middlegatv Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 By Mark Bradley I look at the Falcons, and I see a poorly coached team 3h ago, November 06, 2017 In his first season as head coach, Jim Mora led the Falcons to an 11-5 record, a division title and the NFC championship game. He was fired two years later, having gone 15-17 since Year 1. In his second season as head coach, Dan Quinn led the Falcons to an 11-5 record, a division title and the NFC championship. In his Year 1 and the first half of Year 3, the Falcons’ record is 12-12. No, the parallels aren’t exact. Quinn took the Falcons to the Super Bowl. (Where a bad thing happened.) Quinn is the franchise’s czar of football, answering only to the oft-photographed owner; Mora answered to general manager Rich McKay. Mora was fired because he and Greg Knapp failed to maximize the talents of Michael Vick. Quinn has already maximized Matt Ryan, though what we’re seeing appears a regression to the mean. Let’s just say it: Quinn is a better coach than Mora. (The latter is about to be fired by UCLA, where he again started well but fizzled.) Quinn has built a team in his fast ‘n’ furious image. But he’s not – let’s be honest about this, too – exactly a chaos-diffuser. His first team started 6-1 and finished 8-8. This year’s team started 3-0 and is 4-4. His best team led the Super Bowl by 25 points and finished second. DQ’s Falcons are world champs at falling apart. The Falcons are widely viewed as the one of the NFL’s most talented teams. Quinn gets credit for this, having overseen the accumulation of much of that talent. But Ryan, last year’s MVP, ranks 13th in both passer rating and ESPN’s Total QBR. Julio Jones ranked first among receivers last season, averaging 100.6 yards per game; this year he’s third, at 82.3. The Falcons ranked fifth in rushing yards per game last season; they’re 13th now. The defense is better, having improved from 25th in yards against to 12th. The Falcons’ 2016 defensive numbers were, however, skewed by a wretched start. From Thanksgiving on, that defense was actually pretty good, at least until everything unraveled on Feb. 5. That was in large part because Quinn took it upon himself to call defensive signals. The two coaches who powered the Super Bowl run are no longer in signaling mode. Kyle Shanahan works in San Francisco; two other offensive assistants left after the season. Quinn has ceded defensive oversight to Marquand Manuel, in his first run as an NFL coordinator. So is Steve Sarkisian, hired to replace Shanahan. Manuel has done OK. Sarkisian has been substandard to the extent that some have suggested that passing game coordinator Raheem Morris should call plays, which might be an option except for this: Until last season, Morris had always been a defensive assistant. Opponents averaged 25.4 points against the 2016 Falcons, which was sixth-worst in the league but didn’t much matter. Those Falcons averaged 33.8 points, seventh-best in NFL annals. Opponents are averaging 21.5 now, which marks an upgrade, and still the Falcons have been outscored on the season. Their offensive yield has dropped to 21.3, which comes to two fewer touchdowns per game, which is the distance between good and mediocre. Since Sept. 24, the Falcons’ point totals are 17, 17, 7, 25 and 17. They’ve averaged 1.8 touchdowns over those five games. In that span, Sarkisian has moved from the sideline to the press box and been urged by Quinn to run the ball more and remember that Julio Jones is at his disposal. The Falcons ran it 18 times for 53 yards, both seasonal lows, in Charlotte on Sunday. Jones mustered 118 yards receiving, his season high, but dropped a touchdown pass. The point being: There’s no mesh to this offense. The Falcons couldn’t run against Carolina but threw for 313 yards, and they generated their usual two touchdowns and 17 points. (Average points over the past five games, four of them losses – 16.6.) Apart from guard Chris Chester, these are the same players. They’re just not doing the same things. Like a teenager in a growth spurt, they’re uncoordinated. Two weeks ago, we mentioned that it was up to Quinn to coach – as opposed to sloganize – his men through this rough patch. Nothing in the halting victory over the Jets suggested a corner being turned, and the loss to Carolina was a double reverse. It saw the Falcons waste yet another double-digit lead, and it happened against a division opponent. With half a season in the bank, they’re back to .500. According to FiveThirtyEight, they have a 14 percent chance to win the division, which carries with it a home playoff game, and a 33 percent chance to reach the postseason. FiveThirtyEight now simulates their season ending with 8.6 wins, which rounded up would mean finishing 9-7, which probably wouldn’t suffice. As much as I expected the Super Bowl collapse to hang over this franchise, I didn’t expect it to be an issue until the playoffs began anew. And I can’t really say I’ve seen much evidence of a Super “malaise” these past five games. I just a see a talented team that’s not very good. I see a team that lost as a heavy home favorite in the game before its bye week and the game after. I see a team that hasn’t scored an offensive touchdown in the third quarter – that’s the one after halftime – this season. I see a poorly coached team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It needs to be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Good. Accurate or not I've always hated that Atlanta media is generally soft on its coaches and stars. It seemed like it was always due to fear of losing access. Even 680 was a bit more critical of Quinn then they've been in the past. Of course, they're not the "official" station so that may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joenoles1 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Can't disagree with Bradley here. Penalties at the most inopportune time shows a team that lacks discipline. That is squarely on Coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronob Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Bradley is spot on. Time for DQ to take over the Defense from Manuel, fire Sark and hire Kubiak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 C'mon Quinn, take yo head outtayourass! I mean WTBFH, I do not want to ever agree with Mark Bradley ever On the other hand, this is all Dimitroffs fault. He signed any and every two bit brokedick coach he could find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Track Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 DQ’s Falcons are world champs at falling apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlegatv Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Seriously, Quinn made one of the dumbest personel moves EVER by bringing in a college coach with zero experience of coordinating at the NFL level to run what WAS one of the greatest offenses in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfishtom Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Bradley hit the nail on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, chronob said: Bradley is spot on. Time for DQ to take over the Defense from Manuel, fire Sark and hire Kubiak. This 1000 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG2008 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Dan Quinn's liklely response to Mark Bradley Well...Mark,,, First of all Ive already won the Superbowl of money. Ive been here 3 years and gotten paid a sh_t pot full of cash. Win Lose or Draw my bank account is getting fiscally fit fast and Yeah that's it..... Fast and Fiscal!