FalconsIn2012 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) I am tired of giving coaches a pass because of players not executing. Lack of execution falls on players and coaches. Need an example? Why did our defensive execution improve so much in 2016 once Quinn took over the play calling? Because he called a better game snd coached up the game plan properly during the week. Should Julio have caught the ball? Yes. But Hooper brain farting on the pick is a coach & player problem. Sark sees them every single day in practice. Hooper looks lost on Sundays...I suspect he looks the same in practice. Shanny was a micro manager...completely OCD. Every nuance was practiced over and over. That is why a Ferrari has apparently turned into a bus ticket. Execution is a practice issue. That’s on both coach & player. Let’s not ignore the obvious. The timing of Kubiak’s statement about wanting to be an OC is odd. He has his eye on the Falcons. The way things are going, Quinn will take the bait in the off season Edited November 5, 2017 by Falconsin2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, WhenFalconsWin said: What about the execution of the Falcons offense...I'm all for it! Would love to see some AJ passion from the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Falconsin2012 said: Would love to see some AJ passion from the team AJ Green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said: What about the execution of the Falcons offense...I'm all for it! Beat me to it lol. John McKay, after his Tampa Bay Bucs lost a game recently. He was asked, “What do you think about the execution of your team?” McKay replied with a straight face. “I’m all for it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: AJ Green? lol...AJ Green went crazy on Jags corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, Falconsin2012 said: lol...AJ Green went crazy on Jags corner Imma go head and fall back and let ya'll process ya'll feelings. Grieving is healthy. Some of the logic in these threads... ... what did all that passion do for the Bengals offense today? 7 whole points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said: What about the execution of the Falcons offense...I'm all for it! This. And in the voice of Dan Reeves, the coaches call the plays but the players have to execute. We haven't executed worth a dam this year. It's nearly 2013 and 2015 level execution. Execute em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Seriously though either you slog through it and hope you get incremental improvement. or fire the OC or start sitting players. This season will take monumental improvement offensively to get to a winning record as is. Players aren't buying in, in 2015 team moved the ball but just turned it over or had red zone woes. This year they really can't move the ball consistently. Who knows a change might help,Sark wouldn't be the first OC canned in season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Its on both. There were PLENTY of plays we didn't execute. Off the top of my head the Julio overthrow TD earlier in the game, the Julio drop TD on the 4th and 7, Matty Ice failing to throw the ball away on a scramble where he was running around for like an hour and got sacked. That was super dumb. Was already outside the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, putnam6 said: Seriously though either you slog through it and hope you get incremental improvement. or fire the OC or start sitting players. This season will take monumental improvement offensively to get to a winning record as is. Players aren't buying in, in 2015 team moved the ball but just turned it over or had red zone woes. This year they really can't move the ball consistently. Who knows a change might help,Sark wouldn't be the first OC canned in season Again with the logic. Not picking on you putnam but it's like folks ain't seeing the forest for the trees. They came into the game #5 in yards and put up almost 200 in the first half against a top tier defense. Teams who can't move the ball consistently don't put up the 5th most yards in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinningIsTheOnlyOption Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Watch every Falcons game on offensive plays last season and this season and make a comparison. I think you will find that the biggest difference on offense is the fact that the Falcons are trying to play SLOW methodical football. Last season they were playing no huddle go all out and fired up MUST SCORE on every down football. Here's the thing, by comparison the Falcons are arguably the Fastest offense in the NFL, or at least one of the top 5 so to say. When you play like the Falcons did today where Matt Ryan is letting the play clock go to 2 seconds before hiking the ball then you are playing SLOW TEMPO football. The Falcons should use their speed to their advantage on offense by playing fast, otherwise they leave the defense with time to make adjustments. OR as seen in this game, when the Falcons were playing fast and no huddle for a couple plays "Fake an injury, which in turn gives the other team time to review certain things in the booth and a FREE TIMEOUT". I'm not sure