Stand for the flag

[FalconinPA 12,699]

3 minutes ago, Theyhateme : ) said:

I'm a veteran and a black man.

Same here, not that it matters

[CellarBoor 377]

2 minutes ago, red falcon said:

Thanks for your service friend ive been in for 15 years now i do not feel disrespected. You can kneel and still support the troops.

Right. The protest concerns police brutality, it was never about the military. These players have no issue with the military.

[red falcon 4,967]

1 minute ago, g-dawg said:

You are right, NFL will not die from "knees/fabric" as you so eloquently put it.   However, the NFL will be severely hurt if their viewership shrinks and the future TV contracts get smaller.

The NFL has enough problems w/ CTE lawsuits, losing millenials to other interests, etc.  They don't need this one.

Let the viewership decline for the rest of the year and see what happens - Follow the money.

Brother the sad part is that people are upset about them kneeling. That upsets them so much that they will no longer watch the game? How simple are they? Are their not more important things in life. 

People are upset because they feel they are not treated right, not to mention being peovoked by the president. Doesnt he have bigger issues to deal with? Its all a smoke screen.

[JDaveG 43,417]

20 minutes ago, birdz4i said:

[Jesus 26,424]

Just now, g-dawg said:

You don't think the NFL can lose money over this in the long run?  really?   depends on the duration.  I believe they could.

Have you met precedent no attention span? He's already given up on this crusade. Next week it won't even be an issue.

[Ezekiel 25:17 17,613]

16 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

the protest is stupid but these are mostly 20+ year old kids who don't have a clue, so I excuse their ignorance.   Also, race-baiting industry is at an all-time high.

If you want to protest police brutality, go for it - but leave the American flag out of it.

I am not boycotting the NFL and certainly not the Falcons - however, many casual fans will be turned off by this and it will hurt overall numbers - less eyeballs equals less contract TV money = less salary cap = less monies to the players.   So feel free to protest but you are just hurting yourself.

I also feel they could find a better way to effect change, other than taking a knee before a game that pretty much does nothing. 

How about actually organizing events where the two opposing sides can sit, talk and get to learn about the others situation. Remove the Them Vs Us mentality on both sides.

[slamee101 7,143]

1 minute ago, Jesus said:

Their ratings were through the roof yesterday. News all over the world was about the precedent's unprovoked attack on a sports league. This is the best press they've gotten in years. For once the organization known for giving terrible brain damage to people was the victim. Also:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20815108/alejandro-villanueva-pittsburgh-steelers-top-selling-gear-standing-national-anthem

No matter how you shake....the NFL is making money.

This is what's funny to me.  The myth that the NFL will suffer.  You know how many times folks have claimed they're boycotting the league.  When does that ever happen?  I mean REALLY happen???  The NFL is a well-oiled machine and people pointing to slight ratings dips seem to miss that ratings for TV are down across the board.  NFL still has the top rated shows with their games and that's even when the product is just mediocre.  

 

 @ the guy claiming he's boycotting but still watching the Falcons.  

[achin2be 497]

What sux about the whole debate is there is no end game.

[shc 2,276]

You are like the guy that sold his 10% share of Apple stock for $800 2 weeks after they launched,

[Tryonis 215]

Just now, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

How about actually organizing events where the two opposing sides can sit, talk and get to learn about the others situation. Remove the Them Vs Us mentality on both sides.

^

[ATLIEN404 211]

28 minutes ago, caver50 said:

Just found out that Jarette and Poe knelt down for the national anthem, I'm done

 

Good! Bye Bye....Deuces....I'll holla....

[THEHEADCOACH 3,357]

Why do we keep seeing this BS? Wasn't this prohibited and wasn't there supposed to be penalties for it? I guess i read it wrong, because it continues.

[Godzilla1985 6,706]

22 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

the protest is stupid but these are mostly 20+ year old kids who don't have a clue, so I excuse their ignorance.   Also, race-baiting industry is at an all-time high.

