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Why are some of y'all so mad at Kap?

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33 minutes ago, The Great American said:

What percentage of cops are bad?

https://www.wickedlocal.com/x1959832320/Good-cop-bad-cop-Statistics-show-less-than-1-percent-of-police-officers-run-afoul-of-the-law

While the cases make headlines, experts say the number of police officers who run afoul of the laws they’re sworn to uphold is low.

“We’re finding the numbers are pretty constant,” said Neal Trautman, executive director of the National Institute of Ethics and author of “How to be a Great Cop.” “It is less than 1 percent.”

"The percentage is less then 1% , lower then any other profession. The reason it looks like more is that every incident , before its proven , is broadcast all over the news. 

Unfortunately, you can never have 100% “good Cops” since people are so different but the percentage of police officers that are bad are lower then congress, clergy, lawyers, and even firefighters so not to bad."

 

People who are judging the 99% based on the actions of 1% are really suspectible to pop culture.  

 

 

Thanks for proving my point.

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You are a hoot. One is too many. And if the 99%+ ignore the few, then the 99%+ are bad by definition because their job is to stop crime,  not to enable it. But you know that. Nice troll game,  though.

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3 hours ago, The Great American said:

Thank you for proving mine!!  

You have no retort so you resort to toddler-level comebacks.

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I hate the o line being able to help push the ball carrier forward. It should end the play when any player joins the pile to push

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37 minutes ago, The Great American said:

That very similar to what you said.

Again, it's not what I said. It's you repeating like a 4-year old.

 

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8 hours ago, Scrunchomarx said:

I hate the o line being able to help push the ball carrier forward. It should end the play when any player joins the pile to push

It's always been in football, why would it bother you now ? It's a part of the game.

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40 minutes ago, caver50 said:

It's always been in football, why would it bother you now ? It's a part of the game.

It has but that don’t mean it’s cool. Those o lineman get some good shots in that they’d call oN the defender

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"Prejudices are all the same. Whether you’re talking about a big hairy biker, a person of different ethnicity than yours, or a police officer. Your life experiences have created an opinion based upon the people you encounter. (Or how gullible you are to current media trends.)  In my experiences with police officers, I choose to believe that is a very small portion of law enforcement officers, and that the rest shouldn’t be judged upon the minority. If you have a fear of police officers, you should probably stop doing illegal things. That will greatly lessen your fears. Most police officers chose their profession out of an overwhelming sense of service and protection, a desire to help make the world a better, safer place. They should be honored and respected."  (Sorry, lost link) 

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4 hours ago, The Great American said:

 

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"Prejudices are all the same. Whether you’re talking about a big hairy biker, a person of different ethnicity than yours, or a police officer. Your life experiences have created an opinion based upon the people you encounter. (Or how gullible you are to current media trends.)  In my experiences with police officers, I choose to believe that is a very small portion of law enforcement officers, and that the rest shouldn’t be judged upon the minority. If you have a fear of police officers, you should probably stop doing illegal things. That will greatly lessen your fears. Most police officers chose their profession out of an overwhelming sense of service and protection, a desire to help make the world a better, safer place. They should be honored and respected."  (Sorry, lost link) 

What do you propose to do about the very small percentage? You admit that there are bad cops but don't want to do anything about them. Reprehensible.

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Just now, JayOzOne said:

What do you propose to do about the very small percentage? You admit that there are bad cops but don't want to do anything about them. Reprehensible.

They would have to be darn near perfect to beat 1%.  Tell me one occopation that is 100% error free.  Admit it, these guys have tough jobs. Police are humans and they're dealing with humans.  Mistakes are going to happen.      

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8 minutes ago, The Great American said:

They would have to be darn near perfect to beat 1%.  Tell me one occopation that is 100% error free.  Admit it, these guys have tough jobs. Police are humans and they're dealing with humans.  Mistakes are going to happen.      

I said it. Several times on this thread. Lots of people make mistakes. Running away from the cops is a mistake but you suggest it's an excuse for the cop to throw people off of rooftops but think there's no consequence necessary when a cop makes a mistake that is as bad or worse. Shaking my head at your blind devotion to bad cops because there happen to be more good ones than bad.

Most doctors are good at what they do. But if a doctor who makes a mistake in surgery is held to account. He's not perfect but he's also not excused for taking a life due to negligence or malfeasance.

