Falcanuck Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I didn't realize the Falcons had the worst starting field position of any team in the NFL so far this season. I'm not surprised based off of the return performances from Andre Roberts. Not only does he do literally nothing with the ball in his hands, but he is simply not smart. Letting the ball bounce at the 10 with the coverage team behind you to field the ball is dumb. Letting the ball bounce at the 10 with teammates close by, thinking you're making a fair catch is incredibly dumb. The Falcons were inches away from a turnover at their own 10 on the Cowboys' second punt. This happens each and every game now and I am tired of this offense starting from the 1 yard line. It's hard enough already for our out-of-sync offense to move the ball. STs should not be on the list of hindrances. Remove Andre Roberts from these duties (and the team, I may add, since he contributes literally **NOTHING** as a WR) and put someone competent back there. I beg you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Falcon Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Every time he fields a punt I cringe... He either catches in terrible position for no gain or lets it bounce and get fielded on the 1 yard line... I don't know why they can't let Gabriel or even Hardy return them. Both have better hands and just seem to have a higher football IQ than him to be counted on to make a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 We have had a lot of different returners over the years and one ST coach...might not be the returner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Jesus said: We have had a lot of different returners over the years and one ST coach...might not be the returner. I vote we change both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 LMAO at this. Weems got the same treatment the last couple years. Look no further than Keith Armstrong for the 1 yard line starts. I heard Weems in a radio interview say he did what he's instructed to do by Armstong. Roberts has speed but it takes more than that to be a good returner. Weems even in his decline was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 dude started out awesome, I made a post about it and he's been horrible ever since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Andre Roberts could use a rectal craniectomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I miss Weems. Not for the returns, but for the ST tackles and heart he brought. He was a straight warrior on special teams. His presence is missed. Period. He brought a swagger to the team that they sorely miss Armstrong needs to be shown the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Let me try to explain this. First it’s battle of field position. When our defense stops somebody it’s usually beyond the 50 but just out of FG range. This is NOT a good spot to be fielding punts. Devin Hester couldn’t field punts like what we’ve been getting. Second a punter is gonna kick it very high to give the coverage team time to get down field. Lastly if the ball looks to be going in the end zone or around the 10 you let it go. Punters can put spin on a ball so it bounces backwards. It’s not just punt, catch, and run. It’s strategy involved. They are TRYING to pin you deep. So would you rather him field a punt and risk a fumble?? He’s doing what he should deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red falcon Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The minute he muffs one you will be screaming for his head. What do you expect him to do? I dont understand the logic. I guess we have to complain about something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilFuturesTrader19 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Roberts is way better than Weems. He's been put in a tough position because of field position all year. Remember he returned a kickoff for a touchdown against the Jets that was called back. At least he has the speed to take it to the endzone whereas Weems was way too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I just don't understand why he waves for a fair catch and then doesn't catch the ball? WTF dude? He almost makes Adam Jennings look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: Let me try to explain this. First it’s battle of field position. When our defense stops somebody it’s usually beyond the 50 but just out of FG range. This is NOT a good spot to be fielding punts. Devin Hester couldn’t field punts like what we’ve been getting. Second a punter is gonna kick it very high to give the coverage team time to get down field. Lastly if the ball looks to be going in the end zone or around the 10 you let it go. Punters can put spin on a ball so it bounces backwards. It’s not just punt, catch, and run. It’s strategy involved. They are TRYING to pin you deep. So would you rather him field a punt and risk a fumble?? He’s doing what he should deep. Fair catch it. It's better to start at the 10 than the 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Fair catch it. It's better to start at the 10 than the 2. You don’t fair catch at the 5-10. Better off letting it go im for a touch back and start at the 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: I just don't understand why he waves for a fair catch and then doesn't catch the ball? WTF dude? He almost makes Adam Jennings look good. You wave fair catch so the coverage team sees that and maybe they surround you instead of seeking the ball. EVERY punt returner does this. I get y’all are frustrated but it’s more than just not catching the ball. I guarantee if the defense starTD getting stops on the other side of the 50 we’ll get better field position. None of you complain when Bosher does the same thing to opposing teams. We do the same things bro. It’s called battle of field position. After last year teams want us starting from the WORST possible field position with the offense we’re supposed to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precyse Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Fair catch it. It's better to start at the 10 than the 2. Isn't that what Weems tried to do in the Superbowl? And f'd up our field position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Fair catch it. It's better to start at the 10 than the 2. Much better if the coverage team is already behind you running a blockade on the goal line to down it at that 1. You let the ball go inside the 10 hoping it goes in the end zone for a touchback when the the coverage team is still in front of you. Plus you cant not catch the ball because you’re scared of a muff. This is a professional (allegedly) punt returner. He is assumed to be able to actually make the catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay1k2 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 We have the worst starting field position in the league. Someone else can't do better than Roberts? Weren't we one of the better teams last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, JDaveG said: Andre Roberts could use a rectal craniectomy. Intestinal Frontal Lobe Extraction? Anal lobotomy? Cranial colostomy? Neurological sphinctoidotomy? I agree, and for his sake I think most healthcare plans cover these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The average starting positions goes beyond Roberts. It's partly the offenses fault when they go 3&out but also when the D isn't making a stop early in a drive or failing to create turnovers (see INTs negated by 3 penalties already this year, one today would've put us starting in DAL territory...how's that for average starting position?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: Let me try to explain this. First it’s battle of field position. When our defense stops somebody it’s usually beyond the 50 but just out of FG range. This is NOT a good spot to be fielding punts. Devin Hester couldn’t field punts like what we’ve been getting. Second a punter is gonna kick it very high to give the coverage team time to get down field. Lastly if the ball looks to be going in the end zone or around the 10 you let it go. Punters can put spin on a ball so it bounces backwards. It’s not just punt, catch, and run. It’s strategy involved. They are TRYING to pin you deep. So would you rather him field a punt and risk a fumble?? He’s doing what he should deep. I understand you know football. So do I. There is no chance in **** the right thing to do is to stand on the 10, pretend you're fair catching the ball, let the coverage team run behind you without blocking them, let the ball land on the 10 and allow the coverage team to field the ball. If the coverage team ISN'T in position to down the ball, then yes, let it go. But BOTH times today Roberts let the ball bounce in terrible situations. You catch it at the 10 there. Especially if your teammates are close by and could have the ball hit them. Roberts has been horrendous and so has Keith Armstrong for as long as I can remember. The Falcons need to revamp STs in the offseason completely, minus Bosher and Bryant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, slimjim said: The average starting positions goes beyond Roberts. It's partly the offenses fault when they go 3&out but also when the D isn't making a stop early in a drive or failing to create turnovers (see INTs negated by 3 penalties already this year, one today would've put us starting in DAL territory...how's that for average starting position?) You're correct, but it is still a piece of the puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird3 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 He's had his moments also a couple called back cuz of flags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 31 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: You don’t fair catch at the 5-10. Better off letting it go im for a touch back and start at the 25 On punt returns, you'd start at the 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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