If you want to protest police brutality, go for it - but leave the American flag out of it.

I am not boycotting the NFL and certainly not the Falcons - however, many casual fans will be turned off by this and it will hurt overall numbers - less eyeballs equals less contract TV money = less salary cap = less monies to the players.   So feel free to protest but you are just hurting yourself.

Yeah I agree. My Falcons are my outlet. Wish they’d kept this political bull. **** on the so called news networks 

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[JDaveG 43,417]

2 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

I also feel they could find a better way to effect change, other than taking a knee before a game that pretty much does nothing. 

How about actually organizing events where the two opposing sides can sit, talk and get to learn about the others situation. Remove the Them Vs Us mentality on both sides.

What?

Burn the witch!

(J/K -- we need way more of this).

[Osiruz 10,079]

[achin2be 497]

Boycotting is useless. The NFL is bullet proof. It's kinda like getting mad at your cell phone company and threatening to cancel and switch. You think they give a rats A@$

[FalconinPA 12,699]

2 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

You don't think the NFL can lose money over this in the long run?  really?   depends on the duration.  I believe they could.

Anything is a possibly, but I honestly don't think this will affect them either way. They are a cow cash and this **** will blow over eventually. JMHO

[slamee101 7,143]

This thread has had a longer shelf life than I expected.

[red falcon 4,967]

5 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

I also feel they could find a better way to effect change, other than taking a knee before a game that pretty much does nothing. 

How about actually organizing events where the two opposing sides can sit, talk and get to learn about the others situation. Remove the Them Vs Us mentality on both sides.

Has it  not brought awareness? Could the president just have kept his mouth shut about the issue? No hes on another campaign tour for the next election....... how stupid does that sound.....?

Edited September 25, 2017 by red falcon

[Jesus 26,424]

5 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

I also feel they could find a better way to effect change, other than taking a knee before a game that pretty much does nothing. 

How about actually organizing events where the two opposing sides can sit, talk and get to learn about the others situation. Remove the Them Vs Us mentality on both sides.

Kaep said he was doing this to start a discussion. He did that and now says he is done kneeling. Those picking up his banner want to continue forcing a discussion. The grand cheeto just wants applause lines at his rallies. He doesn't care what the outcome is as long as he looks like a hero to certain people.

[FalconinPA 12,699]

Just now, slamee101 said:

This thread has had a longer shelf life than I expected.

lol. me too. I was thing during my last post that it would be deleted while I was writing.

[Ezekiel 25:17 17,613]

Just now, red falcon said:

Has it  not brought awareness? Could the president just have kept his mouth shut about the issue? No hes non another campaign tour for the next election....... how stupid does that sound.....?

Gonna press eject from this thread right now... As we are headed down the political highway! 

[red falcon 4,967]

Just wait 5 min before you watch the game if it bothers you that much.

[g-dawg 43,250]

1 minute ago, red falcon said:

Brother the sad part is that people are upset about them kneeling. That upsets them so much that they will no longer watch the game? How simple are they? Are their not more important things in life. 

People are upset because they feel they are not treated right, not to mention being peovoked by the president. Doesnt he have bigger issues to deal with? Its all a smoke screen.

the election is over - it was over 10 months ago.   Our President,  like him or not, is unfiltered and says stuff that is on his mind and he feels those not standing are disrespecting the American Flag.   While it may not be your opinion, it is shared by many.    I think it was a rather stupid thing for a President to say - but on the flipside - I don't really think it moved the meter one way or the other on the overall debate of standing/sitting.

As far as the overall debate, players can do what they want and should be allowed to do so - just don't whine if you hurt your team, the NFL and your overall marketability.   If athletes/actors want to share their political views emphatically  - please do so - just don't be miffed if it affects your pocketbook.

[Knight of God 53,782]

I didn't protest for Kaepernick and I won't protest against protest. Do what makes you feel good. I don't give a crap.