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The Trump Presidency (take 2)

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6 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

He’d still do her! :lol:

I might too if she bought me a Mercedes Benz. :ninja:  ..  ..  .. 

:lol:  WFW would do it even if he realized she dislikes Trump also.

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1 minute ago, ♒Sn4tteRBoxXeR♒ said:

I give zero ****s for these people

I don't understand the hostility:

What is it about living an a golf course that draws your ire?

Do you know anything else about them?  Are they progressive?  Charitable?  What religion?  

Careful about painting with a broad brush.

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6 minutes ago, ♒Sn4tteRBoxXeR♒ said:

I give zero ****s for these people

You know how much wasted land that is for a non-athletic sport?

Over a million acres in the U.S. alone.

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Are Dems being hypocritical of shutdown over border wall when they shut down the government over Obamacare?

Democrats calling border security a 'manufactured' crisis; Republican strategist Peter Lumaj debates former deputy assistant secretary of state Joel Rubin.

Barring some miraculous breakthrough, on Saturday the current government shutdown will become the longest in American history. But it has already hit another historic milestone: It is, by far and away, the stupidest government shutdown in American history.

In 2019, the federal government will spend a whopping $4.407 trillion. Yet Congress and the president are shutting down the government in a dispute between the $1.3 billion the Democrats have approved for border security and the $5.7 billion the president is demanding -- precisely 0.0998 percent of the total federal budget. In Washington, that is considered a rounding error.

Worse, Democrats are doing it over a border wall strikingly similar to one that they almost unanimously supported just five years ago. While House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., now says that "a wall is an immorality," back in 2013, she supported a bill that required the construction of 700 miles of border fencing. (Trump has called for a wall of "anywhere from 700 to 900 miles" long.) The bill negotiated by the Gang of Eight, which included current Democratic leaders Sens. Charles Schumer, N.Y., and **** Durbin, Ill., declared that "not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary [of Homeland Security] shall establish ...the 'Southern Border Fencing Strategy,' to identify where 700 miles of fencing (including double-layer fencing) ... should be deployed along the Southern border."

That's not all. The bill further said that "the Secretary may not adjust the status of aliens who have been granted registered provisional immigrant status ... until 6 months after ... [the Secretary submits] a written certification that ... there is in place along the Southern Border no fewer than 700 miles of pedestrian fencing." In other words, Democrats agreed that no illegal immigrants could get a path to citizenship until all 700 miles of border fencing had been fully completed.

Every Senate Democrat voted for the Gang of Eight bill -- including 36 Democratic senators still serving today. President Barack Obama agreed to sign it. Indeed, he praised the bill for including what he called "the most aggressive border security plan in our history" and said that "the Senate bill is consistent with the key principles for commonsense reform that I -- and many others -- have repeatedly laid out" (emphasis added). That bears repeating: Obama said building a 700-mile fence on the southern border was consistent with the principles of the Democratic Party.

Pelosi supported the Gang of Eight bill, saying at the time that "every piece of this legislation has had bipartisan support" (emphasis added). But now we are shutting down the government over a wall much like the one that Pelosi and Senate Democrats fully supported just five years ago?

Democrats will object that the Gang of Eight bill did fund a border wall, but it was in exchange for a lot of concessions. Of course it was. As Obama said at the time, "the bipartisan bill that passed today was a compromise." But today, Democrats are refusing to compromise or lay out what concessions they would accept in exchange for wall funding. When Trump rhetorically backed off the wall and talked about "steel slats" -- a fence -- Democrats ignored it. When Vice President Mike Pence reportedly offered a deal for $2.5 billion, Democrats dismissed it. In a White House meeting Wednesday, Trump asked Pelosi whether, if he agreed to end the shutdown and negotiate separately on border security, she would support wall funding. She said no.

That is ridiculous.

In their response to the president's address to the nation, Schumer and Pelosi accused Trump of "manufacturing a crisis." That is simply untrue. As The Post reported this week, the United States now faces "a bona fide emergency on the border" as "record numbers of migrant families are streaming into the United States, overwhelming border agents and leaving holding cells dangerously overcrowded with children, many of whom are falling sick."

Democrats could not possibly be in a better position to demand concessions form Trump if they had manufactured a crisis. So put some demands on the table, for crying out loud. If Democrats think they have Trump cornered, then squeeze him and try get a lot out of him. But don't refuse to negotiate and tell us the wall is an "immorality" -- because their voting history shows they don't believe that.

Marc Thiessen is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). Thiessen served as chief speechwriter to President George W. Bush and to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

 

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3 hours ago, SpongeDad said:

I'm going to walk over there in a few min. I'm waiting on my phone to charge to I can record what happens just in case I may need it later as proof. I'm not going to be rude with her. I'm going to ask her if she seen Steve. Obviously she's going to say no. I just want to get a read on her when she denies it.  But like you said, if she ask me to leave her property, I'm gone.

in my neck of the woo,  a missing cat was coyote lunch, 8 times out of 10...  And a cat that's sprayin? A coyote can smell that stank from miles away (this my hillbilly smarts talken), it's buttered bread like a dinner bell.