Most construction workers do a good job, but a crane operator who drops an I-beam on a crew of workers, killing some is investigated by OSHA and will at least be fired, if not charged with negligent homicide. Not perfect, but mistakes have consequences.

The majority of lawyers do their jobs well if they are to be in business for long. But if a lawyer failed to file documents on a timely basis and cost his clients millions, he's going to be fired and have a helluva time finding another job. He's not perfect but knows going in that there are consequences and repercussions for a mistake that glaring. 

If you were the victim of a bad lawyer, crane operator or doctor, you'd demand a pound of flesh because it's not an excuse to say that mistakes happen. You know that cops are in the same bucket. You and I both know how full of it you are to maintain that it's okay to let cops get away when they make "mistakes" that cause grievous bodily harm and death. Maybe the mistake needs to happen to you for you to admit it, but you're just nut hugging. You're better than that, despite your protestations to the contrary.

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13 minutes ago, The Great American said:

They would have to be darn near perfect to beat 1%.  Tell me one occopation that is 100% error free.  Admit it, these guys have tough jobs. Police are humans and they're dealing with humans.  Mistakes are going to happen.      

By the way, when the 99% rally around the 1%, then they're just as bad as the pigs. And it's been shown plenty of times that snitches get stitches in the world of law enforcement. If you reported me for kicking a subdued suspect in his face and put my job in jeopardy, you would be the one run off the police department and I'd be subject to a one week paid "administrative leave". In that scenario, the police chief, investigators and ultimate decision-maker are ALL BAD.

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23 hours ago, Scrunchomarx said:

Aaron Donald had the guy off his feet. He should’ve gone limp fish 

No matter, 10 more personal foul by the Rams wouldn't have stopped the she-it show we saw yesterday.

#firequinnnow

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18 minutes ago, JayOzOne said:

If you were the victim of a bad lawyer, crane operator or doctor, you'd demand a pound of flesh because it's not an excuse to say that mistakes happen. You know that cops are in the same bucket. You and I both know how full of it you are to maintain that it's okay to let cops get away when they make "mistakes" that cause grievous bodily harm and death. Maybe the mistake needs to happen to you for you to admit it, but you're just nut hugging. You're better than that, despite your protestations to the contrary.

I've NEVER, not once advocated that police not be reprimanded for their mistakes.  Heck, I even said the rooftop cop was going to be fired.  Not sure where you pulled that one from.  When my dad served, he was reprimanded plenty of times!!  LOL! 

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5 minutes ago, The Great American said:

I've NEVER, not once advocated that police not be reprimanded for their mistakes.  Heck, I even said the rooftop cop was going to be fired.  Not sure where you pulled that one from.  When my dad served, he was reprimanded plenty of times!!  LOL! 

You have suggested that there is no problem. You aren't stupid enough to believe that Kaep protested the good cops but your response to "Why are some of y'all so mad at Kaep" is to suggest that there's no cause for concern since most cops aren't bad is disingenuous at best. If you recognize that police should be "reprimanded for their mistakes", then you should have zero problems signing on for a systemic change to make sure it happens.

But you'd prefer to pretend that those on the other side are smearing all cops (we're not) instead of making a simple attestation that a cop who kills someone while failing to follow his training and those who lie to cover up his crime should not be cops. They are responsible for maintaining compliance with the law but they don't have to comply with it? Okay.

If your dad was reprimanded for punching someone who was handcuffed or beating someone for staring at him during an arrest, then your dad was a bad cop and should have done something else to pay your bills. Glad to have this dialogue. I don't expect to change your mind, by the way, so I hope this doesn't become a contentious discussion at any point. Check me at any time if something I say becomes personal because that's not my intent.

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My dad was a fine man and he did none of the above.  He made mistakes like we all do in the work place and he had to answer to his superiors .... like we all do.  Btw, bad cops should be weeded.

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I would never disrespect your old man for his service. The profession is not and never has been the problem. Some of us think that holding them to at least the standard that the rest of us maintain in a law abiding society is not a big ask. But if a cop pulls over an off-duty cop for DUI, he's not likely to arrest him because he doesn't want him to lose his job. The same happens for spousal abuse and pretty much anything other than murder and child porn. The lack of consequences overlaps to when they're in uniform and some take advantage of it. It's the opposite of what most consider to be the ideal of LEO character and performance.

