Butudontseeme™ Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but with the lackluster performance of our WRs this year, I wonder if not having a “real” WR coach is catching up to this group. I think Raheem is a good piece of the organization and should have a spot but I started wondering about this yesterday. Our pass catchers have been very pedestrian this year with drops, tips, trips and average route running etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opensource001 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I have wondered about this as well and am surprised no one else is talking about it either. I still don't understand this one. Take a guy who has no WR experience and make him a WR coach cause he was a mediocre DB/DB coach/HC? There were a lot of weird personnel decisions made this past year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtrap Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I agree that it was strange and I didn't like it. I dealt with it because I was still blindly following DQ (If I didn't what am I gonna do about it anyway besides ***** here). When I think about it I feel uneasy because a lot of moves seemed odd. I thought Richard Smith did a pretty good job. I would've preferred Quinn letting him because he was going to take over defensive calling. I feel like Quinn put a lot of trust in younger guys that were "his" guys. The fact that Matt LeFleur wasn't even thought of as an option is ridiculous. He had a lot of nfl experience than Sark. I almost feel like Quinn went too much with the loyalty route than the best man for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's an interesting line of thought, but last year we were all lauding the move because of how productive ALL the receivers were. One week it was Julio, the next it was Gabriel or Sanu. They go down then it's Nick Williams stepping in to have a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostnmexico Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 36 minutes ago, sandtrap said: I agree that it was strange and I didn't like it. I dealt with it because I was still blindly following DQ (If I didn't what am I gonna do about it anyway besides ***** here). When I think about it I feel uneasy because a lot of moves seemed odd. I thought Richard Smith did a pretty good job. I would've preferred Quinn letting him because he was going to take over defensive calling. I feel like Quinn put a lot of trust in younger guys that were "his" guys. The fact that Matt LeFleur wasn't even thought of as an option is ridiculous. He had a lot of nfl experience than Sark. I almost feel like Quinn went too much with the loyalty route than the best man for the job. I could not agree more with this post amigo! It seems like everybody wants to positive vibe with this group. Positive friction seems to be vibe they dont get because they got rid of all the old heads on staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Butudontseeme™ said: I haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but with the lackluster performance of our WRs this year, I wonder if not having a “real” WR coach is catching up to this group. I think Raheem is a good piece of the organization and should have a spot but I started wondering about this yesterday. Our pass catchers have been very pedestrian this year with drops, tips, trips and average route running etc. Shanny was a gifted wide receivers coach under Kubiak with the Texans. Very particular about each step His receivers take in the route… I do like Morris, but I suspect Shanahan was actually the wide receivers coach. Nice observation Butyoudontseeme Edited November 6, 2017 by Falconsin2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said: Shanny was a gifted wide receivers coach under Kubiak with the Texans. Very particular about each step His receivers take in the route… I do like Morris, but I suspect Shanahan was actually the wide receivers coach. Nice observation Butyoudontseeme Sounds like we let our true HC go to San Fran how about we swap Quinn with Shanahan and let him call the offense couldn't do any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: It's an interesting line of thought, but last year we were all lauding the move because of how productive ALL the receivers were. One week it was Julio, the next it was Gabriel or Sanu. They go down then it's Nick Williams stepping in to have a game. All true, I just wonder if a year removed from having Robiskie and whatever he brought as a “real” WR is it. May not have matter last year with it being just one offseason between Robiskie and Morris, but maybe the practice routine is different? Idk man, there’s got to be some kind of explanation behind the collective drop off unless it’s just the fact that they’re not focused or something of that nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, Xfactor said: Sounds like we let our true HC go to San Fran how about we swap Quinn with Shanahan and let him call the offense couldn't do any worse. It’s not so easy as that. Great position coach doesn’t necessarily mean great Coordinator. And great OC/DC does not necessarily translate to great HC. Just look at Wade and Kubiak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 He must be coaching the WRs to knock down passes, as if they were DBs. Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Butudontseeme™ said: I haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but with the lackluster performance of our WRs this year, I wonder if not having a “real” WR coach is catching up to this group. I think Raheem is a good piece of the organization and should have a spot but I started wondering about this yesterday. Our pass catchers have been very pedestrian this year with drops, tips, trips and average route running etc. Quinn wouldnt let that happen because if hes succesful ...he may take his job someday This is a self serving industry and unfortunately, Arthur Blank is too naive and gullible to notice this. Sark has no business to be O.C and Armstrong had no business to be a special teams coach after Superbowl. Theres NOTHING Armstrong has done to provide added value to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Ill be FIRST one to call it....Raheem Morris will be gone by next year. Hes too good to stay at this position. In my opinion, he has nothing more to add to his position....other than control over play calling on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It'' not morris' fault Hooper is a talentless piece of chit, or Julio dropped a layup. They are professionals, they should know how to catch the ball by this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 59 minutes ago, Butudontseeme™ said: All true, I just wonder if a year removed from having Robiskie and whatever he brought as a “real” WR is it. May not have matter last year with it being just one offseason between Robiskie and Morris, but maybe the practice routine is different? Idk man, there’s got to be some kind of explanation behind the collective drop off unless it’s just the fact that they’re not focused or something of that nature. Hey it's one of those things we'll never know unless somebody talks. Like Falconsin pointed out, Kyle cut his teeth as a receivers coach. He was very detailed with that group. Sark cut his teeth as a quarterback's coach. So wrap your head around that one. We're all kind of grasping at straws trying to figure out what's going on so I guess everyone is on the firing line. Me, I'm gonna start in on the strength and conditioning coach next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay1k2 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The team is just not focused on top of dealing with the offensive changes. How are we 3rd in drops? Last year we don't have all those drops. It makes a huge difference when those drops kill a drive or lose us points when in the endzone. Not to mention the dumb penalties and horrible field position it seems we always start with. Nothing is going right. I think Sarkisian changed the offense more than we were let on when he was hired. How many times this year have we seen a receiver apparently run the wrong route? It's like everyone is out there thinking too much like 2015 instead of going out there on autopilot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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