Sven Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I think the falcons can literally do the exact same thing to New England that they did to Green Bay. They can take away the run and force Brady to throw and hit him. They can also play keep away from him as their defense can’t stop our offense (if we execute like we should. Easier said than done right now) We did last year and we still can. The defense was fraudulent last year and now it's actually identifiably bad. They lost Blount. Execute next game. 7 minutes ago, Knight of God said: Freeman was running like crazy but carries HOW MANY TIMES? I addressed this in the OP, but what play do you replace with a Freeman run and how does it improve the game? We ran him twice in the first two series and went three and out because of the O Line giving up two ridiculously stupid sacks (once again, one to Suh who was doubled and one to Wake who wasn't picked up at all). We ran a sweep to Coleman that got exploded because of a missed assignment. Do you replace the Coleman sweep with a Freeman sweep, even though Freeman most likely gets hit in the backfield just like Coleman? Where is the room for more Freeman runs? On 3rd and 13, on 2nd and 20 after he got stuffed on 1st and 20? And if we're replacing the passing plays with Freeman for some reason, where is the room for more Julio catches that everyone is crying about? To get the ball to your guys, you have to be on the field. To get your running back the ball, you have to not hold or get sacked/stuffed on first down, and you can't give up 9 minute long drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Jerz said: As bad as the Pats look they still seem to have luck on their side to gut it out at the end..we got nothing. Nah they got a ******** call that went their way. We can call that luck I guess but that is seriously one of the worst calls I've seen in the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFalcoholic Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Knight of God said: I don't care which one it is. I know I don't believe we have a shot against the Patriots. Depends which version of the Falcons come out and play on Sunday. They can be great or they can be awful. It's up to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Jpowers said: Nah they got a ******** call that went their way. We can call that luck I guess but that is seriously one of the worst calls I've seen in the last few years. I know and that is exactly what I'm talking about. Not to mention we are playing in New England...smh f*** man do you realize what is going to happen if we lose? If we haven't already we may just fall apart..tatf and the team. It's going to be horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Sven said: We did last year and we still can. The defense was fraudulent last year and now it's actually identifiably bad. They lost Blount. Execute next game. I addressed this in the OP, but what play do you replace with a Freeman run and how does it improve the game? We ran him twice in the first two series and went three and out because of the O Line giving up two ridiculously stupid sacks (once again, one to Suh who was doubled and one to Wake who wasn't picked up at all). We ran a sweep to Coleman that got exploded because of a missed assignment. Do you replace the Coleman sweep with a Freeman sweep, even though Freeman most likely gets hit in the backfield just like Coleman? Where is the room for more Freeman runs? On 3rd and 13, on 2nd and 20 after he got stuffed on 1st and 20? And if we're replacing the passing plays with Freeman for some reason, where is the room for more Julio catches that everyone is crying about? To get the ball to your guys, you have to be on the field. To get your running back the ball, you have to not hold or get sacked/stuffed on first down, and you can't give up 9 minute long drives. I think there were too many unnecessary downfield plays. What made us so dangerous last year was using Freeman and Coleman in the shorter ranges and letting them do damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Knight of God said: I think there were too many unnecessary downfield plays. What made us so dangerous last year was using Freeman and Coleman in the shorter ranges and letting them do damage. Was there a single pass to Coleman out of the backfield today? I was in and out with the kids so I missed a few plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Jpowers said: Was there a single pass to Coleman out of the backfield today? I was in and out with the kids so I missed a few plays. If there was, it wasn't enough. I saw so many plays that were just like, "Where are all of the crossing routes?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Knight of God said: If there was, it wasn't enough. I saw so many plays that were just like, "Where are all of the crossing routes?" Those were mismatches we were able to take advantage of all of last year. Those plays we missed when Alonso was on Julio hurt too. That's a match up we would have killed last year repeatedly until we forced them to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Jpowers said: Those were mismatches we were able to take advantage of all of last year. Those plays we missed when Alonso was on Julio hurt too. That's a match up we would have killed last year repeatedly until we forced them to adjust. The RB's had 3 rec total. Coleman just one. Its a far different Offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanadonis Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Remember when our tight ends were threats? Case closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Knight of God said: The RB's had 3 rec total. Coleman just one. Its a far different Offense. That seems almost inexcusable with our tandem. That's what we do better than anyone else. It's a huge part of what makes this offense go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jpowers said: That seems almost inexcusable with our tandem. That's what we do better than anyone else. It's a huge part of what makes this offense go. Its a mess. Then on defense, still tackling issues. Seems much is done after a few yards after the first touch. Pass rush is very inconsistent. Pass defense is basically...our best DB is a second year UDFA that plays NB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Lee Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The O-Libe struggles against physical fronts. Against Arizona and Seattle twice, Shanahan was able to scheme against them. There's very little moving the pocket, draws or screens. The one time they went for some misdirection today, Hall ran free for a TD. In the second half, both the Bills and Phins pinned their ears back because there was just vanilla