Execution Execution Execution

[Xfactor]

Just about everyone on this board points to execution of plays as THE major problem with this team and I agree the big question is why ? 

I believe it started with the coaching staff in training camp.

IMO the execution issues started with simplifying the offense. Shanahan ran a complex WCO offense that had everyone out of their comfort zone. A huge reason why they sucked in year one. Everyone from tackle to receiver even Ryan couldnt grasp it.

As they learned the scheme, routes, shifts and timing they became a well oiled machine. Because it was hard the players had to prepare mentally like they never had before. If you ask the players they would probably tell you it was like finals every week and they were mentally as well as physically exhausted until it clicked the result a SB appearance Ryan wins MVP.

Now with basically the same players we can’t block, throw, run or catch ? Not buying it.

Sark has dumbed down this offense so much the players don’t have to think and are playing like it.

The other problem is this offense isnt fooling any defenses and our players aren’t prepared and the lack of execution is born. Now bring in human emotions to the equation and you have a big problem momentum is huge in sports good or bad.

If we have a bad game it’s on the players if we have 8 bad games it’s on the system and the coaches.

 

 

 

 

 

[octoslash]

I think one possibility is that everyone on the team figured, like so many fans, that they

could simply just take the field and they'd win every game. 

The latter half of last year, all that domination (minus the final 4 super bowl minutes) went to their heads and stayed there.  Then this season came and slapped them in the face, and now they don't know how to shake the fact that in the NFL you can't ever assume you're better than your opponent. 

[Xfactor]

Absolutely they came in confident probably overconfident plus take away the secret sauce and you will get exposed. I can’t for the life of me understand how Quinn and company thought running a dumbed down vanilla offense would be successful. It’s not even close to what Shanahan was running

[[Mod approved name]]

7 minutes ago, octoslash said:

I think one possibility is that everyone on the team figured, like so many fans, that they

could simply just take the field and they'd win every game. 

The latter half of last year, all that domination (minus the final 4 super bowl minutes) went to their heads and stayed there.  Then this season came and slapped them in the face, and now they don't know how to shake the fact that in the NFL you can't ever assume you're better than your opponent. 

I think that's possible. It's also possible that the players are lethargic as well. Mentally they don't seem right.

But I wonder, given how the offense seems to change week by week, if they are a bit out of sync because they haven't practiced certain plays enough so they haven't had enough chemistry yet

Edited November 11, 2017 by Yadi

[FalconsIn2012]

36 minutes ago, octoslash said:

I think one possibility is that everyone on the team figured, like so many fans, that they

could simply just take the field and they'd win every game. 

The latter half of last year, all that domination (minus the final 4 super bowl minutes) went to their heads and stayed there.  Then this season came and slapped them in the face, and now they don't know how to shake the fact that in the NFL you can't ever assume you're better than your opponent. 

That plays a part I suspect.  This Mularkey quote from his time as our OC is also telling:

"I went to Miami (in 2006) thinking I was expected to run (former Dolphins offensive coordinator) Scott Linehan's offense, use the same terminology and succeed. I've seen other coaches try to do that and fail. I said I would not fail, and I did. It's hard to explain to people. As hard as you want to try, if it's not your philosophy, you can't just call a game."

Edited November 11, 2017 by Falconsin2012

[Xfactor]

7 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

That plays a part I suspect.  This Mularkey quote from his time as our OC is more likely why the offense has sputtered at times.

“My experience in Miami, I'm not going to say it was bad, but I was attempting to call and run other people's offenses that I didn't have familiarity with," Mularkey explained. "This (in Atlanta) is the one I used in Pittsburgh and Buffalo. It's nice to have some common things back. The coaching staff picked right up on it, which was the biggest thing.

"I went to Miami (in 2006) thinking I was expected to run (former Dolphins offensive coordinator) Scott Linehan's offense, use the same terminology and succeed. I've seen other coaches try to do that and fail. I said I would not fail, and I did. It's hard to explain to people. As hard as you want to try, if it's not your philosophy, you can't just call a game."

Great find and explains a lot

[crimsonhawk]

4 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said:

That plays a part I suspect.  This Mularkey quote from his time as our OC is also telling:

"I went to Miami (in 2006) thinking I was expected to run (former Dolphins offensive coordinator) Scott Linehan's offense, use the same terminology and succeed. I've seen other coaches try to do that and fail. I said I would not fail, and I did. It's hard to explain to people. As hard as you want to try, if it's not your philosophy, you can't just call a game."

