Peyton Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Dear Dudes, The offense is missing something. I had some trouble putting my finger on it, but then I came across this ground breaking new play and it occurred to me that it might be the answer to about half of the team's offensive struggles. Since nothing else seems to be working in short yardage situations, maybe coach the guys up on this one and just see what happens. As always, thanks so much for your time and your consideration. Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I'm sure QB sneaks are legal in college, so I'm still baffled as to why Sark won't run it in the pros. Numerous times this year Ryan could have just reached over and got an easy first. Heck that would have been fat more effective than that ridiculous jet sweep on the 6" line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJmusic Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 They only do it when they are desperate and moving in the two minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfan84 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Would love to see this implemented. Just squeeze in behind Mack and get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Ryan aint got enough asz to make that play Off Tackle is the call in that situation, unless you are Mike Mularkey, or Sark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Karst41 said: Ryan aint got enough asz to make that play Off Tackle is the call in that situation, unless you are Mike Mularkey, or Sark. Yet somehow scrawny azz Brady is the greatest QB sneaker of all time. Watching the Falcons getting to 2nd and 1 on two consecutive possessions and go 3 and out on both at the start of the second half was....I don't have the word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Either Ryan doesn’t like them or we’ve had a string of coordinators that don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLM Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) have you see ryan qb sneak before? he get's no push. he stands up straight, turns around, and pushes backwards with his legs like if you were pushing a rock up a hill. ryan does not do the brady 2 yard dive sneak that's why we don't do it. Edited November 6, 2017 by BLM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intellectually Honest Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Peyton said: Dear Dudes, The offense is missing something. I had some trouble putting my finger on it, but then I came across this ground breaking new play and it occurred to me that it might be the answer to about half of the team's offensive struggles. Since nothing else seems to be working in short yardage situations, maybe coach the guys up on this one and just see what happens. As always, thanks so much for your time and your consideration. Peyton Not with Ryan. I don't know if you been paying attention for the last decade, but when Ryan runs with the football, he folds up like a wet piece of toilet paper. Bad things happen . . . for the Falcons. Edited November 6, 2017 by Intellectually Honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, BLM said: have you see ryan qb sneak before? he get's no push. he stands up straight, turns around, and pushes backwards with his legs like if you were pushing a rock up a hill. ryan does not do the brady 2 yard dive sneak that's why we don't do it. He could maybe practice doing it better. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 23 minutes ago, Peyton said: Yet somehow scrawny azz Brady is the greatest QB sneaker of all time. Watching the Falcons getting to 2nd and 1 on two consecutive possessions and go 3 and out on both at the start of the second half was....I don't have the word for it. Scrawny azz Brady has always had an above above average line built for passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intellectually Honest Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Tandy said: Scrawny azz Brady has always had an above above average line built for passing. Not for running. When is the last time you ever see Ryan run a successful QB sneak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerFalcon8710 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 That’s great but it still requires the offensive line to push the dline backwards which they did 0 times yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLM Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Peyton said: He could maybe practice doing it better. Just a thought. ok maybe he doesn't push backwards but go to 5:55 and you'll see why http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d825d3146/GameDay-Falcons-vs-Giants-highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Intellectually Honest said: Not for running. When is the last time you ever see Ryan run a successful QB sneak? What does that have to do with my post? As for the answer to your question - they don't often run it - but he's been pretty successful at it - 23 out of 26 times. NFL Quarterbacks: Short-Yardage Runs Since 2000 (Minimum 20 Carries) Quarterback Runs 1st Downs Conv. Rate Quarterback Runs 1st Downs Conv. Rate Tom Brady 95 90 94.74% Jake Plummer 31 26 83.87% Chad Pennington 33 31 93.94% Matt Hasselbeck 38 31 81.58% David Garrard 65 60 92.31% Ben Roethlisberger 48 39 81.25% Kyle Boller 21 19 90.48% Cam Newton 51 41 80.39% Matt Ryan 26 23 88.46% Steve