being offered by the Atlanta O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Money Lee said: The O-Libe struggles against physical fronts. Against Arizona and Seattle twice, Shanahan was able to scheme against them. There's very little moving the pocket, draws or screens. The one time they went for some misdirection today, Hall ran free for a TD. In the second half, both the Bills and Phins pinned their ears back because there was just vanilla being offered by the Atlanta O. Except we lost to Seattle in Seattle during the regular season, and came out totally flat at the beginning of that game. Reminder to everyone in the thread that next week is the anniversary of us sh*tting the bed with a huge lead against a putrid Chargers team, scoring 3 points in the 3rd, 4th, and overtime combined. Two weeks from then is the anniversary of us putting up 15 points against the Eagles. Shannahan was not perfect by any stretch, we got hot at the right time. I hope we get hot at the right time again. Championships are not won in week six, nor are they lost in week six when you're 3-2. EDIT - The one thing I do want to see more of is the Ryan bootlegs. The thing I think has improved is that they're letting Matt call plays at the line more. Edited October 16, 2017 by Sven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 22 minutes ago, Jpowers said: That seems almost inexcusable with our tandem. That's what we do better than anyone else. It's a huge part of what makes this offense go. I actually posted about this earlier this week in response to their run defense being stout. Other teams have had success against Miami passing to their backs when the run wasn't working... On 10/13/2017 at 1:26 AM, PK Manley said: They also gave up 7 catches for 65 yds with Gordon and 10 for 71 with Kamara. They have thumpers at LB, but use our backs as pass catchers and they will eat vs that old *** LB corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Knight of God said: I don't care which one it is. I know I don't believe we have a shot against the Patriots. I can add a few more teams to that list my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RING OF HONOR Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, JD dirtybird21 said: I actually disagree with this. For some reason, I think the falcons will beat New England This has been an unpredictable season so far...look at what the Giants are doing to Denver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT11 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Wow some of you guys been watching falcons and listening to to analyst a long time about this team, Im sure if I asked you to list some of the analyst in this town that you trusted and felt gave tangible technical analysis you would list mostly the same people I would - SO dont take our word for it on a message board...but The reason we saw so many openings and were able to play the way we were last year was the play action absoultely killed teams, because we were easily running the football on them, all it took was 2 or 4 big gash plays in the first quarter and bam off to the races, we arent getting those this year, everything works together - Ive gotten mad and infuriated about this team my whole life, and Im not saying not to blame coaches, but as far as play calling ofcourse we can always take some of those back BUT - one begets the other - we were flawlessly executing plays last year that forced defenses to play straight up because they could not take away one thing from us. Now they are able to take things away, I think the offense will get better - but I was hoping much sooner than this. Im not sure our Def is going to be great ever unless we have a TON of Dlinemene rotating in - we are pretty light in the pants and if they get helmets on our defenders we are always going to have trouble, this is why Smitty still has a job as a Def coord, as much as fast Def is the trend, there is still plenty of ways to play good Def with more traditional approaches. Edited October 16, 2017 by DMT11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlegatv Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, Money Lee said: The O-Libe struggles against physical fronts. Against Arizona and Seattle twice, Shanahan was able to scheme against them. There's very little moving the pocket, draws or screens. The one time they went for some misdirection today, Hall ran free for a TD. In the second half, both the Bills and Phins pinned their ears back because there was just vanilla being offered by the Atlanta O. Dayum. Should have known all this was the liberals' fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Knight of God said: I don't care which one it is. I know I don't believe we have a shot against the Patriots. You watching the same Patriots everyone else has been? I think we looked like trash, but so have they. Arguably worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Knight of God said: I don't care which one it is. I know I don't believe we have a shot against the Patriots. The only saving grace is that bad football is being played across the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, RING OF HONOR said: This has been an unpredictable season so far...look at what the Giants are doing to Denver... Watch, the point spread will open tomorrow as New England being a 2.5 point favorite or something small. Betters will JUMP on New England with the mentality that the falcons are overrated. Falcons will win and Vegas will win again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibachi Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Falcons805 said: Would the game have turned out different if we involved Julio and Freeman more .....who knows at this point. It’s an L in the loss column which really hurts You took the words right out of my mouth, the play makers was working just right on the first half why change it up? I understand we're not a genius as the topic creator here, but COME ON MAN! A little bit of common sense and we would have at least come closer to getting the W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET-ME-A-DB-TD Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 hours ago, stizz said: Sark is just a drunk in over his head. I'm starting to worry more about DQ. A good motivator who looks completely lost when the opposition flips the script and has a penchant to make zero halftime adjustments. Have we been behind at any point at halftime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Falcan Moore said: You watching the same Patriots everyone else has been? I think we looked like trash, but so have they. Arguably worse. So was Miami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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