Peyton Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just now, Flying Falcon said: And how many times have we've said this? And now he's older? The dude is only 29. Yes I'm not that optimistic, but the truth is, the guy doesn't have a lot of mileage on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Peyton said: I think the biggest need for the Falcons is just for the coaches and players to do their jobs better. Riley was a hole in the lineup, but maybe Spoon will get lucky and stay healthy. Yep, I don't see a huge personnel problem. Just make the routine play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, Peyton said: The dude is only 29. Yes I'm not that optimistic, but the truth is, the guy doesn't have a lot of mileage on him. And why he doesn't? And to be 29 means your old in NFL, well atleast by AFMB standards. Because that's what AMFB posters says about RBs in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 14 hours ago, Intellectually Honest said: Strength of the team? Are you kidding me? Team has no weaknesses. I got piled on because I criticized the defense, and the TE. Your going to get ganged on for criticizing the Oline. It's pretty clear many fans here are delusional or live in an alternate universe where everything is rosy and awesome. We might be playing 4-3 ball because of an act of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappywhite Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 11 hours ago, papachaz said: but that's all some people CAN do, is complain. I mean there are posters here who've been here 8-9-10 years with few just a few posts in that time, and mostly they only complain something. Like its their calling or something. I mean we all need to complain sometimes, but good grief we post other stuff too.... But hey, we need a diverse makeup here, y'all would get tired of my 3rd grade humor if that's all there was to read here, I suppose ;). Now, off to find some new jokes about batteries....... +10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewman Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Our biggest need is for our receivers to quit tipping passes to the other teams defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I don't think this team "needs" anything out of free agency right now. They need to execute better as a team. Offense is not crisp and the defense needs to actually be more speedy and free flowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Wes first year starting. 2 bad games out of 7 .... Let's let the man play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 13 hours ago, Intellectually Honest said: Depends on who they would be replaced with. I am open to any upgrade, but obviously some are more important than others. Ryan needs a clean pocket to succeed. I want the team to improve and that starts with the weakest link. I don't think Ryan is the weakest link. Right now the RG is. I honestly don't think Wes good enough to be a backup for most teams. Guy is horrible to run behind and struggles in pass protection also. So it all depends what the Falcons would get for any hypothetical trade. A Super Bowl is more important to me as a fan than any individual awards. Falcons OL are not a top 10 unit. They WERE a top 10 unit, and that was primarily due to being healthy all year. I doubt they are in the top half in the NFL now. They were a top 5 unit last year. Top 10 (so far) this year, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 12 hours ago, Knight of God said: You only get reps if you deserve them. Truth. That’s the way it SHOULD be. But in Riley’s Case.... ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, atljbo said: Wes first year starting. 2 bad games out of 7 .... Let's let the man play besides the holding penalty did he really have a bad game? the sack was credited to him but Matt went through his progressions, scrambled a bit, then got sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, raysnill1 said: besides the holding penalty did he really have a bad game? the sack was credited to him but Matt went through his progressions, scrambled a bit, then got sacked. My point is .. If ppl want to say he had a bad game.. That's 2 out of 7 for a first year guard ..... Let the man play and continue to develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Vandy said: They were a top 5 unit last year. Top 10 (so far) this year, IMO. They are brother. Matt has only been sacked 12 times and that’s 8th best imnthe NFL. The best is the saints with only 7 sacks. Matt has been hit 37 Times. Good for 12th best. Our rushing avg is 4.8 and that’s 4th best. I don’t know what these guys are looking at but our line is def top 10 again this year for sure. Maybe if they watched all 32 teams and not only our team they’d see the differences in how good or Bad lines are. Wes is playing great to me. He’s had a few moments but geez he’s a 2nd year player 1st time starter. Dudes are either trolls or crybabies. This ain’t college where the difference in talent levels is a large margin. It’s the NFL where even a 2-5 team has talent but maybe the wrong coach or the wrong scheme for the personnel. It’s lityle things like that that separate nfl teams. You can be the worst and be the best the very next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: They are brother. Matt has only been sacked 12 times and that’s 8th best imnthe NFL. The best is the saints with only 7 sacks. Matt has been hit 37 Times. Good for 12th best. Our rushing avg is 4.8 and that’s 4th best. I don’t know what these guys are looking at but our line is def top 