goodfellas when no one can tell how Joe Pesci is going to react to Ray Liotta calling him “funny.” Would he freak out? Would he laugh it off? Finally Trump broke the tension.

“This guy’s mean as a snake!” he said, pointing at McConnell and looking around the room. The entire group burst out laughing.

“I like it, though, Mitch,” he continued, giving McConnell two quick pats on the back. “If that’s what you think we need to do.”

“I do,” McConnell said, never breaking his steely-­eyed character.

I saw a side of Mitch McConnell that day that I’d never appreciated as an outside observer. His cold­blooded response to the president’s Manchin questions revealed an underlying toughness that earned him a new respect and appreciation in the president’s eyes, particularly compared to many of the more weak­-willed, equivocating members of Congress he’d encounter.

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24 minutes ago, Boner said:

Good god.  Can we tone down the citizen patrol outrage?

I’ve been thinking about making a list of names in my sig like @HolyMoses except instead of traitors mine will be comprised of posters who have been horny for AOC in this thread.

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2 minutes ago, Billy Ocean said:

I’ve been thinking about making a list of names in my sig like @HolyMoses except instead of traitors mine will be comprised of posters who have been horny for AOC in this thread.

 

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40 minutes ago, HolyMoses said:

That' is so cheap.  

Fact is that Sarah Palin is an attractive woman.

Even attractive  people sometimes make unattractive expressions.  

Capturing such a moment and posting it for mockery is cheap lazy.

Cheap and lazy is fine if it it funny.  And this isn't even funny.

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It's all in good fun. Unwad your panties.

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Sorry for the mutliple articles and posts here, but I do think this one is important and should be read by everyone.  Nate Silver compares Trump to a bad poker player, but talks a lot about how being a good poker player means not putting yourself in a bad position in the first place.  Which is what Trump did...

"It’s been obvious the whole time that it was liable to end in political (if not also literal) disaster. Trump was an unpopular president using an unpopular technique to push for an unpopular policy, and he was doing it just after Republicans had lost 40 seats to Democrats in the midterm elections while Trump tried to scaremonger voters on immigration. I can certainly think of lapses in presidential judgment that were more consequential in hindsight than the shutdown, but not all that many that were so obvious in advance."

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-president-trump-is-like-a-terrible-poker-player/

^^^And this is what I do NOT want Democrats to do in the future...put themselves in a bad and impossible political position because they made promises to their base that they can never keep if they get power.  

Silver focuses on Trump in this article, but I'd argue that the entire GOP has been doing this for years.  "We will repeal Obamacare!"  Well, that's not popular with anyone but the GOP base, which is a minority of the country...so they either pass an unpopular policy or they piss off their base.  There's a good lesson here about avoiding a bad political position by making impossible promises to the base.

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My joke of the day. In the right thread since it's about Trump so don't send the police.

JUST IN: The Secret Service got a real scare the other day when someone threw a beer at Donald Trump during a speech. Fortunately, it was a draft, so he was able to dodge it.        
 

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13 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said:

 

Get er' done.  If he was honest there wouldn't be so many lies from he and his people, half of whom pled guilty to lying.

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i don't think there's any value in equivocating between the gop's inherent contradiction about the affordable care act and the genuine and serious polices being pushed by the left the last couple of years. like, the gop failure wasn't in pursing an unpopular policy but rather an impossible one - their criticisms were centered in literal fantasy and their solutions could only ever be harmful.

trying to make this into some sort of "ah ha! this is exactly what happens the base gets what it wants" is just more dumb false equivalency ********.

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1 minute ago, mdrake34 said:

 

We should stay out of all failed socialist states...recurring theme (American left take heed) socialist states...just sayin'

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7 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said:

 

At least dude is consistent.

 

@Billy Ocean 

Do Republicans really not understand how terrible of a precedent this is going to set and how badly they're going to regret this in the future if they sit by and let Trump do it?  The myopia is astounding to me.

 

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1 hour ago, big_dog said:

My joke of the day. In the right thread since it's about Trump so don't send the police.

JUST IN: The Secret Service got a real scare the other day when someone threw a beer at Donald Trump during a speech. Fortunately, it was a draft, so he was able to dodge it.        
 

Donald Trump received five student draft deferments and said he couldn’t serve because bone spurs. 

Joe Biden received five student draft deferments and said he couldn’t serve because teenage asthma.

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8 minutes ago, Billy Ocean said:

Donald Trump received five student draft deferments and said he couldn’t serve because bone spurs. 

Joe Biden received five student draft deferments and said he couldn’t serve because teenage asthma.

Your point being?

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Just now, big_dog said:

Your point being?

Draft dodging has been socially acceptable for decades. It’s a stupid criticism. Nobody cares.

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