Dolphins game must win - and upcoming schedule

[TheFatboi]

11 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

Ehh we are not in "must win"

Even with a loss we still have a better conference record and we play them for the first time a few weeks. 

There are no non division/non conferencweek 5  must win games...especially with the way the schedule shakes out having nearly our entire division schedule  bunched up into the last 6 weeks  or so of the schedule.

It’s  a must win in terms of keeping pace with carolina. If we lose the miami game we’re in 2nd place in the division. It’s overall Record 1st THEN divisional record. So if they sit at 4-1 and us at 3-2 we fall behind. NE, GB, and Seattle usually pace their respective divisions like we did last year. It gets rough when you trail a division leader. In other words if we keep pace and lead the division we won’t need help down the stretch. If we lose this game that will be 2 afc east losses and carolina already beat Buffalo and NE. Yes it’s a must win. We have to keep pace with the current division leader. If Carolina beats Philly and we lose 5-1/3-2. Not good. We’d be a game and a half behind. The way carolina is playing every game is must win if we want to win the division.  

[Vandy]

1 hour ago, TheFatboi said:

It’s  a must win in terms of keeping pace with carolina. If we lose the miami game we’re in 2nd place in the division. It’s overall Record 1st THEN divisional record. So if they sit at 4-1 and us at 3-2 we fall behind. NE, GB, and Seattle usually pace their respective divisions like we did last year. It gets rough when you trail a division leader. In other words if we keep pace and lead the division we won’t need help down the stretch. If we lose this game that will be 2 afc east losses and carolina already beat Buffalo and NE. Yes it’s a must win. We have to keep pace with the current division leader. If Carolina beats Philly and we lose 5-1/3-2. Not good. We’d be a game and a half behind. The way carolina is playing every game is must win if we want to win the division.  

Agreed. Plus Securing home field is always very important for playoffs...

[TheFatboi]

43 minutes ago, Vandy said:

Agreed. Plus Securing home field is always very important for playoffs...

Absolutely. 

[Vandy]

3 hours ago, Lornoth said:

Yeah they ended slow too. They weren't a good team last year, they just played in the worst division in football and then beat the worst team in the playoffs to make it to us. 

Seattle has to find a running game before they can be a serious SB contender. 

[Optimus_Cr1m35]

Not sure how any game is really a "Must Win" at this point in the season.

 

I would like to win, I think they would like to win, but "Must Win"?

[g-dawg]

1 hour ago, Optimus_Cr1m35 said:

Not sure how any game is really a "Must Win" at this point in the season.

 

I would like to win, I think they would like to win, but "Must Win"?

when I, and others,  say "must win" - basically I mean - if we don't win, we are facing an uphill battle with less margin for error.   Until you get to 5 losses, nothing is a "must win" per se - but guess I am saying we must win to help put daylight between us and really facing a "must win" - as moronic as that sounds.

[mattyicefalcon]

On 10/9/2017 at 10:10 AM, vel said:

Carolina is the hardest game in that stretch. We should be able to beat NE handily if we play clean football and don't get caught up in the SB narrative. Dallas is tough but it's a home game, which should help. Stop Zeke. That's hard, but doable. 

I'd rank level of difficulty as:

Carolina

New England

Dallas

Seatle

New York

Miami

I think we come out of this 5-1. We're more talented than all of these teams. If we can get through MIA, NE, NYJ 3-0, I think we'll have the momentum to get 5-1. I don't think Seattle is good. It's getting by Carolina on the road and Dallas at home after this rough stretch. 

Let's #RISEUP!

what was the level of difficulty for Bills before we played them?

[mattyicefalcon]

6 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

when I, and others,  say "must win" - basically I mean - if we don't win, we are facing an uphill battle with less margin for error.   Until you get to 5 losses, nothing is a "must win" per se - but guess I am saying we must win to help put daylight between us and really facing a "must win" - as moronic as that sounds.

must win means if you dont, you dont have football to play next week.

I think we are okay in that regards....long way to go brah! 

Doesnt matter how we stack W as long as we have enough by week 16

[achin2be]

Just clean up these dayuuum turn overs.

[vel]

10 minutes ago, mattyicefalcon said:

what was the level of difficulty for Bills before we played them?

Below Dallas in that crop. The Bills front seven was always going to give us fits. We struggle with solid to strong front sevens. They can play ball control and defense, which is something we struggle against if that team has a good front seven. CHI was the same team. 

[crimsonhawk]

6 hours ago, ParanoidAndroid said:

Yup. I was on the Falcons game thread several years ago and people knew DAMMM well that many of us were recording TWD.  

Someone posts "T-Dog just died".  I lost my mind.  But then figured it was already spoiled so stayed on the chat.  Then someone posts "Lori just died too".   I'm pretty sure I blocked said people. 

That's the very thread I was talking about. The mods need to make spoiling a show in the offcial game day thread a bannable offence....believe me, unless we are winning by 100, there will be more than enough drama to go around without ruining another show for someone.

[Jerz]

5 hours ago, Lornoth said:

Yeah they ended slow too. They weren't a good team last year, they just played in the worst division in football and then beat the worst team in the playoffs to make it to us. 

So are you saying it's a farce to think they can beat us in Seattle? You're saying they're not good because they made it to the divisionals?

[falconidae]

11 hours ago, Peyton said:

Considering the state of the Dolphins vs. the state of the Falcons, a loss in this game would be the worst regular season loss in franchise history in my opinion.

So yeah, I agree, this is a must win.