10 again this year for sure. Maybe if they watched all 32 teams and not only our team they’d see the differences in how good or Bad lines are. Wes is playing great to me. He’s had a few moments but geez he’s a 2nd year player 1st time starter. Dudes are either trolls or crybabies. This ain’t college where the difference in talent levels is a large margin. It’s the NFL where even a 2-5 team has talent but maybe the wrong coach or the wrong scheme for the personnel. It’s lityle things like that that separate nfl teams. You can be the worst and be the best the very next season. They don't. Edited October 31, 2017 by Bobby.Digital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj00100 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: They are brother. Matt has only been sacked 12 times and that’s 8th best imnthe NFL. The best is the saints with only 7 sacks. Matt has been hit 37 Times. Good for 12th best. Our rushing avg is 4.8 and that’s 4th best. I don’t know what these guys are looking at but our line is def top 10 again this year for sure. Maybe if they watched all 32 teams and not only our team they’d see the differences in how good or Bad lines are. Wes is playing great to me. He’s had a few moments but geez he’s a 2nd year player 1st time starter. Dudes are either trolls or crybabies. This ain’t college where the difference in talent levels is a large margin. It’s the NFL where even a 2-5 team has talent but maybe the wrong coach or the wrong scheme for the personnel. It’s lityle things like that that separate nfl teams. You can be the worst and be the best the very next season. Sorry but he's the weak link in our oline. I don't know what U R WATCHING, but im watching a crappy player who is going to get our QB killed. Matt has only been sacked 12 times? U do know we had an early BYE week so we have 1 game less than every other team. And Matt gets the ball out really fast so it's hard to sack him. If he's not getting the ball out fast, he is panicking and running for his life and then throwing the ball away or an INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, atljbo said: My point is .. If ppl want to say he had a bad game.. That's 2 out of 7 for a first year guard ..... Let the man play and continue to develop Truth. But still ppl are forgetting how they wanted to bench Debo and Campbell after bad games last year. We were 4-3 at one time last year top. And 7-5 after the KC loss as well with Tampa on our heels. Them losing to Oakland kinda seeled the division and Dallas losing to GB seeled home field and that happened because Seattle lost a game giving us 2nd seed. We were supposed to be a road playoff team but obviously ppl don’t remember that. Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Bobby.Digital said: They don't. Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, jj00100 said: Sorry but he's the weak link in our oline. I don't know what U R WATCHING, but im watching a crappy player who is going to get our QB killed. Matt has only been sacked 12 times? U do know we had an early BYE week so we have 1 game less than every other team. And Matt gets the ball out really fast so it's hard to sack him. If he's not getting the ball out fast, he is panicking and running for his life and then throwing the ball away or an INT. Look man EVERY LINE NO MATTER HOW GOOD HAS A WEAK LINK!!!!! Chester was our “weak link” last year and he wasn’t bad. Being the weak link on a good line isn’t a bad thing. Is a line supposed to be equal across the board?? You sound silly with this thinking man. A REAL weak link is what Seattle had at LT. Wes ain’t that. There’s been games where his score was higher than every other lineman we had except Mack. But I bet you guys overlook that huh?? And ANOTHER thing. The right side of your line is the better run side and the left is passing. We’re 4th Best rushing line with a 4.8 avg. #FACTS. Coleman’s Big run against the jets was off Wes. #FACTS. Matt has only been sacked 12 times. #FACTS. Wes has only given up 2 of the 12. #FACTS. I can go on all day and disprove how terrible you all are saying he’s played. The true issue with the offense is execution and turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneOne01 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 RG isn't a big issue for this team anymore. Schweitzer isn't a liability nor is he out here blowing games with his play. For a 6th rounder, he's playing well above where he was drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 18 hours ago, Vandy said: Me kid about our OL? Never... C mack and RT Schrader are arguably the best in nfl at their positions. Levitre is quietly having a nice year. Jake is not near as bad as this board tries to make him out to be. And Wes is a 1st year starter who is two-steps forward/one Back but trending upwards. Toilolo is one of best blocking TE’s in football. we have a couple needs, but OL isn’t one of them. The fact is it’s a top 10 NFL. It's hard trying to explain this the unit just needs to find some consistency and we'll be fine. 4 hours ago, Peyton said: I think the biggest need for the Falcons is just for the coaches and players to do their jobs better. Riley was a hole in the lineup, but maybe Spoon will get lucky and stay healthy. This I still think outside the GB game this team hasn't near touched it's potential consistently yet.Once they get the mentioned you watch everyone's attitude change. Inconsistent poor execution in all 3 phases and stupid penalties are all I've remembered the first half of this season.They still need to kick it up a gear and clean it up but once