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 hours ago, middlegatv said: Seriously, Quinn made one of the dumbest personel moves EVER by bringing in a college coach with zero experience of coordinating at the NFL level to run what WAS one of the greatest offenses in NFL history. Nailed it!! It was a gamble that should have never happened. I don't want Blank to meddle like Jerry Jones, but this was a time when the owner should have vetoed that hire. Should have told Quinn to get a well experienced NFL OC or to promote the assistant we had, who knows the system well and the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, sdogg said: Nailed it!! It was a gamble that should have never happened. I don't want Blank to meddle like Jerry Jones, but this was a time when the owner did have vetoed that hire. Should have told Quinn to get a well experienced NFL OC or to promote the assistant we had, who knows the system well and the players. You can't do that if you're Blank. Your head coach just got you to the super bowl in his 2nd year. He deserves some trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy5prings Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Everybody's got a hot taek. No one has any real answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 54 minutes ago, middlegatv said: No, the parallels aren’t exact. Quinn took the Falcons to the Super Bowl. (Where a bad thing happened.) Quinn is the franchise’s czar of football, answering only to the oft-photographed owner; Mora answered to general manager Rich McKay. Mora was fired because he and Greg Knapp failed to maximize the talents of Michael Vick. Quinn has already maximized Matt Ryan, though what we’re seeing appears a regression to the mean. Was that a little shade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Experienced Sports Writer Cynically Indicts Coaching or Experienced Sports Writer Still Doesnt Understand NFL After Years of Covering It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, middlegatv said: Seriously, Quinn made one of the dumbest personel moves EVER by bringing in a college coach with zero experience of coordinating at the NFL level to run what WAS one of the greatest offenses in NFL history. You need to read more about the league, bruh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 49 minutes ago, Karst41 said: C'mon Quinn, take yo head outtayourass! I mean WTBFH, I do not want to ever agree with Mark Bradley ever On the other hand, this is all Dimitroffs fault. He signed any and every two bit brokedick coach he could find. yep, having to agree with bradley is like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: Experienced Sports Writer Cynically Indicts Coaching or Experienced Sports Writer Still Doesnt Understand NFL After Years of Covering It Well....which one is it??? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, JD dirtybird21 said: Well....which one is it??? LOL I lean toward the latter. But in an age of dwindling newspaper readership, I can't eliminate the former. Hell, they both may be accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: I lean toward the latter. But in an age of dwindling newspaper readership, I can't eliminate the former. ****, they both may be accurate. That's usually what happens when a team is 4-4 after 8 games. Nobody knows what they are and nobody knows what will happen. Nothin's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, middlegatv said: The defense is better, having improved from 25th in yards against to 12th. The Falcons’ 2016 defensive numbers were, however, skewed by a wretched start. From Thanksgiving on, that defense was actually pretty good, at least until everything unraveled on Feb. 5. That was in large part because Quinn took it upon himself to call defensive signals. 2 minutes ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: I lean toward the latter. But in an age of dwindling newspaper readership, I can't eliminate the former. ****, they both may be accurate. Yeah, based on the above quote, I'm going with the latter? And I thought last week's column was a hack job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlegatv Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: You need to read more about the league, bruh. It's one thing to bring in a college coach to an assistant coaching position to start and let them progress up the ladder if they are capable of doing so. It's another to bring a college coach into an important position such as coordinator or head coach. That seems to fail more than it succeeds. Still, it was an incredible, unwarranted, leap of faith gamble that Quinn took bringing in Sark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Yeah, based on the above quote, I'm going with the latter? And I thought last week's column was a hack job. I was particularly fond of "other than that 11-5 run to the SB, the team has been 12-12 combined in two separate seasons with vastly different coaching staffs and rosters" Meaningful analysis from a professional sports writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinnTorris Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Bradley is spot on. If we fail to reach the playoffs this year and falter again next season, Quinn is gone. I thought highly of him going into the Superbowl, but now my opinion is trending downwards, similar to Mike Smith after 2012. This team seemingly got better talent wise over the offseason, and the schedule we faced in the first 8 games wasn't tough by any stretch. We went 11-5 last year and got the 2 seed, but at one point we were 4-3 and 7-5. I don't believe Quinn can consistently coach a team that performs for an entire game or an entire season. Hope he proves me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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