Osiruz Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 This was supposed to be our off season huge signing that we paid 8m. So far he has been underwhelming both as a pass rusher and run defender. What's wrong with poe? We could get his same production from someone like hageman or a late round pick. He just hasn't delivered as promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Poe has been collapsing the pocket and drawing double teams. Have you not been watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 No he hasn't, I've seen him getting pushed back multiple times. It's also not showing in the stats. We can get that same impact from hageman, so why pay 8 million for no added benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, osiruz said: No he hasn't, I've seen him getting pushed back multiple times. It's also not showing in the stats. We can get that sa me impact from hageman, so why pay 8 million for no added benefits? It's not showing in the stats? Pocket collapses? Do they suppose to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 we dont have edge rushers who are fully healthy!! also, as per Quinn in off season even our L.B were suppose to blitz ...Brian Poole has been a gem this season!! hes ballin ...we need more folks pick up the intensity!!! I say we need blitz Brady heavy!! get him uncomfortable ...stop their RUN GAME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashburn*Fibonacci Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, Flying Falcon said: Poe has been collapsing the pocket and drawing double teams. Have you not been watching? You said this more nice than I could have. I hate negative threads on our players. But I more so dislike when it's a hate post on something that is completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 It's both. If you see the linebackers begin to cheat there gaps, which is what is happening, it's because the front isn't getting the push or disruption needed. I've seen him collapse the pocket, I've seen him get pushed back also. It's more of an inconsistency there to me. Again, our linebackers aren't tackling well, and not playing there gaps. The not playing there gaps part is most of the time a product of how well the front is playing. Honestly, Grady has outplayed him really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Don't get me wrong, not saying he isn't worth whatever he's getting paid. Not blaming everything on him because the entire defense is playing inconsistently. Just stating that on both fronts, the play IS inconsistent. Not being negative, just real. We need to improve up front on both parts of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boise Falcon Fan Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 He has definitely been inconsistent, and Ajayi's day is a direct result. Many times we were gashed up the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast-N-Da-Sheetz Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Poe might get a lil push up the middle but I have to admit he looks nothing like he did in KC. I wonder if we sign him this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostnmexico Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Quote Poe (born Anne Decatur Danielewski) is an American singer, songwriter, and record producer. Poe's musical style is a blend of rock, jazz, electronica, folk, and hip hop elements combined with intimate lyrical compositions.Many of Poe's songs have been featured in films and on television. Poe first hit the modern rock charts in 1995. Some of her early charting singles included "Angry Johnny", "Trigger Happy Jack", "Hello", and "Hey Pretty." Videos for these singles had heavy rotation on MTV. Poe spent six years with Atlantic Records[19] and is currently on her own label, Repoezessed Music Records. Noteworthy was Poe's early involvement with her online community of fans. Her web site, and the fan sites that supported her early in her career, predated modern social networking platforms and were among the first of their kind. Atlantic Records' Senior Vice President of New Media, Nikki Sleight, referred to Poe's online power and one-on-one communication with thousands attending her concerts as "unheard of and pretty phenomenal" in Sleight's 1997 interview with Web Magazine. In 2004, she co-founded the digital innovations agency Signature Creative Inc with John Gheur. Rumor has it after eating herself into XXXXXL Plus size lengerie, she decided to put on the Pads and seek a career in profesional football where Poe currently anchors the Atlanta Falcons Defense. Poe looks good in the Red and Black! Edited October 17, 2017 by lostnmexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibachi Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, mattyicefalcon said: we dont have edge rushers who are fully healthy!! also, as per Quinn in off season even our L.B were suppose to blitz ...Brian Poole has been a gem this season!! hes ballin ...we need more folks pick up the intensity!!! I say we need blitz Brady heavy!! get him uncomfortable ...stop their RUN GAME! You blitz the GOAT you better get there or his gonna make you pay. We may get away with it once but it will be the only time. Not taking up for him but there's a reason why he has 5 rings and it ain't all cause of the