Now I had 1 cat go missing 3 months, came back with a fine litter of kittens, but that cat was a hoot. One of my favorite cats ever. Eventually did go missing a second time and never came back. Woudl stare into a shiny tin kettle for hours on end like it's found the fifth dimension. Hyper space cat.

Anyway, my advice is don't tell her it got eaten cause of course we never know, unless you witness't it (and I have), just tell her it went on an adventure... and might come back, but it's not lost. Cats don't get lost unless they aren't a real cat.

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1 minute ago, Statick said:

You know how much wasted land that is for a non-athletic sport?

The environmental impact of golf is pretty indefensible.  They are making efforts to reduce the damage and provide wetlands and preserve habitat, but it's bad.

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3 minutes ago, HolyMoses said:

I don't understand the hostility:

What is it about living an a golf course that draws your ire?

Do you know anything else about them?  Are they progressive?  Charitable?  What religion?  

Careful about painting with a broad brush.

It's about priorities, not hostility. It's an  aggressive apathy, which is still apathy in my book.

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1 hour ago, mdrake34 said:

You're addicted to him and he's your old, dirty needle.

 

37 minutes ago, eatcorn said:

Yeah...uh...you can say that to pretty much this entire board.

 

Yeah, he's the shared dirty needle of anyone who actually tries to engage with him.

 

23 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

Most dunk on him. big dog plays footsy with him.

 

Just to be clear, no one on here "dunks" on WFW by asking him questions, or providing reasonable counterpoints to his posts, or explaining why he's wrong, or demonstrating his inconsistent positions, etc.  It does not matter that the person is clearly right, while he is wrong, or that it exposes his bad faith, or his hyper-partisan cheerleading, or his inability to acknowledge facts.

The only way to dunk on him is either ignoring him or laughing at him or maybe making a smug remark to others in reference to him.  Engaging him just turns the dunker into the dunkee.

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2 minutes ago, Gaear Grimsrud said:

 

 

Yeah, he's the shared dirty needle of anyone who actually tries to engage with him.

 

 

Just to be clear, no one on here "dunks" on WFW by asking him questions, or providing reasonable counterpoints to his posts, or explaining why he's wrong, or demonstrating his inconsistent positions, etc.  It does not matter that the person is clearly right, while he is wrong, or that it exposes his bad faith, or his hyper-partisan cheerleading, or his inability to acknowledge facts.

The only way to dunk on him is either ignoring him or laughing at him or maybe making a smug remark to others in reference to him.  Engaging him just turns the dunker into the dunkee.

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2 minutes ago, Gaear Grimsrud said:

 

 

Yeah, he's the shared dirty needle of anyone who actually tries to engage with him.

 

 

Just to be clear, no one on here "dunks" on WFW by asking him questions, or providing reasonable counterpoints to his posts, or explaining why he's wrong, or demonstrating his inconsistent positions, etc.  It does not matter that the person is clearly right, while he is wrong, or that it exposes his bad faith, or his hyper-partisan cheerleading, or his inability to acknowledge facts.

The only way to dunk on him is either ignoring him or laughing at him or maybe making a smug remark to others in reference to him.  Engaging him just turns the dunker into the dunkee.

Problem is they do ask, then I throw truth bombs back. When they aren't addressed you/I know I'm right.

Now the other problem you and some others on here have is fact checking opinions. A fact is a fact and an opinion is just that.

Hating on Trump and thinking you're right because of it is priceless to me.

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1 minute ago, mdrake34 said:

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I really wish the hooker that goes to the Jose Feliciano concert with Steve Buscemi had a name.  "Alright.  C'mon. Huh? I hear bells. C'mon.  Huh?  Alright.  Well where are ya? "

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17 minutes ago, big_dog said:

I might too if she bought me a Mercedes Benz. :ninja:  ..  ..  .. 

:lol:  WFW would do it even if he realized she dislikes Trump also.

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Nah... I would need at least eight figures just to consider it!

i maybe easy, but I ain’t cheap! :lol:

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Just now, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

Nah... I would need at least eight figures just to consider it!

i maybe easy, but I ain’t cheap! :lol:

Yes I know, and yes I could.

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1 hour ago, JayOzOne said:

Whatever. Do you suppose a ladder could breach a border wall? Do you think someone could tunnel under it? Do you suppose nobody can cut through steel barriers? If you answer to any of these is "no", we have nothing else to discuss because you're clearly smarter than I am.

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Fun fact: The Spanish word for "ladder" is "escalera". I took three years of Spanish and never learned that. Thanks, Trump!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856

I'd love to see 5000 caravaners rush the "barrier" all at once with a ladder or two. :lol:

That's also where we got these...

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4 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said:

 

****, They know it is bad. 

That's hysterical. I picture them using lots of strikethroughs for stuff like "felonious crimes" and "collusion" that gets turned into "saved lot of puppies" and "donated to churches".

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