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A Very Special Thank you to Steve Sarkisian

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Earlier this year, Matt Ryan’s historic streak of games with at least 200 yards passing came to a screeching halt. It was sad to see the streak go, but hey, the Falcons still win, so it wasn’t anything we were particularly bummed about.

Losing a 28 game passing touchdown streak while losing to the Vikings, though? That stings.

That’s exactly what happened Sunday against Minnesota, as Ryan and this offense put together one of their most inept performances of the entire season, aided significantly by Minnesota’s excellence. Ryan had a few inaccurate throws, there were at least two drops, and the Vikings played lockdown coverage, and the result was that Ryan put up under 200 yards and did not manage a passing touchdown. That put the final nail in his MVP case—not that he had much of a shot at it--and it leaves the Falcons badly needing wins over the last four weeks.

At the end of the day, streaks are great for individual players and those of us who have to write about it, but the Falcons would certainly take a win streak over that right now. Hopefully they can start a new one on Thursday night.

https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2017/12/3/16731314/matt-ryans-streak-of-consecutive-games-with-a-touchdown-pass-ends-at-28

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2 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Pretty sure Ryan was under 200 yards again.  But he was very average today so that’s on him.

Shanahan schemed guys open.  Sark just runs the offense I guess.....

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4 minutes ago, lostnmexico said:

Shanahan schemed guys open.  Sark just runs the offense I guess.....

Sark is not a seasoned playcaller like Shanny; however, the calls seemed good today.  We moved the ball effectively.  Problem was once again we were sloppy.  Several drive killing penalties.  We just haven’t played clean this year. And some of that blame does go on Sark.

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4 minutes ago, sandtrap said:

Don't blame Sark for this one. Plays were out there to be made and guys didn't execute. Ryan had an off day you can't blame Sark for that. 

Why not?  Is he not the offensive coordinator?

Did not both streaks end on his watch?

Did he not inherit basically the same group that formed one of the most prolific offenses in the history of the game last year?

Just thanking him for not continuing the same offense we ran under Shanahan

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4 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Sark is not a seasoned playcaller like Shanny; however, the calls seemed good today.  We moved the ball effectively.  Problem was once again we were sloppy.  Several drive killing penalties.  We just haven’t played clean this year. And some of that blame does go on Sark.

Isn't it the job of the coordinator to get the guys ready to play?

Isn't it up to the coaches to teach guys how to elimnate costly penalties?

BOTTOM LINE:  This offense was ill prepared to play and much less beat Minnesota today.

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1 minute ago, lostnmexico said:

Why not?  Is he not the offensive coordinator?

Did not both streaks end on his watch?

Did he not inherit basically the same group that formed one of the most prolific offenses in the history of the game last year?

Just thanking him for not continuing the same offense we ran under Shanahan

He is the offensive coordinator but he doesn't throw, catch or run with the ball. The players were out there to be made. Guys didn't execute. Ryan missed throws and even some of the throws he made could've resulted in much better chunk yards if he put the ball in a better spot than he did. Sark made adjustments but if the players don't execute ultimately there's nothing a coordinator can do. 

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Just now, lostnmexico said:

Isn't it the job of the coordinator to get the guys ready to play?

Isn't it up to the coaches to teach guys how to elimnate costly penalties?

I agree..It’s Sark’s offense so when it plays great he gets the credit and when it’s undisciplined he gets the blame.

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5 minutes ago, sandtrap said:

He is the offensive coordinator but he doesn't throw, catch or run with the ball. The players were out there to be made. Guys didn't execute. Ryan missed throws and even some of the throws he made could've resulted in much better chunk yards if he put the ball in a better spot than he did. Sark made adjustments but if the players don't execute ultimately there's nothing a coordinator can do. 

Wrong Amigo.  All of our offensive woes can be attributed to our offensive line not being able to handle a quality defensive front which has been a recurring theme all year.  We lost to Buffalo and Miami earlier in the year.  It's Sark's job to have the team ready and they were not.

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3 minutes ago, lostnmexico said:

Isn't it the job of the coordinator to get the guys ready to play?

Isn't it up to the coaches to teach guys how to elimnate costly penalties?

BOTTOM LINE:  This offense was ill prepared to play and much less beat Minnesota today.

The coordinator doesn't get guys ready to play. He creates a scheme and plan of action and it's the players duty to execute it. 