Brainiac Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Boise Falcon Fan said: He has definitely been inconsistent, and Ajayi's day is a direct result. Many times we were gashed up the middle. Duke Riley was a big culprit in those gashes. He was out of control filling his gap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Flying Falcon said: It's not showing in the stats? Pocket collapses? Do they suppose to? Yes like he would have a few sacks. It's very rare that he effects the pocket. So imaginary stats don't count. He's also ineffective against the run, since most teams are averaging 4.5 per carry against our front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Hibachi said: You blitz the GOAT you better get there or his gonna make you pay. We may get away with it once but it will be the only time. Not taking up for him but there's a reason why he has 5 rings and it ain't all cause of the Brainiac Bill earned actually 2 - gifted 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Honestly, Poe has been fine. The problem is you need LBers to make the play behind the double-teamed NT. Duke Riley has been atrocious and is the primary reason for a lot of long Ajayi runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, osiruz said: Yes like he would have a few sacks. It's very rare that he effects the pocket. So imaginary stats don't count. He's also ineffective against the run, since most teams are averaging 4.5 per carry against our front. This is poor analysis. I wont say he's playing lights out football but this analysis wasnt good. For the record, opposing teams have rushed "up the middle" (defined as mid-guard runs on both sides) 44 times this season. They average 3.14 yards per carry. Football Outsiders has us as 14th in the league against those runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostnmexico Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: This is poor analysis. I wont say he's playing lights out football but this analysis wasnt good. For the record, opposing teams have rushed "up the middle" (defined as mid-guard runs on both sides) 44 times this season. They average 3.14 yards per carry. Football Outsiders has us as 14th in the league against those runs. So slightly better than the mean or about average. I think we need a better middle LB and let Deion make a difference from the weakside. I am almost ready to replace Riley with Jordan Tripp! Edited October 17, 2017 by lostnmexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamMills51 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Flying Falcon said: Poe has been collapsing the pocket and drawing double teams. Have you not been watching? Yeah. He's your Star Lotulelei. I expected him to do as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 19 hours ago, mattyicefalcon said: we dont have edge rushers who are fully healthy!! also, as per Quinn in off season even our L.B were suppose to blitz ...Brian Poole has been a gem this season!! hes ballin ...we need more folks pick up the intensity!!! I say we need blitz Brady heavy!! get him uncomfortable ...stop their RUN GAME! You blitz Brady all game he's gonna eat your *** for lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 16 hours ago, lostnmexico said: So slightly better than the mean or about average. I think we need a better middle LB and let Deion make a difference from the weakside. I am almost ready to replace Riley with Jordan Tripp! I'm totally comfortable with Deion where he is. His strengths far outweigh his liabilities. Duke has to grow into his role. Honestly, this might just be what it is for a team thats largely built on speed and swarm. Either we need to find/develop total studs on the DL (hopefully Takk gets there) or we need to be comfortable not being a great run defense. Surer tackling would def help on the edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 17 hours ago, mattyicefalcon said: earned actually 2 - gifted 3 Yet as a fan , you would have still taken those 5 rings if the falcons won them gifted . So doesnt matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caponine Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 21 hours ago, mattyicefalcon said: we dont have edge rushers who are fully healthy!! also, as per Quinn in off season even our L.B were suppose to blitz ...Brian Poole has been a gem this season!! hes ballin ...we need more folks pick up the intensity!!! I say we need blitz Brady heavy!! get him uncomfortable ...stop their RUN GAME! And leave 1 on 1 with gronk . Cooks could be a factor noone is talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 21 hours ago, mattyicefalcon said: we dont have edge rushers who are fully healthy!! also, as per Quinn in off season even our L.B were suppose to blitz ...Brian Poole has been a gem this season!! hes ballin ...we need more folks pick up the intensity!!! I say we need blitz Brady heavy!! get him uncomfortable ...stop their RUN GAME! This season Brady's passer rating is 144.3 while he's under duress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Maybe the guy is getting some push sometimes, but the dude is definitely not earning that monster contract he wants to receive after this year. Not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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