many will get what I am saying there, but yes it was a bit of a cheat. Every time the Falcons go into the no huddle or PLAY FAST TEMPO on offense there is some player who gets hurt and then comes back fine 2 plays later. Falcons are a SPEEDY offense, they need to use that speed to their advantage by playing a speedy tempo in my opinion. This slow methodical game play "Like they have been doing running down the clock" is what I think has been a big problem for the Falcons. It's not so much the play calling, but it's the fact the Falcons are TAKING THEIR TIME TO START EVERY PLAY ON OFFENSE! It's ridiculous. Falcons are BUILT for speed, not a Tom Brady team. Perhaps it has to do with the Fact the Falcons went up on the Pats so quickly and then lost the game is why they are holding back with this SLOW play "BALANCE OFFENSE TIME WITH DEFENSE TIME BS". Either way, those are my opinions on what's wrong with the Falcons and how other teams are taking advantage of those problems. I mean really, you go back and watch every game and you'll see anytime and I mean ANYTIME the Falcons start playing FAST or no huddle or QUICK tempo on offense there is a player on the defense who ACTS hurt, and I say ACTS because they come back two plays later and are fine. I don't know how you deal with such an issue like that except to do what you do best and make sure when those situations arise you CHANGE THE PLAY to something unpredictable. Perhaps the difference between Shanny and Sarks is that Shanny figured this out after year one and Sarks hasn't yet. And as for Julio dropping the ball in the end zone, anyone who complains about that is wrong if they think that cost the Falcons the game, WHY? Because the Falcons got another touchdown after that and they had a chance to win the game. You can't lay every single game on Julio. Also, as for Austin Hoopers drops, nobody seems to remember him contributing earlier in the game with short yardage catches, they only remember the one drop. Matt Ryan didn't play that bad, with the exception of the game tempo that is, when you put him back their acting like TOM BRADY trying to read the field then bad things seem to happen. Speedy player advantage is gone. JMO etc.... I'm not ranting here my friends, I am just pointing out some things that I have seen by comparison from last season to this season. I was one of the first people to complain about Sarks play calls on offense, but the thing is, it's not so much the play calls, it's this PLAYING A SLOW CHESS FOOTBALL GAME when he needs to be playing an up tempo FAST ONE with this SPEEDY Falcons offense. IMO. We shall see what happens. Like I said those are my opinions and thoughts on the subject. I'll watch, and if nothing is changed with what I am saying is wrong with the team, then in my opinion that will be the reason they don't make the play offs, or lose in the playoffs. It's the main reason they lost in the Suberbowl, they become complacent, rather than sticking to what got them their and that's playing fast on offense, they reverted to what they are doing now : "Playing SLOW TEMPO FOOTBALL WHICH TAKES AWAY THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A SPEEDY OFFENSE". Have a safe and great weekend/week my friends. Remember : At the end of the day, unless you had some money riding on the Falcons, it is only a game and not worth causing friction between you and your friends or your family or even worse UPSETTING YOU over something you can not control! GO FALCONS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Imma go head and fall back and let ya'll process ya'll feelings. Grieving is healthy. Some of the logic in these threads... ... what did all that passion do for the Bengals offense today? 7 whole points. Do you think AJ is a thug or hothead? Like Julio, AJ is an even keeled non-diva. But it’s nice to see passion every once in a while...and I don’t grieve over football. Voicing an opinion falls short of that. Sorry our opinions don’t align on this...but that does not warrant you throwing shade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerFalcon8710 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Our oline is abysmal... that’s the main issue on offense. No time and no push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, Falconsin2012 said: Do you think AJ is a thug or hothead? Like Julio, AJ is an even keeled non-diva. But it’s nice to see passion every once in a while...and I don’t grieve over football. Voicing an opinion falls short of that. Sorry our opinions don’t align on this...but that does not warrant you throwing shade I wasn't throwing shade. My apologies if it came off that way. Board kinda seems to be in mourning right now. I meant the "grieving" totally facitiously. I'm just saying, AJ's passion didn't amount to a thing today when it was all said and done for the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Our tackles are not playing as well and Hooper had a better rookie campaign than he’s having his 2nd year Unpredictable things like that, which happen every year, are why you have to take advantage when you’re there. Everyone knows the story, but we were there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 