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1 minute ago, falcons007 said:

Is any one surprised, Ryan’s best years are when line gives him time for deep ball. Last year the line held up, this year he could barely get out the ball 10 yards. 

And even in our best years, he still takes more of a beating than most winning quarterbacks. If the fans can see that, why can't our FO? Are they so clever so as to think the principles of football do not apply?

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On 1/14/2018 at 8:17 PM, droopy1592 said:

Yeah, spend all of that money on your lines first 

And have defenses at home at their level of play. Both games could've been lost by the home teams. 

To be honest, we'd be in Minny next week if we had better run blocking and fed Tevin more. Can't hide LG/RG/FB/apparently Free being hurt as well(?) forever; despite moving the ball fairly well outside of Free's production drop.

Sark was caught trying to overthink it completely knowing we weren't running it well. The angle of his adjustments in RZ has to improve. Would've rather a run on 1stD&G to Tevin at least or gotten better personnel at the end.

Issue was our overall blocking down the stretch.

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16 hours ago, Mega Flare said:

It's getting back to the days when QB was just another position, instead of one that's overemphasized.  Football should be about the team instead of stars tjat the league chanhes the rules to overprotect.  Hlad to see some nobody QB's getting a shot, and the lines and D's getting some credit.

Yep.  This is the most interesting thing to me with this year's playoffs. 

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15 hours ago, Geaux_Falcons said:

Let's be honest here. Vikings got a lucky play, Eagles benefited from playing an offense that has had poor execution all year. Jags are the only team that is really relying on a middling QB, and bortles hasn' been that bad really.

You forget Vikings had to make it to the playoffs first and they fiinished 13-3 with Keenum for most of hte season.

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1 minute ago, MilleniumFalcon said:

Two brain-farts that could've been an all NFC South NFC Championship game. Falcons are a Sark brain-fart play calling series away from being in. Saints are a Marcus Williams brain-fart away from being in. Elite Defenses matter but it was also so close to having Brees, Brady, Ryan, and Bortles in the final 4.

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I think the shift is toward Defense.  

You need an efficient offense, but you need a lights out defense.  

Also, one contributing factor is that the Ref's try to 'let them play' in the post season.  So Defenses get a way with a lot more in the post season, thus making them stronger/better.  

While we lost Saturday to the Eagles, I don't think there is a single Falcons fan that felt we got outplayed or that our offense should have put up more than 10 points.  If we get a few things sorted out this offseason with the offense, we should be back and ready to make another run next year.  Back to back playoffs is a big step for this franchise.  

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4 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

No, I think it was close to Brady, Breesus, Ryan, and Bortles being in championship weekend.  Close, like horseshoes and hand grenades...where close only counts  

I get the reference. I'm just saying it was close to those 4 being in hence there is no paradigm shift. 3 of the 4 QB's currently playing are having good years and then there's Nick Foles.

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I think this has been quietly going on for a few seasons now. I think that in a hard cap league, it’s hard to build a consistent winner if you have $25M invested in one player. If you’re not paying that to a star QB, it’s easier to have a team that can last a lot longer and isn’t dependent on one player. From a team building perspective, it may be the superior route to a championship roster. 

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17 hours ago, BLM said:

Bortles, Keenum, and Foles in Championship Games.  Have teams learned how to win without a solid QB? 

Are QBs no longer that important any more?  Pretty impressive IMO.

 

 

Yes...rely on fluke plays.   Do you think Foles planned to complete a pass off Keanu's knee?    Do you think Minn planned to win the game on a 1 in a million TD pass with 10 seconds before.   

 

The truth is that there are so many variables in any given play and in any given game, its never going to be a simple as the thread subject suggests. 

 

The chiefs were the better team...but the Titans QB found a way to throw a TD pass to himself!

 

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, BLM said:

You forget Vikings had to make it to the playoffs first and they fiinished 13-3 with Keenum for most of hte season.

Based off of our game against minny, we easily could have made that record 12-4. We beat ourselves more than the Vikings beat us with their defense. 

Probably could make a case for GB not having Rodgers in a 16-0 defeat and also played the Browns and Bengals which was more like 2 cupcakes on the schedule not including the Bears. 

13-3 doesnt tell the whole story on Minnesota's season. They just beat the team'  they should have beat. Complete opposite of what the Falcons did (Mia, Buf). 

I say all of that to say,the Vikings definitely had a tough defense, but it's not a cause for paradigm shift in team philosophy for all teams in the league. Having a tough defense has always been a key factor for championship teams. Putting every resource in defense isn't the answer to winning a Lombardi though.

Saints could have easily walked out of Minnesota with a plane ticket to Philly or better yet, could have been getting ready for a NFC south showdown at home next week against us. This conversation wouldn't even be talked about.

 

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This is being way over stated.  Philly doesn’t get there without Wentz who would be the mvp if not for the injury.  Case Keenum has put up great numbers this year, and Tom Brady is the goat.  The only real team this applies to is Jacksonville.

We are only 12 months removed from the final 4 qbs being Ryan, Rodgers, Ben and Brady.  It’s still a QB driven league.

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On 1/15/2018 at 8:13 AM, BLM said:

Bortles, Keenum, and Foles in Championship Games.  Have teams learned how to win without a solid QB? 

Are QBs no longer that important any more?  Pretty impressive IMO.

Nah it’s just a one year anomaly

Rodgers injured all year

Brees a fluke play from being in Final 4

Ryan had 4 downs to get us in with a better OC 

Wilson gets in if his D isn’t decimated by injuries 

Big Ben is in if they don’t overlook the Jags for NE and actually come to play in first half 

Brady still in 

 

Order will be restored next year with the top QBs making it in (though those top QBs could include Wentz and Garoppolo next year) 

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On 1/14/2018 at 9:02 PM, WhenFalconsWin said:

Not so sure he gets by that Jags defense?

Pittsburgh put up 42 points. Compared to the Steelers, the Patriots have a better rushing attack, a better passing attack, a better (and smarter) QB, score more point/game, allow fewer points/game, are focused on the Jags (not who they'll be playing in MN), no one grousing about contracts, sitting out, retiring, no one trash talking, a coaching staff that can adjust on offense and defense, a head coach that prepares for every possibility, understands clock management and situational football, and doesn't poop his pants in big games.

Not sayin' NE will will... Just sayin'...

 

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