mattyicefalcon Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Freeman ....you words I want to punish everyone when I run (who got punished - Fans? ) I wont be denied (we cant get 1 yard in pivotal moments of game) Everygame we approach will be like superbowl match. (Technically, we lost 5 Superbowls this year...how many more Lombardis you wanna drop? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Agreed !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Hard for a running back to punish a defense when he's only getting 11 carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Hard for a running back to punish a defense when he's only getting 11 carries. Only talking about carries hes responsible in short yardage situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 he is averaging over 5 yards per carry since the bye, but in the last four games he is averaging 11 carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, birdz4i said: he is averaging over 5 yards per carry since the bye, but in the last four games he is averaging 11 carries. If he needs to act like Antonio Brown and call everyone out up infront office....Im ok with it. Because, look what happened to Steelers after....and Matt Forte (Jets) after he called out obvious play calling mis management. DAN QUINNS message on walls - " When you run, good things happen " We running away from run game for sure!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, mattyicefalcon said: Only talking about carries hes responsible in short yardage situations. Not when his offensive line is blocking like defensive linemen are coated in butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Not when his offensive line is blocking like defensive linemen are coated in butter. 1 yard mate? Especially, you call yourself the elite back in league ....do you really believe its hard for Eliott, Ingram, Gordon, Gurley to name few to be denied at short yardage situations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, mattyicefalcon said: 1 yard mate? Especially, you call yourself the elite back in league ....do you really believe its hard for Eliott, Ingram, Gordon, Gurley to name few to be denied at short yardage situations? None of them get anything with defensive linemen hit them in the backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: None of them get anything with defensive linemen hit them in the backfield. I thought Coleman was suppose to reincarnate as Patrick Dimarco. I was sooo freakin livid when they let Dimarco walk away...he was absolute beast & cornerstone in our running game. DAN QUINN needs to be slapped!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, mattyicefalcon said: 1 yard mate? Especially, you call yourself the elite back in league ....do you really believe its hard for Eliott, Ingram, Gordon, Gurley to name few to be denied at short yardage situations? See last year's version of Gurley if you want an answer to that. A back can't do it all if they aren't getting help in those situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 One of the toughest, most physical runners I have ever seen. Anyone rememeber how this one ended? 4th and inches... 240lbs. running back needing inches in overtime to keep a drive alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, PK Manley said: See last year's version of Gurley if you want an answer to that. A back can't do it all if they aren't getting help in those situations. Who put him in that situation? Then why make bold predictions before the season and games? Time to back it up....walk the talk or just stay mum. Letting Dimarco go - was one the biggest crimes Dan Quinn has made especially knowing Sark was raw in play calling and he needed core pieces to execute the play calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, mattyicefalcon said: Who put him in that situation? Then why make bold predictions before the season and games? Time to back it up....walk the talk or just stay mum. Letting Dimarco go - was one the biggest crimes Dan Quinn has made especially knowing Sark was raw in play calling and he needed core pieces to execute the play calling. I have no idea what any of this has to do with what I said, so I'll leave you to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 43 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Hard for a running back to punish a defense when he's only getting 11 carries. Well - I hate to keep doing this - but comparing to first 8 games last year 2016 - Total rushes = 116 (high 23 Den, Low 11 GB/TB) Average Rushes = 14.5 per game Total Yards = 543 (high 152 NO, low 20 TB) Yards per carry = 4.7 TD = 3 2017 - Total rushes = 114 (high 21 Det, Low 9 Mia) Average Rushes = 14.3 per game Total Yards = 512 (high 106 Det, low 37 Chi) Yards per carry = 4.5 TD = 5 Now - look at the receiving for Freeman compared to last year 2016 - 34 targets, 26 rec, (76.5%) 192 yards, 7.4 yds per rec. 2 TD 2017 - 24 targets 19 receptions ( 79.2%) 137 yards 7.2 yds per rec 0 TD Seems like we aren't using our RBs in the receiving game as much. I think that's partly because of the line - they've had to help with the blocking more - and partly because of game plan - which may have a lot to do with the line as well. His rush attempts are almost the same, yards are pretty close and he has more TD this year in the run game - but his targets, receptions and TD are all way down from last year in the pass game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Tandy said: Well - I hate to keep doing this - but comparing to first 8 games last year 2016 - Total rushes = 116 (high 23 Den, Low 11 GB/TB) Average