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.. Actually doing something. Each week after we have questionable play calling he comes out and say he wants this and this done. Yet he doesn't seem to actually call plays or make sure it's implemented.. As I've said a few times Mccarthy in gb has gone back and forth calling plays. Dq has to take fault in the calls too being im sure he hears the plays being called in the headset. 

 

Sorry for the mini rant but I'm tired of dq having something to say Monday morning after weve lost yet another game we should have won

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Falcons coach Dan Quinn wants a balance on short-yardage play calls

Falcons coach Dan Quinn addressed the team's failure to convert first downs multiple times on short yardage against the Panthers. Grant Halverson/Getty Images

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3:38 PM MT

Vaughn McClureESPN Staff Writer

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- Atlanta Falconscoach Dan Quinn said he wants to maintain an aggressive mentality on offense, but that doesn't necessarily mean looking down the field in every short-yard situation.

In dissecting the film from a 20-17 loss to the Carolina Panthers, Quinn obviously didn't agree with at least one offensive play call in one of those scenarios: a play-action pass on third-and-1 in the third quarter that resulted in Matt Ryan being pressured and throwing an incomplete pass to tight end Austin Hooper. But at the same time, Quinn wasn't overly critical of offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian's decision-making.

"As you went back, that one didn't fire me up as much," Quinn said of the third-and-1 pass, "but the run opportunities to go, that definitely affects you sometimes as a play-caller. You got stuffed twice. You go take a shot at it."

Quinn's reference was to a couple of plays in the second quarter that turned the tide in the loss to the Panthers. The Falcons had the ball first-and-5 at Carolina's 39 and had two opportunities to convert on third-and-1 and fourth-and-1 from the 35-yard line. Both Tevin Coleman and Devonta Freeman got stopped for no gain on those plays.

Based on the film, it appeared tight end Levine Toilolo didn't sustain his block on Mario Addison and left tackle Jake Matthews didn't put enough of a body on Kawann Short on the third-down play, allowing Coleman to get stopped. And on fourth down, fullback Derrick Colemandidn't appear to totally clear out safety Kurt Coleman, who made the play on Freeman.

Quinn didn't single anyone out for committing blunders.

"Obviously there's going to be some type of either technique error or breakdown that doesn't allow you to get the distance that you want," Quinn said. "On both of the runs that came up short on the third-and-1 and fourth-and-1 sequence, both those issues had come up where we either gotten beaten by a play or lost on a technique of play.

"So, as we're going back through it, we're going to go look to see how we can do it different better. But, yeah, they're were definitely issues technique-related."

Quinn revealed going for it on fourth-and-1 had something to do with kicker Matt Bryant aggravating a kicking-leg injury -- possibility related to his calf, although Bryant wouldn't totally confirm -- during pregame warm-ups following the national anthem. Bryant felt well enough to kick a 53-yarder in the first quarter but then didn't feel as confident after the kick. The decision was made to limit Bryant, but Bryant said he felt better after halftime and was well enough to try again from that safe range of 53, if the opportunity would have presented itself in the fourth quarter. The Falcons went for it on fourth-and-7 from the 39 with 8 minutes, 20 seconds remaining, which would have been out of the safe kicking range.

"That contributed to us going for some of the ones that we did as opposed to normally, if Matt's in range, we give him the green light," Quinn said. "We trust him so much."

Even despite Bryant's injury status, one would think the Falcons should feel confident enough to pick up 1 yard on the ground, when needed. If not, such lack of confidence could be a problem for the remainder of the season, with Carolina on the schedule again along with another top run defense in the Minnesota Vikings. Not to mention Dallas and Seattle have the ability to be stout up front, although the numbers might not reflect it.

Blocking often extends beyond the offensive line, but Quinn gave his assessment of his front five going into the second half of the season. He applauded the group's pass protection against the Panthers, but not so much the run-blocking.

"I really trust our group," Quinn said. "We've been good in the run game, and we weren't in (the Carolina) game, in terms of the production that we'd like. But I've got a lot of faith in that group. I really do."

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10 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

What plays do you want DQ to call?

