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7 hours ago, Sun Tzu 7 said:

THats right coaching doesn’t matter.

Just look at the Rams. Coaching didn’t make a huge difference for them.

Lets just keep Sark and wonder why nothing’s changed...

Don’t forget the change in our own defense last season when Quinn took playcalling away from Smith. All of a sudden the guys that looked like crap with Smith calling the plays ended up playibg really well in a string of games that helped get us to the Super Bowl.

Before that, everybody on her wanted to cut Alford and every other player on the defense they could find. 

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It is Sark’s fault. He is not 100% to blame that is correct but.... he deserves the majority of the blame and he has reduced our Ferrari offense to a laughing stock that struggles to even score 20 points and when we do actually manage to score 20 usually it because of multiple Matt Bryant FG’s not TD’s

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I have to wonder if folks think the patriots are still successful without Belichick? 

The answer is no by the way. Atlanta proved last year and several years before that they have the offensive personnel. What can upset the whole apple cart though is some guy plugging in an elementary style offense that defenders learned to defence back in their Jr high playing days.

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8 hours ago, DogIsYourName said:

Sark may not be Kyle Shanahan, but he's also not the reason we fell short in the playoffs and lost today. 

 

You can bring up that one particular series all you want, but none of that has anything to do with the series of calls he made when the game mattered most. When you have a 10 year veteran at QB, with an MVP under his belt, give him a chance to make a play. That last series were some of the worst calls I had ever seen. You can try all day, but truth is they're inexcusable.

You bring up dropped passes like we were the only ones who had them. I can think of at least 3 Philly dropped passes off the top of my head that would've easily went for first downs. That's not an excuse. Nice try, but that's not gonna fly this time.

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8 hours ago, DogIsYourName said:

Sark may not be Kyle Shanahan, but he's also not the reason we fell short in the playoffs and lost today.  The same combination of mistakes that haunted us all year haunted us again.  Drops that would've been first downs or TDs and shaky interior pass protection are the things that hurt the most.  The 4th and goal call should've worked - Julio was matched up on a short defender and all we had to do was throw it up.  But Julio still needs to not fall down and then catch the ball when it goes right through his hands.

Let me walk you through a three-play sequence:

1st and 10: Play action pass.  Freeman completely whiffs on the blitzing defender, who sacks Matt for a 10 yard loss.  That's not on Sark.

2nd and 20: Julio breaks on a deep out and Matt anticipates and throws a perfect strike at the sticks, but it goes right through Julio's hands.  That's not on Sark - if anything Sark's call should've worked.

3rd and 20: whoehat do you think Sark can call here?

The bottom line is our guys did not have the magic we had last year, but we still had a scrappy team.  It'd be more a problem to change OC's at this point then to give Sark another year with these guys.  But we need WRs who can catch the ball.  When Nick Williams is wide open and gets hit in the chest for a first down, he must catch it.  When Ryan hits Sanu with a perfect throw into the endzone in traffic, Sanu must catch it.  I mean probably had 5 drops today in one game.  You can't do that and win in the playoffs - especially when you are losing the battle in the trenches.

 

his playcalling is terrible hate to break it to yo buddy, just brutal overall

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22 minutes ago, Dirtybird56 said:

One thing I will say is our receiving unit, including TE’s, is overrated. Saw that sh*t heading into the season 

 

what we have behind Julio doesn’t cut it

last year it was great especailly taylor so I disagree, sanu is a monster I will say we can use an athletic tight end

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8 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

We also had Robinson last season he caught a few deep balls.  We didn't do much with the long ball this season.  

We didn't try the long ball when we were in great weather or a dome then suddenly we were in bad weather yesterday and we tried them a few times to no success largely due to the wind.

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8 hours ago, WornOutFalconFan said:

We suck in the red zone. Plain and simple. Whose fault is that? Is it play calling? Is it execution? I'm not sure but either way we suck in the red zone.

Last year we scored points to win games this year we didn't score points but the defense held. Why oh why can't we have a team that score points and the defense holds? Until then we will not win a championship.

We all saw those last 4 plays in the redzone...its obvious what the problem is. 

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39 minutes ago, Dirtybird56 said:

One thing I will say is our receiving unit, including TE’s, is overrated. Saw that sh*t heading into the season 

 

what we have behind Julio doesn’t cut it

Sanu is still a great #2 receiver option.  Gabriel had been a good option but was definitely underutilized.  Hardy also has his moments but never gets targeted except when Julio is off the field.  Meanwhile, our best preseason WR Reggie Davis totally disappeared on the practice squad even after we got him back.  As for Hooper, Ryan clearly does not like throwing to him like he did Casillas or even Tamme.

