FalconsIn2012 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 43 minutes ago, JD dirtybird21 said: Yes. Great idea. I would almost go Poole, trade Alford straight up, and keep Collins. And if Collins fails a 3rd drug test? Has he earned that kind of trust from the Falcons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Falconsin2012 said: And if Collins fails a 3rd drug test? Has he earned that kind of trust from the Falcons? The fact that Collins is still on the team tells me the Falcons still have faith in him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, JD dirtybird21 said: The fact that Collins is still on the team tells me the Falcons still have faith in him I agree. Faith and support is one thing. Trading a top-20 corner, giving his spot to Collins and crossing your fingers in the hope that Collins doesn’t fail a 3rd time is another thing all together. Does not seem prudent. I do like Collins though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, stizz said: Get Ebron to compliment Hooper and let's kick this Super Bowl run off. Ebron sucks... way worse than Hooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Falconsin2012 said: I agree. Faith and support is one thing. Trading a top-20 corner, giving his spot to Collins and crossing your fingers in the hope that Collins doesn’t fail a 3rd time is another thing all together. Does not seem prudent. I do like Collins though... Well, I was strictly talking about the idea of trading Alford for Vontae Davis. I wouldn't just trade Alford to get rid of him. It would need to be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Grass is always greener... 1) We just paid Alford and Tru. We're not making a move for Davis. That's not even factoring in what to do with Jalen Collins and Brian Poole. 2) Tru has struggled at times this season but overall I think Alford has looked pretty good. We're Falcons fans so we're hyper critical and get up in arms whenever they give up a reception that goes for a 1st down or more than 10 yards. Reality is every corner does this. Talib and the "No Fly Zone" boys in Denver, Sherman, Peterson, Norman, and yes...even Davis. Silly suggestion IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Knight of God said: That's my thing. Move him to FS... Come on man. You know that isn't happening in the middle of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, stizz said: Come on man. You know that isn't happening in the middle of the season. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Peyton said: It's true that both Alford and Trufant got beaten by Anderson yesterday, but look at the two plays. Alford had perfect coverage and the Anderson just made an unbelievable diving catch. Where the ball was thrown the play was pretty much impossible to defend. Against Trufant, Anderson beat him so bad that I thought maybe he was calling for a fair catch on that TD. The announcers even described Trufant as having his feet in cement or something like that. I think the Falcons were over-playing run in the conditions yesterday. Trufant got caught with his eyes in the backfield...that will create the cement shoes effect. I think the Falcons were playing with a new team rule that required everyone to make one bad play before they were allowed to make contributions. Ryan, Hooper, Sanu, Jones, Alford, and Trufant all followed whiffs of one sort or another with solid contributions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Peyton said: LOL why in the world would the Falcons be looking to replace Alford? That's what the media is all about. Alford's Penalties, while he's doing the same thing as Sherman and Revis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruitt Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 would give them tru fot him all day long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDeion Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 13 hours ago, mtldirtybird said: Ebron sucks... way worse than Hooper Ebron can take us from Top 10 in dropped passes to #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBiscuit Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 They say he's better than Alford as if Alford isn't the best corner on our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonDeion Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 If refs would stop penalizing Alford for past behavior he’d be one of the top CBs in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 19 hours ago, Peyton said: At the very least, Trufant is going through a crisis of confidence. You can see it not only in his play but on his face. The other alternative is that he already cashed in so he just doesn't give a f*** anymore. I sincerely hope that is not the case. I agree he hasn’t been his shut-down self, but Tru hasn’t played near as bad as this board claims. Alf has played worse. and nobody is saying it much, but Rico has been struggling more than anybody in our secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Insano Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 18 hours ago, Joey563 said: wait... what? you means the game against the Jets yesterday right? Watch the game again..... Might wanna read my post..I said seriously just a question..then my next post was that I will watch again today..but seriously 