Anyone who actually thought it was going to be "business as usual" after Shanny left was kidding themselves.

[Malachore]

When are people going to realize that it wasn't Shanahan's Playbook it was his mind that made this offense.

[Osiruz]

Unless our OC is excuted I don't see this offense going nowhere . I kid I kid.

But seriously, Sark if you are reading this you need to get the ball to Coleman and Freeman a lot more. Especially on screens, and don' be afraid to use Coleman in the slot.

[octoslash]

1 hour ago, osiruz said:

Unless our OC is excuted I don't see this offense going nowhere . I kid I kid.

But seriously, Sark if you are reading this you need to get the ball to Coleman and Freeman a lot more. Especially on screens, and don' be afraid to use Coleman in the slot.

I totally agree about getting the ball to 'Tevonta' a lot more.  With Ryan playing average and the receivers struggling, your two best weapons are being largely ignored.  Go with them and let the chips fall.

I keep thinking back to last year's game in Denver, when the Falcons just diced and pulverized the Broncos

by doing just that.  

[falcndave]

8 hours ago, Xfactor said:

Just about everyone on this board points to execution of plays as THE major problem with this team and I agree the big question is why ? 

I believe it started with the coaching staff in training camp.

IMO the execution issues started with simplifying the offense. Shanahan ran a complex WCO offense that had everyone out of their comfort zone. A huge reason why they sucked in year one. Everyone from tackle to receiver even Ryan couldnt grasp it.

As they learned the scheme, routes, shifts and timing they became a well oiled machine. Because it was hard the players had to prepare mentally like they never had before. If you ask the players they would probably tell you it was like finals every week and they were mentally as well as physically exhausted until it clicked the result a SB appearance Ryan wins MVP.

Now with basically the same players we can’t block, throw, run or catch ? Not buying it.

Sark has dumbed down this offense so much the players don’t have to think and are playing like it.

The other problem is this offense isnt fooling any defenses and our players aren’t prepared and the lack of execution is born. Now bring in human emotions to the equation and you have a big problem momentum is huge in sports good or bad.

If we have a bad game it’s on the players if we have 8 bad games it’s on the system and the coaches.

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with the "execution" theme. However, while I have no problem with your theory, I think we may all be over-complicating it. When I yell about execution I'm way down on the simplest level. Not holding on the side of the formation away from the play to kill a first down. Not running out of bounds for 15 yards with no attempt to get back in to set the receiving team up at the 50. Dropping passes that are their to be had. Not making the correct read on a pass pattern. Failing to control you gap on defense because of hero on a mission syndrome. Lining up in the neutral zone. The list goes on and on. 

While I tend to agree with what you are saying, it wouldn't matter if we were taking care of just executing the freakin' fundamentals. If we do that tomorrow...we will learn that everyone who jumped off the bridge last Sunday was able to swim ashore and make it safely back to the bandwagon. "IF." 

[Jesus]

Falcons need to be like the state of Texas and execute.

[E. T.]

This is where I think the team is, if this makes sense.....

Stupid execution of a play is one thing, Execution of a stupid play is another.

[atlndvd]

Sometimes I think Sark just says “you guys go run around the field and Matt will look around and throw it to someone, try to catch it if thats you”

[Wjcorner]

Sometimes I think some of you guys know literally jack sh!t about football

[putnam6]

14 hours ago, atlndvd said:

Sometimes I think Sark just says “you guys go run around the field and Matt will look around and throw it to someone, try to catch it if thats you”

Quinn discusses with Sarkisian about his play calling

 

[kiwifalcon]

On 11/12/2017 at 5:13 AM, Falconsin2012 said:

That plays a part I suspect.  This Mularkey quote from his time as our OC is also telling:

"I went to Miami (in 2006) thinking I was expected to run (former Dolphins offensive coordinator) Scott Linehan's offense, use the same terminology and succeed. I've seen other coaches try to do that and fail. I said I would not fail, and I did. It's hard to explain to people. As hard as you want to try, if it's not your philosophy, you can't just call a game."

You mentioned this in another thread it's not just the offense when we talk execution.We need to do it across the board complimentary football.Its know use the offense firing and STs give away cheap field position or the defense giving away mindless penalties.

At some point in time all 3 phases have to sync or our whole season is going to be a what could have been.Talent wise we are as good as any team in the league but players and coaches need to be able to put it out on the field to thats it in the simple basket if you ask me.