Coaches teach guys not to jump off sides and to not hold. Unfortunately if a player doesn't have discipline it doesn't matter what a coach teaches them and they'll jump offsides or they're grab when they're beaten on a play. 

The coordinators got it right. Literally the only gripe I have with the coaching staff is we seemed to have some success with the TE and seemed to get away from that as the game went on. We still had chances to make plays, the players just didn't. 

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It is sad to know that our offense can play more than Two quarters.

its dilly Dans fault for not beefing up the Oline and hiring Sark

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2 minutes ago, sandtrap said:

The coordinator doesn't get guys ready to play. He creates a scheme and plan of action and it's the players duty to execute it. 

Could it be that his schemes don't work against a quality NFL defensive front where protection is a key point?

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4 minutes ago, lostnmexico said:

Could it be that his schemes don't work against a quality NFL defensive front where protection is a key point?

Had a chance to get going early on a slant to JJ.  Not a great throw but should be caught.

Panthers game both MR and JJ blew td chances.

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15 minutes ago, Mid-Nite-Toker said:

Had a chance to get going early on a slant to JJ.  Not a great throw but should be caught.

Panthers game both MR and JJ blew td chances.

Pressure not only affects QBs amigo.  Sometimes the recievers are not ready for the ball that quick or the route did not have time to fully develop.

Isn't it strange that we have lost against EVERY quality defensive front we have played this year?

Last year we used to screen game to slow down those fronts.  Sark doesn't dig screens but he sure as shooting looves the Toss sweeps and Jet sweeps that aren't as effective against NFL fronts.

That crap Works in the PAC 10 but this league is a step up from the PAC 10.

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4 minutes ago, lostnmexico said:

Could it be that his schemes don't work against a quality NFL defensive front where protection is a key point?

Man did you even watch the game? I counted at least 3 passes (like the first one) where the receiver dropped it or Matt threw a bad pass but the receiver was open.

Too many penalties which forced the offense into 3rd and long and stalled drives in the red zone. The play calling was good today. That 4th down call was brilliant. Players didn't execute, plain and simple. 

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9 minutes ago, JerseyNo12 said:

Man did you even watch the game? I counted at least 3 passes (like the first one) where the receiver dropped it or Matt threw a bad pass but the receiver was open.

Too many penalties which forced the offense into 3rd and long and stalled drives in the red zone. The play calling was good today. That 4th down call was brilliant. Players didn't execute, plain and simple. 

Pressure my Man!  Pressure!  They were not ready to deal with the pressure.  Same thing happened against Chicago, Miami, AND Buffalo!

I am convinced.  You have to put your players in a position to succeed and it all starts with having adequate protection.  Sark has yet to adjust to NFL pressure and that my man is why everything else breaks down.  Not enough protection and not enough done to slow down the pressure!

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Need better play calling on second down. Penalties, drops and bad throws accounted for third and long mainly in the first half. Bad second down play calling caused more of the third and longs in the second half.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Let's not forget some very horrific penalty calls against the Falcons that wiped out good plays. With Ryan struggling to connect with receivers, whether it was a missed throw or a drop, I thought we should have leaned on the run more. We had much more success running the ball than I expected and therefore should have turned to it more. Even Charles Davis pointed out that the Falcons needed to lean more on the run game.

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20 minutes ago, lostnmexico said:

Pressure not only affects QBs amigo.  Sometimes the recievers are not ready for the ball that quick or the route did not have time to fully develop.

Isn't it strange that we have lost against EVERY quality defensive front we have played this year?

Last year we used to screen game to slow down those fronts.  Sark doesn't dig screens but he sure as shooting looves the Toss sweeps and Jet sweeps that aren't as effective against NFL fronts.

That crap Works in the PAC 10 but this league is a step up from the PAC 10.

Seattle says hi.

Also, the Falcons have ran plenty of screens this year.

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4 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said:

Seattle says hi.

Also, the Falcons have ran plenty of screens this year.

successfully run screens? 

screens similar in play design to the screens we ran last year?

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1 minute ago, lostnmexico said:

successfully run screens? 

screens similar in play design to the screens we ran last year?

I didn't say they were successful. Just that they have attempted them, lots of them.

Also, you realize that the scheme is the exact same as last year right? The offensive scheme did not change. That is why Sark got the job. Because he agreed to keep the offensive scheme in place.

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