Rushes = 14.5 per game Total Yards = 543 (high 152 NO, low 20 TB) Yards per carry = 4.7 TD = 3 2017 - Total rushes = 114 (high 21 Det, Low 9 Mia) Average Rushes = 14.3 per game Total Yards = 512 (high 106 Det, low 37 Chi) Yards per carry = 4.5 TD = 5 Now - look at the receiving for Freeman compared to last year 2016 - 34 targets, 26 rec, (76.5%) 192 yards, 7.4 yds per rec. 2 TD 2017 - 24 targets 19 receptions ( 79.2%) 137 yards 7.2 yds per rec 0 TD Seems like we aren't using our RBs in the receiving game as much. I think that's partly because of the line - they've had to help with the blocking more - and partly because of game plan - which may have a lot to do with the line as well. His rush attempts are almost the same, yards are pretty close and he has more TD this year in the run game - but his targets, receptions and TD are all way down from last year in the pass game. I was really just talking about the Carolina game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: I was really just talking about the Carolina game. Got it. You are correct too - but I wonder how different it might have been if Carolina hadn't taken the lead before the half and then expanded it quickly in the 3rd. Carolina had 2 drives nearly 6 minutes long each in the 3rd quarter and increased their lead. That took away our run game somewhat. 8 of his carries came in the first half. Those final minute interceptions before half always seem to doom us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tandy said: Got it. You are correct too - but I wonder how different it might have been if Carolina hadn't taken the lead before the half and then expanded it quickly in the 3rd. Carolina had 2 drives nearly 6 minutes long each in the 3rd quarter and increased their lead. That took away our run game somewhat. 8 of his carries came in the first half. Those final minute interceptions before half always seem to doom us. If those two scores took away the run then shame on the playcalling. Being down 7 or even 10 points shouldn't move you away from the run. You gotta keep those attempts coming to wear on that defensive line. Miami was down 17-0 and kept right on pounding away. 6 runs to 9 passes on their first drive of the 3rd quarter. And none of the runs were long. It was 3 yards here, 2 yards there. They just kept chipping away. By the 4th quarter Ajayi broke off back-to-back 18 yard runs when they had to have it. You play a defense like Carolina and end the game with 18 rushes to 38 passes then you probably played right into their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: If those two scores took away the run then shame on the playcalling. Being down 7 or even 10 points shouldn't move you away from the run. You gotta keep those attempts coming to wear on that defensive line. Miami was down 17-0 and kept right on pounding away. 6 runs to 9 passes on their first drive of the 3rd quarter. And none of the runs were long. It was 3 yards here, 2 yards there. They just kept chipping away. By the 4th quarter Ajayi broke off back-to-back 18 yard runs when they had to have it. You play a defense like Carolina and end the game with 18 rushes to 38 passes then you probably played right into their hands. That is the right thing to do in most cases - but it takes a very disciplined ability to stick to your game plan when it's not working. Coming off 3 losses and playing a Division Rival who just "once again" wiped out a lead and played ball control with a score at the end of each - I can see exactly how it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Don’t blame Freeman Sanders couldn’t run behind this line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtrap Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Hard for a running back to punish a defense when he's only getting 11 carries. Hard to keep giving someone the ball when your line can't get a push and he's getting stuffed for 2 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Xfactor said: Don’t blame Freeman Sanders couldn’t run behind this line. The thing is - he's running as well this year as last year. Very little down from last year in numbers and up in touchdowns through 8 games. The line is actually built for the run. I'm surprised our QB is functional at all on the other hand. Last year, he was amazing - and the line was ok - but he was still hit A LOT. This year though, the line has been much worse and he's getting slaughtered back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' In DC Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 hours ago, mattyicefalcon said: 1 yard mate? Especially, you call yourself the elite back in league ....do you really believe its hard for Eliott, Ingram, Gordon, Gurley to name few to be denied at short yardage situations? The way our O-Line was blocking on Sunday? YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 hours ago, mattyicefalcon said: Freeman ....you words I want to punish everyone when I run (who got punished - Fans? ) I wont be denied (we cant get 1 yard in pivotal moments of game) Everygame we approach will be like superbowl match. (Technically, we lost 5 Superbowls this year...how many more Lombardis you wanna drop? ) Really? You have the nerve to call out Freeman? Man, you must don't have anything else constructive to do with your time. Just sitting there like: "Hmmm......lets see what kinda of thread I can create today." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomak Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Free got paid, Free has checked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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