The problem in 2017-18 vs. 2016-17 is that we totally took the RB's out of the picture as receivers.  Teams worried last season about covering our RB's which led to our WR's and TE's being more open.  Instead in this year, the RB's were more important for staying in for pass-blocking.  Then, even in plays where Freeman or Tevin would actually go and line up on the line for an empty backfield, it seemed they rarely would be the targets.

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1 hour ago, Vandy said:

Gotta upgrade at OG position. Plilly’s DL dominated them yesterday.

you guys whining about Sark are missing the bigger picture.

They did some good things but philly got too much pressure inside....hence the roll out to give Ryan an unobstructed view.

That is what the window lickers here keep forgetting when they use their vast knowledge of madden to say "well you  cut of half of the field"

You know what else cuts off half of the field???? Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox in Matt's face all most immediately after the ball is snapped.

 

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1 hour ago, Vandy said:

Gotta upgrade at OG position. Plilly’s DL dominated them yesterday.

you guys whining about Sark are missing the bigger picture.

Do we need Pro Bowl talent at every offensive position for Sark to get the offense in sync?

“Matt Ryan went 1-of-18 (6%) on passes to Julio Jones in the end zone this season” according to ESPN Stats and Information.

“The Falcons did an impossibly poor job getting Jones uncontested looks in the end zone, and while it’s never going to be easy to get a #1 receiver who is a magnet for coverage open, there are still ways to make favorable things happen when you have a chance to score by spreading your guys out, putting Julio in motion, and utilizing play action. Atlanta just wasn’t able to do any of that well, and on the last play of their season, they cut off half the field so Ryan could try to hit Julio in one-on-one coverage in a move just about every Eagles player claimed they saw coming.”

 

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Facts are facts, Sarkisukian is in over his head. Offense is impotent in the RZ and can't score, we are horrible against zone defenses because of route combos, and that play call where he has DF blocking from the opposite side of the field is horrible. Enough excuses, Steve Sark is not a pro ready coach and won't ever be. Shanny had a plan for the offense and knew exactly which players for his system fit best and how to play them to their strength. Every offensive player we drafted under sarkisian has been God d@mn horrible. Save this ship before it sinks.

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2 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Do we need Pro Bowl talent at every offensive position for Sark to get the offense in sync?

“Matt Ryan went 1-of-18 (6%) on passes to Julio Jones in the end zone this season” according to ESPN Stats and Information.

“The Falcons did an impossibly poor job getting Jones uncontested looks in the end zone, and while it’s never going to be easy to get a #1 receiver who is a magnet for coverage open, there are still ways to make favorable things happen when you have a chance to score by spreading your guys out, putting Julio in motion, and utilizing play action. Atlanta just wasn’t able to do any of that well, and on the last play of their season, they cut off half the field so Ryan could try to hit Julio in one-on-one coverage in a move just about every Eagles player claimed they saw coming.”

 

Now you’re just being silly. We currently have backup talent starting at OG. Let’s just find some competence there before going crazy talking about having to have pro-Bowl at every position. 

And again, I would like to see a Joker TE in this offense. 

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7 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

They did some good things but philly got too much pressure inside....hence the roll out to give Ryan an unobstructed view.

That is what the window lickers here keep forgetting when they use their vast knowledge of madden to say "well you  cut of half of the field"

You know what else cuts off half of the field???? Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox in Matt's face all most immediately after the ball is snapped.

 

All game long man, they whooped us up front. 

I’m definetely wanting to see some offseason upgrades at both OG positions. 

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Even though we had deficiencies at guard you still have to design plays to compensate or you go out and get guys who can execute. At the end of the day this is coaching. Sark was not ready to run this offense efficiently and we don't know if it was him trying to use Shanny's stuff or him wanting to incorporate his own but something has to become clear this off-season. Players have to execute no doubt but you have to put them in situations to succeed.

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17 minutes ago, AtlantaFalconPokerPro said:

Shanahan looked awful his first year. The second year was much better. I don't trust any of them to get the job done though. We're gonna waste Julios as Matt's prime years barely keeping our head above water.

Shanny didn't have talent to work with. Sarkisukian has an embarassment of riches.

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