I think we would benefit from more influence from the head coach on both sides of the ball, but more on offense. He himself says we need more of a balance, well if you hear a pass being change it or tell Matt to audible before the mic cuts out. 

 

But clearly short yardage is an issue that he himself doesn't seem to want to try and correct 

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1 hour ago, Malachore said:

Are you saying you want our defensive-minded head coach to call an offensive game plan?

 

58 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said:

So you want him to actually call offensive plays?

Because he's already involved in both sides of the ball and what gets emphasized and how he thinks defenses can be exploited.

I don't care if he's a defensive coach, if you want more balance you can advise your oc to stop with toss cracks or play action or toss' on short yardage. It doesn't seem his influence is getting through 

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1 hour ago, Dirtybird3 said:

I think we would benefit from more influence from the head coach on both sides of the ball, but more on offense. He himself says we need more of a balance, well if you hear a pass being change it or tell Matt to audible before the mic cuts out. 

 

But clearly short yardage is an issue that he himself doesn't seem to want to try and correct 

Quinn is a defensive mind.  You don’t want him calling plays on offense.  It’s why Shanny was such a good hire.  He required little oversight which allowed Quinn to focus on defense. Sark is more of an unknown and on his own.  Quinn bailed out the defense last year once he started calling the defense...that’s not an option for the offense.  It’s Sark or bust

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19 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Quinn is a defensive mind.  You don’t want him calling plays on offense.  It’s why Shanny was such a good hire.  He required little oversight which allowed Quinn to focus on defense. Sark is more of an unknown and on his own.  SHANNAHAN bailed out the defense last year once he started calling the defense...that’s not an option for the offense.  It’s Sark or bust

LMFAO! on Quinn bailing out the defense. That bail went out west, this sorry @$$ defense couldn't bail OJ out in the 90's

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23 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Quinn is a defensive mind.  You don’t want him calling plays on offense.  It’s why Shanny was such a good hire.  He required little oversight which allowed Quinn to focus on defense. Sark is more of an unknown and on his own.  SHANNAHAN bailed out the defense last year once he started calling the defense...that’s not an option for the offense.  It’s Sark or bust

LMFAO! on Quinn bailing out the defense. That bail went out west, this sorry @$$ defense couldn't bail OJ out in the 90's

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You know, I'm hearing a lot about the play calling ---- but, what we were told after the Sarkisian hire, is nothing much was going to change, and that Sark would come in and run basically the same offense, with maybe a few new "wrinkles" of his own inserted here and there.  
Well, since not that much has changed (supposedly), then what's going on?  I mean, at times, Matt Ryan looks as lost as a softball in a hay field, and pretty much everyone around him!  His timing is off with his receivers, for sure, as he continues to over-throw them ---- we continue to make mental mistakes, i.e., holding calls, off sides calls, etc.  All I know is, if we can't get some of this stuff "fixed", and SOON, we won't even sniff the Playoffs this year ---  


   

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9 hours ago, Falconsin2012 said:

Quinn is a defensive mind.  You don’t want him calling plays on offense.  It’s why Shanny was such a good hire.  He required little oversight which allowed Quinn to focus on defense. Sark is more of an unknown and on his own.  Quinn bailed out the defense last year once he started calling the defense...that’s not an option for the offense.  It’s Sark or bust

I still think he can influence the offense more than he does.  whether it's simply demanding a run vs a pass. He doesn't have to call the specific formation or call but saying no to a play action deep pass on a 3rd and one is something a head coach should feel he can veto. That's all I'm saying 

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5 hours ago, Dirtybird3 said:

How many games have we lost besides yesterday lol The point is in the moment he doesn't seem to take control, it's always comments afterwards on what he doesn't like 

It seems like you want the head coach, a defensive-minded head coach to not just tell his coordinator to run or pass, which is normal: "Hey, Sark, we need a run here.  I wanna chew some clock", or "Let's take a shot here, the safety's are creeping up".

That's all normal stuff in the course of the game.  Just about every head coach does that.  But you want him to actually tell what plays to run in what situation.  That is a recipe for distaster.  

As a head coach, you have to empower your play-caller to call the game.  If you have a play-caller that you have to micro-manage on that level then you either need to call all the plays yourself, or fire him and get someone else to call it the way you want.

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