we do I still think this team has more than enough talent to roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuster Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 23 hours ago, jj00100 said: What r your thoughts on our biggest needs before the trade deadline Wait. You see a problem on the OL? I was dismissed recently for suggesting the same. But, you are right. It is not just RG. The left side of the line has had issues as well. RBs get banged very near the LoS and Ryan is not getting the time he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 29 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: Look man EVERY LINE NO MATTER HOW GOOD HAS A WEAK LINK!!!!! Chester was our “weak link” last year and he wasn’t bad. Being the weak link on a good line isn’t a bad thing. Is a line supposed to be equal across the board?? You sound silly with this thinking man. A REAL weak link is what Seattle had at LT. Wes ain’t that. There’s been games where his score was higher than every other lineman we had except Mack. But I bet you guys overlook that huh?? And ANOTHER thing. The right side of your line is the better run side and the left is passing. We’re 4th Best rushing line with a 4.8 avg. #FACTS. Coleman’s Big run against the jets was off Wes. #FACTS. Matt has only been sacked 12 times. #FACTS. Wes has only given up 2 of the 12. #FACTS. I can go on all day and disprove how terrible you all are saying he’s played. The true issue with the offense is execution and turnovers. I feel your pain through the keyboard man it sounds like some of these guys are getting too you.I wouldn't much bother with it no matter how good your explanations are a lot have already made there minds up and as you well know there train of thought moves from there original thought lol. SB or bust that's it with that crowd they probably don't realise that the other teams who we play get paid aswell lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ruuster said: Wait. You see a problem on the OL? I was dismissed recently for suggesting the same. But, you are right. It is not just RG. The left side of the line has had issues as well. RBs get banged very near the LoS and Ryan is not getting the time he needs. Matt has had plenty of time. WR’s ain’t getting open like last year because of a multitude of reasons. For instance 1. Pre snap movement that Kyle used to do to confuse or create a mismatch for the defense isn’t happening like last year 2. WR’s aren’t getting open like last year because go back to #1. Not exposing the mismatch and confusing the defense enough 3. The route combinations haven’t been as crisp as last year. 4. Poor execution of plays. 5. Dropped passes for TO’s. Again, Matt is having time. We haven’t been using the RB’s in the passing game as much as we did last season either. Sark can have kyles playbook but he cant run it like him. The line is far from being a reason much less Wes. And we’ve faced some d@mn good defenses. We gotta take care of the ball. PERIOD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, kiwifalcon said: I feel your pain through the keyboard man it sounds like some of these guys are getting too you.I wouldn't much bother with it no matter how good your explanations are a lot have already made there minds up and as you well know there train of thought moves from there original thought lol. SB or bust that's it with that crowd they probably don't realise that the other teams who we play get paid aswell lol. I can’t stand illogical reasoning that doesn’t make sense when the obvious reasons are right in your face. But I attribute most of it to the average fan really doesn’t know much about the “game of football”. It’s bottom line win or lose and that’s it. They don’t understand x’s and o’s or the game within the game. The chess match. With them it’s just lineup and beat your man but it’s much deeper than that. Sometimes the DC called the right Play to foil our offensive play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 38 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: Look man EVERY LINE NO MATTER HOW GOOD HAS A WEAK LINK!!!!! Chester was our “weak link” last year and he wasn’t bad. Being the weak link on a good line isn’t a bad thing. Is a line supposed to be equal across the board?? You sound silly with this thinking man. A REAL weak link is what Seattle had at LT. Wes ain’t that. There’s been games where his score was higher than every other lineman we had except Mack. But I bet you guys overlook that huh?? And ANOTHER thing. The right side of your line is the better run side and the left is passing. We’re 4th Best rushing line with a 4.8 avg. #FACTS. Coleman’s Big run against the jets was off Wes. #FACTS. Matt has only been sacked 12 times. #FACTS. Wes has only given up 2 of the 12. #FACTS. I can go on all day and disprove how terrible you all are saying he’s played. The true issue with the offense is execution and turnovers. but but but....... Falcons have had 424 plays from scrimmage. don't you realize that Matt's been hit 37 of those??? THAT's .09% of the plays, IT'S GOING TO GET HIM KILLED he's been sacked 12 times????? GASP THAT'S a WHOLE .03% of the plays THEY'RE GOING TO GET HIM KILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean come ON man, you can't be serious thinking less than 1% of the plays getting hit and less than 1/3 of 1% of the plays getting him sacked isn't GOING TO GET HIM KILLED!!!!! can you? (P.S. I rounded up the numbers, because we all know that's important) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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