Think the Vick led falcons getting blown out in KC, with 2 different RBs scoring 4 TDs each would still be in the running.

The "Wing-T" loss to Carolina in 06 stands out as well. Weinke completed 4 of 7 passes, they ran it 52 times.

And, you're right, a loss would be really worrisome

 

[ParanoidAndroid]

32 minutes ago, crimsonhawk said:

That's the very thread I was talking about. The mods need to make spoiling a show in the offcial game day thread a bannable offence....believe me, unless we are winning by 100, there will be more than enough drama to go around without ruining another show for someone.

Falcons were like 8-0 at the time too. There was no way I was missing the game. 

[SamMills51]

On 10/9/2017 at 1:08 PM, g-dawg said:

for all those that were throwing dirt on Cam - they are eating their words right now.

[Lornoth]

50 minutes ago, Jerz said:

So are you saying it's a farce to think they can beat us in Seattle? You're saying they're not good because they made it to the divisionals?

I'm not saying they can't beat us, literally any team could potentially beat any other team. What I'm disputing is that they'll magically turn into a better team as the season goes on, because that didn't happen last year. 

[Jerz]

3 minutes ago, Lornoth said:

I'm not saying they can't beat us, literally any team could potentially beat any other team. What I'm disputing is that they'll magically turn into a better team as the season goes on, because that didn't happen last year. 

Then I guess we magically won't get better either.....

Seattle starts the season off slow every year. They are still a good team believe it or not as they were last season we were just better in the playoffs. This season we don't look no where near as good as we did in the playoffs and granted that our offense usually starts the season red hot what we see now may be here to stay. Right now is only speculation that we'll right the ship after the bye.

[falconidae]

4 minutes ago, Jerz said:

Then I guess we magically won't get better either.....

Seattle starts the season off slow every year. They are still a good team believe it or not as they were last season we were just better in the playoffs. This season we don't look no where near as good as we did in the playoffs and granted that our offense usually starts the season red hot what we see now may be here to stay. Right now is only speculation that we'll right the ship after the bye.

Think you can reasonably expect the offense to get much better with Schaeder back in the line up and Schweitzer gaining experience. And Sark gaining experience.  And they're 4th in per game yardage and 8th in per game scoring as it is.

 

[Lornoth]

10 minutes ago, Jerz said:

Then I guess we magically won't get better either.....

Seattle starts the season off slow every year. They are still a good team believe it or not as they were last season we were just better in the playoffs. This season we don't look no where near as good as we did in the playoffs and granted that our offense usually starts the season red hot what we see now may be here to stay. Right now is only speculation that we'll right the ship after the bye.

Again, I wasn't talking about the Falcons at all. What we do or don't do does not change how good any other team is. Though for the record, we have a much better hope of improving because our only issue right now is injuries and settling into a new offensive scheme. Seattle just doesn't have the right players.

[Jerz]

10 minutes ago, Lornoth said:

Seattle just doesn't have the right players.

Right players? Seattle has holes just like every other team in the league. But I know for one thing they sure aren't lacking in the defensive department. They just need an OL and a good RB. 

[Jerz]

16 minutes ago, falconidae said:

Think you can reasonably expect the offense to get much better with Schaeder back in the line up and Schweitzer gaining experience. And Sark gaining experience.  And they're 4th in per game yardage and 8th in per game scoring as it is.

 

I'll give you Sark getting a better feel for playcalling, but I think missing Schraeder has been an overblown cop out. Ryan is not constantly fearing for his life like he was in 2015 he is only missing 1 guy on the OL. Schweitzer is a Chester clone. If Ryans play dips this much because of 1 guy on the OL is injured then he is going to have a very rough career from hear on out. 

[falconidae]

2 minutes ago, Jerz said:

I'll give you Sark getting a better feel for playcalling, but I think missing Schraeder has been an overblown cop out. Ryan is not constantly fearing for his life like he was in 2015 he is only missing 1 guy on the OL. Schweitzer is a Chester clone. If Ryans play dips this much because of 1 guy on the OL is injured then he is going to have a very rough career from hear on out. 

You got a RT who hasn't been with the team 2 months and a RG who is starting his 5th game ever-that's a lot of inexperience on the right side of the line., then, in the last game, Ryan lost how top two WRs, that's 4 different pieces from last year. That is a lot to overcome.

Ryan would look much better without 3 tip drill INTs.

[Lornoth]

17 minutes ago, Jerz said:

Right players? Seattle has holes just like every other team in the league. But I know for one thing they sure aren't lacking in the defensive department. They just need an OL and a good RB. 

And, again, as I've already said, a good defense does not a good team make. Without an oline, RB's, or receivers, it doesn't matter much. 

[Jerz]

4 minutes ago, falconidae said:

You got a RT who hasn't been with the team 2 months and a RG who is starting his 5th game ever-that's a lot of inexperience on the right side of the line., then, in the last game, Ryan lost how top two WRs, that's 4 different pieces from last year. That is a lot to overcome.

Ryan would look much better without 3 tip drill INTs.

Those INTs are out of the question most of us understand what happened. But it's the routine throws Ryan is inconsistent with..even in a lot of clean pockets. Our OL hasn't even been playing badly at all or it has been nothing that Ryan can't overcome easily. This abyssmal line play is overblown. Other QB's are still slingin it behind worse OL.

[Jerz]

6 minutes ago, Lornoth said:

And, again, as I've already said, a good defense does not a good team make. Without an oline, RB's, or receivers, it doesn't matter much. 

Seattle has receivers and Wilson is one of the best Qb's in the league. Seattle is still a good team.