3 sacks doesn’t add up to a lot of pressure..constant pressure is what I will look for today when I watch today but 3 sacks can be misleading if that’s the only pressure we got..I seriously don’t know what the answer is so that’s why I’m rewatching in a little bit today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Vandy said: I agree he hasn’t been his shut-down self, but Tru hasn’t played near as bad as this board claims. Alf has played worse. and nobody is saying it much, but Rico has been struggling more than anybody in our secondary. I think Alford has been playing great, we must be watching different teams. He gave up a big play to Anderson on a perfect throw and catch but I'd have a hard time remembering other big plays he gave up this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, slamee101 said: Grass is always greener... 1) We just paid Alford and Tru. We're not making a move for Davis. That's not even factoring in what to do with Jalen Collins and Brian Poole. 2) Tru has struggled at times this season but overall I think Alford has looked pretty good. We're Falcons fans so we're hyper critical and get up in arms whenever they give up a reception that goes for a 1st down or more than 10 yards. Reality is every corner does this. Talib and the "No Fly Zone" boys in Denver, Sherman, Peterson, Norman, and yes...even Davis. Silly suggestion IMHO. Trufant is horrible this year , no matter how you slice it Edited October 31, 2017 by caponine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Vandy said: I agree he hasn’t been his shut-down self, but Tru hasn’t played near as bad as this board claims. Alf has played worse. and nobody is saying it much, but Rico has been struggling more than anybody in our secondary. I agree that Tru has not been as bad as the board is claiming but I think Alford's been pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey563 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Captain Insano said: Might wanna read my post..I said seriously just a question..then my next post was that I will watch again today..but seriously 3 sacks doesn’t add up to a lot of pressure..constant pressure is what I will look for today when I watch today but 3 sacks can be misleading if that’s the only pressure we got..I seriously don’t know what the answer is so that’s why I’m rewatching in a little bit today my mistake. i thought you were making one of those "our team is trash" comments that people make on here, then pretend reality never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Would make no sense imo. We just payed Alford. Adding Davis would essentially making Alford our #4 CB because he isn't beating out Poole at NB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Peyton said: I think Alford has been playing great, we must be watching different teams. He gave up a big play to Anderson on a perfect throw and catch but I'd have a hard time remembering other big plays he gave up this year. If you believe Alf has been playing “great” we definetely have been watching different teams. And I’m a huge Alford fan. Campbell’s played great, Jarrett overall has been very good. Neal has done his job. Everyone else on D (IMO) has underperformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, slamee101 said: I agree that Tru has not been as bad as the board is claiming but I think Alford's been pretty good. Not to me he hasn’t. Neither Tru or Alf have been god awful, but they also haven’t played up to the standards for what I expect of a championship caliber defense. Very Few on the D have....yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Vandy said: If you believe Alf has been playing “great” we definetely have been watching different teams. And I’m a huge Alford fan. Campbell’s played great, Jarrett overall has been very good. Neal has done his job. Everyone else on D (IMO) has underperformed. I'm just saying Desmond Trufant has given up 3 embarrassingly easy TDs in the last 4 games to average WRs, while Alford has only given up one TD all year, the great diving TD by Davanta Adams back in week 2. Not only that but Alford had what would have been a game clinching INT taken off the board against Detroit due to Trufant holding and he had what would have been a really important INT against the Pats taken off the board as well due to a late hit. If not for those two penalties by other players, people would be seeing Alford's season in a whole different light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeetbird Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Peyton said: I'm just saying Desmond Trufant has given up 3 embarrassingly easy TDs in the last 4 games to average WRs, while Alford has only given up one TD all year, the great diving TD by Davanta Adams back in week 2. Not only that but Alford had what would have been a game clinching INT taken off the board against Detroit due to Trufant holding and he had what would have been a really important INT against the Pats taken off the board as well due to a late hit. If not for those two penalties by other players, people would be seeing Alford's season in a whole different light. I've chilled off about Alford. But Trufant's play this year...wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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