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Just now, caver50 said:

Just pulling your leg a little.

Nah man I'm agreeing with you a good runner will do that my thing is though in some of that footage I watched I was like omg that's just bad lol.

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Just now, kiwifalcon said:

Nah man I'm agreeing with you a good runner will do that my thing is though in some of that footage I watched I was like omg that's just bad lol.

your right

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On 1/15/2018 at 1:16 PM, Falconsfan567 said:

So you rather have 1 sure thing over 2 sure things?

I don't believe there is a sure thing in the draft. I think you could argue both ways though. Quantity, especially in rounds 2-4 would be my preference. And if you lean toward the top "brand name" schools, you're odds of finding quality would definitely go up.

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53 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said:

I don't see anything from him that makes me say "wow". Le'Veon Bell made me say wow. Jay Ajayi made me say wow. 

He could be good in the NFL but I wouldn't get excited. @Knight of God knows my dudes this year is Kallen Ballage.

Harris is definitely wow

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2 hours ago, caver50 said:

Julio

 

1 hour ago, caver50 said:

A good runner always brings that out..lol

Exactly. Freeman has made Kuekly (sp) look stupid at times as well. I like acceleration over top flight speed, vision over power, and the ability to cut on a dime is key to the zone running scheme. Coleman is your classic one cut and up zone scheme rb, and Freeman is a guy that rarely goes down on first contact. Freeman is a very special talent, absolutely elite rb/wr. If he had top flight speed he would be by far the best back in the league.

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1 hour ago, celtiksage said:

I don't believe there is a sure thing in the draft. I think you could argue both ways though. Quantity, especially in rounds 2-4 would be my preference. And if you lean toward the top "brand name" schools, you're odds of finding quality would definitely go up.

I agree. The Pats always seem to be a move back and grab as many top 60 picks as possible. I'd rather have 4 picks between 30-60 than one pick in the top ten. I like to pick players that fall for reasons like height, or weight. Grady Jarrett is a 2nd round pick if he was 3 inches taller. D. Jones is a first rnd pick (top 20) if he were 10 pounds heavier. For the same reason I like to draft small school players that absolutely dominate. Hardy is getting better, since he didn't run traditional routes in college. He held the record for receiving yards in his conference when drafted. He's becoming a reliable possession wr. Roddy White came from UAB.

Football players are football players no matter where they play. However I am not a fan of one year wonders that come out as juniors. Having a big senior season can be explained by coming into your frame, but guys that do nothing for two years then have a big stat season (JA98), I don't like. I love the idea of grabbing guys that played together in college well. For example grabbing Neal then Poole as a FA was brilliant. If we could have a draft close to that again we will dominate for years. 

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1 hour ago, celtiksage said:

I don't believe there is a sure thing in the draft. I think you could argue both ways though. Quantity, especially in rounds 2-4 would be my preference. And if you lean toward the top "brand name" schools, you're odds of finding quality would definitely go up.

This^. No such thing as a sure thing. Also if you mortgage the farm for one player and they are injury prone like Sam Baker, Willy Mo, Weatherspoon then you really Eff yourself. If Julio wasn't the best athlete to play wr I would include him, but he's like Bo Jackson. When healthy you cannot stop him. Not saying that we lost anything trading up for Weatherspoon or Willy Mo, but we did by moving back into the first to pick up Baker in 08.

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On 1/15/2018 at 10:38 PM, Falconsfan567 said:

Look at the amount of money the Falcons have tied up in the DL. Look at the ages of the players. The only young guys we've got are Takk, Beasley and Jarrett. Here's the ages of the guys on the team and their 2018 age.

  • Ahtyba Rubin = 32
  • Brooks Reed = 31
  • Adrian Clayborn = 30
  • Jack Crawford = 30
  • Joe Vellano = 30
  • Derrick Shelby = 29
  • Courtney Upshaw = 28

That's not even talking about their salaries and the cap hits moving forward. I'm just saying, it would be nice to start developing the next wave of talent at the DL. One of the reasons the Giants had a dominant pass rush for years was that they developed a line of talent so that when older guys left they had younger guys on the team to replace them.

This is worth noting but DT isn't like rb where you hit a wall at 30. I really want to see Crawford come back and play at 100%. I had a feeling he was going to ball out. I have no problem with bringing in DT but not at the expense of ignoring the interior Oline anymore. We have ignored that unit (with exception of Mack and an overpaid Levitre). The Levitre move was still a great move that helped both teams. Titans overpaid a guy that isn;t a power scheme guard and we were desperate. I understand that you CAN find OG in the 3rd-6th rounds in a zone blocking scheme (due to the fact that less teams run it), however if we could find a dominate RG, we could score 25+ with Sark. Losing Chester, and Patty D were big losses that we didn't do a good job at replacing.

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13 hours ago, Yo_Lover said:

Ok went back and looked some more I see the power but didn't see many instances of it, it was a small sample size but I was impressed.

What I liked most was his vision and change of direction. Man could cut a perfect edge on the turf if he wanted to. 

His jump cuts were quick and smooth too. He doesn't hesitate. He knows where he wants to go and he gets there.

Now we're talking!! Dude is going to be a beast in the NFL if he wants it bad enough. All the talent and instincts in the world.

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10 hours ago, ATLSlobberKnockers said:

This is worth noting but DT isn't like rb where you hit a wall at 30. I really want to see Crawford come back and play at 100%. I had a feeling he was going to ball out. I have no problem with bringing in DT but not at the expense of ignoring the interior Oline anymore. We have ignored that unit (with exception of Mack and an overpaid Levitre). The Levitre move was still a great move that helped both teams. Titans overpaid a guy that isn;t a power scheme guard and we were desperate. I understand that you CAN find OG in the 3rd-6th rounds in a zone blocking scheme (due to the fact that less teams run it), however if we could find a dominate RG, we could score 25+ with Sark. Losing Chester, and Patty D were big losses that we didn't do a good job at replacing.

I know that. But we can't continue to pay all those guys big money. We've got an awful lot of money tied up in DL. We need to get some younger talent waiting in the wings. Look at the Patriots. How do they continue to win 10 plus games every year? It's because they've got an endless supply of talent. They lose one guy and the next guy steps in and they don't miss a beat. That is what I want to see in Atlanta.

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