8 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Again with the logic. Not picking on you putnam but it's like folks ain't seeing the forest for the trees. They came into the game #5 in yards and put up almost 200 in the first half against a top tier defense. Teams who can't move the ball consistently don't put up the 5th most yards in the league. I know you ain't picking on me LOL.Respect your opinion and football knowledge. Like I said slogging through it is an option, guess that makes you a slog througher LOL. They are 27th in getting points in the red zone, Coming off 7th highest ranked offense lastyear, thats pretty well uhhh offensive. All I know is the season is on the brink of collapse, 10-6 even 9-7 looks like a stretch, could be this team, needs a shock to the system. Or did we all over evaluate the talent on this team. They have had one win where everything clicked,other wise they were struggling to win or just flat out lost. seriously doubt they make any drastic changes in season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn4ttBack Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Hooper could just be taking it harder to adjust to the Offensive changes... he was a rookie last year and this year he's got an "inept" OC at the helm (that doesnt seem to have the same affinity for TEs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerFalcon8710 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 14 hours ago, WhenFalconsWin said: What about the execution of the Falcons offense...I'm all for it! As long as it’s public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high impact Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, SkerFalcon8710 said: As long as it’s public Ouch, LOL. This team should come out and say we are giving this years pay back to ATL as we have let everyone who is a fan down. It is just not the right thing to do to charge fans to come watch the pathetic performance we have shown almost all year. With all the ugly things going on in this world the Falcons have been something to help us get past it. Now not so much. They are just ugly to watch or even hear for that matter. It hurts more this year because we saw how good this team could be. I feel like we are having to live the 4th quarter of the SB all year long. Just to shove it back at us for believing for a short time our Falcons football team had turned the corner and we as their fans could finally hold our heads high. From what I see this team does not believe in itself so how can we as fans? The players have to want to stops this and move forward on their own. Until then we will keep seeing this same inept team play for the rest of the season. Edited November 6, 2017 by high impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 17 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Again with the logic. Not picking on you putnam but it's like folks ain't seeing the forest for the trees. They came into the game #5 in yards and put up almost 200 in the first half against a top tier defense. Teams who can't move the ball consistently don't put up the 5th most yards in the league. Agree, we're moving the ball but finding every way possible to kill drives. Penalties, drops, timing, qb and wr/te not on same page, poor or ill-timed play call.....we've pull out the whole bag of tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. T. Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 17 hours ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Again with the logic. Not picking on you putnam but it's like folks ain't seeing the forest for the trees. They came into the game #5 in yards and put up almost 200 in the first half against a top tier defense. Teams who can't move the ball consistently don't put up the 5th most yards in the league. True statement. Too bad it doesn't translate to points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 11/5/2017 at 4:50 PM, FalconFanSince1970 said: This. And in the voice of Dan Reeves, the coaches call the plays but the players have to execute. We haven't executed worth a dam this year. It's nearly 2013 and 2015 level execution. Execute em! True. And in 2013 a lot of that was 2nd teamers in place of injured starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 14 hours ago, SkerFalcon8710 said: As long as it’s public Well it's public but it's a slow death fast and physical has become lost and miserable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Nah, I blame the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconJim Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 It doesn't matter what play you call, or who calls it --- if the players can't properly execute it, then it's all for naught --- simple as that! And to use a Smitty-ism, we haven't been very "efficient" at that, lately!!! Plus, I don't think these players have fully bought into Sark's system, yet. And it's hard to say when/if that will happen, or when it will all "click", or gel --- but I do know, success breeds success and I hope that's the direction we take in the coming weeks! GO, YOU DIRTY BIRDS!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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