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Has any team gone 0-4 in Preseason and did well in Regular?


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I believe there's no correlation. I wouldnt even pay attention to the score. The only thing to look at is if guys can hold up physically against NFL guys and can physically do NFL things. So for OL it's important to see if guys can go against other NFL Defensive Lineman and vise versa. For DB's it's to see if they can keep up in coverage. It's also important to see if guys look lost out there. Outcome doesn't matter. I know we didn't even gameplan at all this preseason. It was legitimate practice like any other team period at practice except tackling is to the ground.

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Our first team defense has looked, for the most part, spectacular. Our first team offense scored on their first two possessions and then found several things to work on against a tough D.

I go with the eye test, not the final number, in pre-season.

Not concerned at all.

(Another way to think about it: what if we win tomorrow in a blow-out and are 1-3 but only the back-ups played? What if we were 3-0 right now but Matt had looked like he did against the Cards in all 3 games? Are we suddenly better off to start the season just because we have a better record?)

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There is zero correlation between preseason and reg season imo.

Peyton Manning's Colts won the most regular season games during the 00's (7 consecutive seasons of 12 wins or more), and I believe they had the worst preseason record during that span. 

A lot depends on the philosophy of the coaching staff. It appears that DQ is primarily focused on assessing individual performances and deciding how he can put each player in the best spot to succeed.

Doesnt look like we've game planned much either.

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19 minutes ago, BCEagleATLFalcon said:

Our first team defense has looked, for the most part, spectacular. Our first team offense scored on their first two possessions and then found several things to work on against a tough D.

I go with the eye test, not the final number, in pre-season.

Not concerned at all.

(Another way to think about it: what if we win tomorrow in a blow-out and are 1-3 but only the back-ups played? What if we were 3-0 right now but Matt had looked like he did against the Cards in all 3 games? Are we suddenly better off to start the season just because we have a better record?)

Stop being so logical.   You'll confuse a good percentage of posters here.

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4 minutes ago, camfalcon said:

There is zero correlation between preseason and reg season imo.

Peyton Manning's Colts won the most regular season games during the 00's (7 consecutive seasons of 12 wins or more), and I believe they had the worst preseason record during that span. 

A lot depends on the philosophy of the coaching staff. It appears that DQ is primarily focused on assessing individual performances and deciding how he can put each player in the best spot to succeed.

Doesnt look like we've game planned much either.

Wut? Y woodnt he wan win?

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3 minutes ago, octoslash said:

Stop being so logical.   You'll confuse a good percentage of posters here.

Ha.

In a measure of fairness to those who are worried about pre-season, I did forget to say one thing.

I AM slightly concerned with special teams. Because that's not so much game-planning as sound fundamental concepts.

We need to clean up a lot of what we've seen in pre-season before Chicago.

Other than that, I'm not worried and I am HUNGRY for a real game.

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22 minutes ago, BCEagleATLFalcon said:

Our first team defense has looked, for the most part, spectacular. Our first team offense scored on their first two possessions and then found several things to work on against a tough D.

I go with the eye test, not the final number, in pre-season.

Not concerned at all.

(Another way to think about it: what if we win tomorrow in a blow-out and are 1-3 but only the back-ups played? What if we were 3-0 right now but Matt had looked like he did against the Cards in all 3 games? Are we suddenly better off to start the season just because we have a better record?)

Nah It was a tip drill pass, too bad no other Falcons were there to catch it. I do love that 5 plays later the defense forced a fumble inside the 15. Matt has no need to fear, the defense has his back this year.

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5 minutes ago, camfalcon said:

There is zero correlation between preseason and reg season imo.

I did see a story on this somewhere and I believe it was out of 60 something teams that went 0-4 in the preseason, only 8 made it to the playoffs. So that's enough of a difference there there does seem to be come correlation. Or at least I'd be a little concerned if my team went 4-0.

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2 minutes ago, Jesus said:

Nah It was a tip drill pass, too bad no other Falcons were there to catch it. I do love that 5 plays later the defense forced a fumble inside the 15. Matt has no need to fear, the defense has his back this year.

I'm not zeroed in on the interception. Every series with the first team offense just looked "off." Matt's passer rating was, I believe, under 15.

I'm not worried. It was a pre-season game against a good D, and some of it was clearly trying things out.

And I totally agree about our defense, I've made that same point in several other threads.

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50 minutes ago, Statick said:

The games aren't played for an outcome of win or lose. Coaches do not coach to win in pre-season games. They spend hours making a list of major and minor details they want to bring out in a player(s) or a specific play or scenario.

I don't understand why this concept is so hard to grasp! I noticed last preseason that Quinn was doing just this as he played a lot of guys heavily in these games to fully evaluate them.

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Article from Dec 2014 about correlation of preseason success with regular season.  Looks at stats for all teams over 10 season (2003-2013).  Not much difference between being 4-0 and 0-4.

https://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/is-pre-season-in-the-nfl-an-indicator-of-regular-season-performance.aspx

 

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Correlation or no correlation, the Cards game has gotten me a wee bit concerned. The first team offense looked extremely shaky; Matt wasn't slightly off, he was waaaay off.

On D, the CB depth does not look all that great. So yeah, I am a little worried.

That being said though, last preseason in the 3rd game, we looked horrible against the dolphins, and look at how the reg season turned out. So let's see.

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