McNair 49 39 79.59% Jay Fiedler 34 30 88.24% Michael Vick 61 48 78.69% Josh Freeman 34 30 88.24% Matt Cassel 27 21 77.78% Carson Palmer 39 34 87.18% Joe Flacco 34 26 76.47% Drew Brees 46 40 86.96% Daunte Culpepper 73 55 75.34% Alex Smith 23 20 86.96% Matt Schaub 32 24 75.00% Philip Rivers 30 26 86.67% Jay Cutler 20 15 75.00% Aaron Brooks 44 38 86.36% Kordell Stewart 35 25 71.43% Aaron Rodgers 29 25 86.21% J.P. Losman 21 15 71.43% Jeff Garcia 42 36 85.71% Jason Campbell 24 17 70.83% Brian Griese 27 23 85.19% Mark Brunell 20 14 70.00% Ryan Fitzpatrick 33 28 84.85% Quincy Carter 20 14 70.00% David Carr 33 28 84.85% Jon Kitna 23 16 69.57% Donovan McNabb 58 49 84.48% Mark Sanchez 23 16 69.57% Brad Johnson 25 21 84.00% Jake Delhomme 23 14 60.87% Drew Bledsoe 31 26 83.87% AVERAGE 36.4 30.1 82.69% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tandy said: Scrawny azz Brady has always had an above above average line built for passing. Ok. The Falcons supposedly have one of the very best Centers in all of football though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Peyton said: Ok. The Falcons supposedly have one of the very best Centers in all of football though, right? They would get right through the right side. Honestly - I am with you in that they should try it - but I don't think THEY trust the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Tandy said: What does that have to do with my post? As for the answer to your question - they don't often run it - but he's been pretty successful at it - 23 out of 26 times. 23 out of 26 times. That's fascinating. I wonder if it would have been worth a try on two consecutive drives yesterday where Atlanta had 2nd and 1 and went 3 and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Tandy said: They would get right through the right side. Honestly - I am with you in that they should try it - but I don't think THEY trust the line. There is something they don't trust for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Peyton said: There is something they don't trust for sure. The right side of the line is a huge weakness this year. Look - Ryan got pounded last year - but the mindset of this team was different - and they overcame any weakness and the line actually became a strength because of health and continuity - until the Super Bowl - and the line broke down bad in the second half. Injuries mostly - but they should have paid more attention and built in the line. Philly did it, Dallas did it and KC did it. **** - the Saints have done it the past few years - and look at them this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intellectually Honest Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tandy said: What does that have to do with my post? As for the answer to your question - they don't often run it - but he's been pretty successful at it - 23 out of 26 times. NFL Quarterbacks: Short-Yardage Runs Since 2000 (Minimum 20 Carries) Quarterback Runs 1st Downs Conv. Rate Quarterback Runs 1st Downs Conv. Rate Tom Brady 95 90 94.74% Jake Plummer 31 26 83.87% Chad Pennington 33 31 93.94% Matt Hasselbeck 38 31 81.58% David Garrard 65 60 92.31% Ben Roethlisberger 48 39 81.25% Kyle Boller 21 19 90.48% Cam Newton 51 41 80.39% Matt Ryan 26 23 88.46% Steve McNair 49 39 79.59% Jay Fiedler 34 30 88.24% Michael Vick 61 48 78.69% Josh Freeman 34 30 88.24% Matt Cassel 27 21 77.78% Carson Palmer 39 34 87.18% Joe Flacco 34 26 76.47% Drew Brees 46 40 86.96% Daunte Culpepper 73 55 75.34% Alex Smith 23 20 86.96% Matt Schaub 32 24 75.00% Philip Rivers 30 26 86.67% Jay Cutler 20 15 75.00% Aaron Brooks 44 38 86.36% Kordell Stewart 35 25 71.43% Aaron Rodgers 29 25 86.21% J.P. Losman 21 15 71.43% Jeff Garcia 42 36 85.71% Jason Campbell 24 17 70.83% Brian Griese 27 23 85.19% Mark Brunell 20 14 70.00% Ryan Fitzpatrick 33 28 84.85% Quincy Carter 20 14 70.00% David Carr 33 28 84.85% Jon Kitna 23 16 69.57% Donovan McNabb 58 49 84.48% Mark Sanchez 23 16 69.57% Brad Johnson 25 21 84.00% Jake Delhomme 23 14 60.87% Drew Bledsoe 31 26 83.87% AVERAGE 36.4 30.1 82.69% I question this info. I want video evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, Intellectually Honest said: I question this info. I want video evidence. Go look up the videos then. I can tell you my favorite was against the Saints - he freakin' pushed them into a first down in that game. Several years ago - but I was at the game (in New Orleans) and I couldn't believe it - he was absolutely determined to get that first down - and he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLM Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, BLM said: ok maybe he doesn't push backwards but go to 5:55 and you'll see why http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d825d3146/GameDay-Falcons-vs-Giants-highlights Now look at brady sneak at 1:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronob Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Quarterback sneaks are all well and good, particularly if it is 4th an inches. But if your O-line and RBs are called upon to get one yard and they're not capable of doing it more times than not, then you have major problems that quarterback sneaks won't solve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerz Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 This makes too much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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