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6 Awesome Kids Making a Difference in Their Communities  

https://weemagine.com/2016/08/25/6-awesome-kids-making-a-difference-in-their-communities/

Small Hands, Big Imaginations.  Here are some real examples of children giving back to their communities in big ways!

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Let’s face it, sometimes it’s difficult to even get our kids to share. As parents, empathy and altruism are some of the hardest lessons to teach.  However, those traits are essential to becoming a well-rounded adult. Here are some real examples of children giving back to their communities in big ways! Good job, Moms and Dads!

1. Khloe Thompson

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At just 9 years old, Khloe Thompson launched, Khloe Kares, a charity initiative to hand out bags filled with important items to give to homeless women.

“I would pass the same homeless people all the time on my way to school,” Khloe explained to Upworthy. “And I would ask my mom, ‘What can I do to help?'” 

According to her website, “Khloe’s Kare Bags… are made and designed by Khloe and her grandma. The purpose of the Kare bags is to fill the bags up with items we use on a daily basis and give them to homeless women on the streets. Items include; soap, lotion, tooth brush and tooth paste, feminine products, socks etc. Instead of giving these items in a large plastic bag Khloe thought every women should have a nice sturdy bag to put their stuff in.”

Kudos to Khloe and her mom to putting a plan into action!

2. Jahkil Naeem Jackson 

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Like Khloe, 8 year old Jahkil Jackson also felt a need to do something about his town’s homeless population.

“It just made me feel sad, sad to see other people on the street just lying down and not having a home or a bed,” the now 8-year-old said. “Homeless people need to have more people helping them.”

With the help of his family, Jahkil set a goal to hand out 1,000 “Blessing Bags” to the homeless before the end of summer. As of August, Jahkil had passed out 735 bags filled with toothbrushes, toothpaste, socks, combs, shampoo, water, sanitary napkins, towels and other items donated to him by others in the community and organizations.

Great work, Jahkil!

3. Robbie Novak

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Also known as Kid President, Robbie Novack, now 12 years old, is the adorable little powerhouse actor behind a series of YouTube videos and in a television show, produced by Soul Pancake. Robbie delivers positive and inspirational messages to his viewers that are sure to brighten your day. Though you would’t know it by his positive attitude, according to Wikipedia, Robbie “suffers from osteogenesis imperfecta, which makes him susceptible to bone damage. He has experienced over 70 fractures and has been a victim of bullying.”

Way to go, Robbie, for succeeding in spite of immeasurable setbacks!

4. Egypt “Ify” Ufele

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According to her website, at a young age, Ify was diagnosed with a critical asthmatic health condition that impacted her weight and appearance.  Although she overcame the illness, when she returned to school, she was bullied mercilessly by some of her peers.  In response, Ify and her amazing mom began Bully Chasers, an organization that supports youth who have been bullied and gives them a platform to speak out against it.  Ify didn’t just stop there! With the help of her grandmother, Ify launched her own line of clothing, called Chubiiline, and has since become a trailblazer as possibly the only child designer to dress plus-size models at one of the world’s most prestigious fashion shows.
 
 
Amazing work, Ify.
 
 
 

5. Quenten McGee

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Quentin made a seemingly simple decision to mow lawns of people in need.

“I feel good about helping people out that really can’t help themselves,” Quentin said.

In just two months, he’s mowed 36 lawns. Quentin’s small act of kindness gained the attention of the Marion, Ohio Police Department, the mayor, and people across the country.

Keep up the great work, Quentin!

6. Morgan McCane

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Morgan McCane was just an average teenager girl who was tired of seeing teenage boys with their pants hanging down.  But Morgan decided to do something about it! The 15-year-old teenager started Girls Against Boys Sagging (GABS).

According to the GABS Facebook page, “the founders and supports of GABS are dedicated to educating, encouraging, and inspiring girls and women of all ages, all over the country, to use their voices to challenge their friends and family members that “sag,” to pull up their pants.”

“I feel like women are the biggest influence on our young boys. If women could get voting rights, why can’t they help make boys pull up their pants? I met some girls that do like the boys sagging, but some of the other girls I met say, they’re too scared to take a stand.”

Awesome job, Morgan!

 

This is how you make a change without dividing a nation!!  

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