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Why are some of y'all so mad at Kap?

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5 hours ago, Bunchy Carter said:

I pulled my daughter out of public school 5 yrs ago when she was tasked with writing a report on a prominent figure in black history. She chose Marcus Garvey. Her teacher said: "He's not on the list." She told me about it and it made me curious as to who WAS on the list...

Kanye West was on the list. I spoke to the teacher, who referred me to the vice principal. The vice principal told me I wasn't "looking at it from the proper perspective" because they were trying to relate" to the students.

My daughter hadn't ever heard of Kanye West. Pulled her out right then and there. We've been homeschooling since then.

How in da he!! are you gonna tell my kid they can’t do a report and learn more about somebody that actually uplifted people versus some dude who’s whole being is clownish!?? 

That one would have pi$$ed me off too!

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1 hour ago, The Great American said:

I don't want to get into the pros and cons of Black History Month but this guy has me thinking:

Why does Black History Month exist?

https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/opinion/local-opinion-columnists/why-does-black-history-month-exist/

"We can’t depend on the public education system alone to teach or instill culture to students. The bulk of that should fall on the students’ parents and family. Your home should be the nest for cultivating culture and heritage be it European, African, Asian or Latin.

Simply learning the trials, triumphs and tragedies of a people will help generate respect and understanding, which leads to unity." 

 

It's frustrating. When I hear about people complaining that immigrants don't embrace "American culture", it never fails to amaze me that the phrase is inclusive and embracing should be done by both sides. We still have Irish neighborhoods and Jewish and Italian and Polish and every kind of neighborhood. And that's part of the beauty of a multicultural society. It just amazes me that each of those (and others) came here to escape harsh conditions elsewhere. But in the heart of every ethnic congregation is the desire to look down on others based on national origin, race, language, religion or ethnicity.

SMH.

It'd be nice if history could be inclusive year-round. A lot of people, black and white, gripe about why Black History Month is mandated. It'd be nice if it didn't have to be compulsory. But when some states insist that the word "slaves" be replaced in text books by the phrase "workers from Africa", it both makes you marvel at the height of the mountain before you and gives you a second wind to keep climbing. Race clearly remains important to those who insists it doesn't. And as a fan of history, I'm p*ssed that I was never taught about the contributions of Asians and Hispanics and others to our country's success.

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2 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

How in da he!! are you gonna tell my kid they can’t do a report and learn more about somebody that actually uplifted people versus some dude who’s whole being is clownish!?? 

That one would have pi$$ed me off too!

In hindsight, I'm glad it happened. Pulling her out and starting the homeschool process was the BEST decision for us. Our youngest hasn't ever stepped foot in a public school. It's been six years now. 

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14 hours ago, Bunchy Carter said:

In hindsight, I'm glad it happened. Pulling her out and starting the homeschool process was the BEST decision for us. Our youngest hasn't ever stepped foot in a public school. It's been six years now. 

If you have the option, it is a great way to go. 

The only problem is that most don’t, along with we pay taxes so that they DO properly educate and challenge our kids. 

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21 hours ago, The Great American said:

Had to do a little research and discovered Marcus Garvey had some interesting views on Communism.  And I'm surprised Kanye  West  made the list.  There are some really good Black Great Americans much more worthy, IMO.

 

Garvey wrote/spoke about the dangers of communism and socialism for Black people in America. On the whole, he felt that vigorous capitalism was the best way for the global African to gain and keep self determination. 

I think his analysis (I'm paraphrasing) was: "You dance with the girl you came with." Capitalism is currently the Belle of the ball, so Black people had best start dancing.

His full throated rejections of communism/socialism was also about being betrayed by left wing whites. That's a common thread through the American black struggle. El Hajj Malik El Shabazz (AKA Malcolm X) constantly warned American blacks about "allying" with so called "liberal" white Americans.

Martin Luther King ALSO talked about the hypocrisy of the white American left. Lol, you won't see those quotes very often...but he talked about it more than once.

*Don't mean to derail the thread*

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11 minutes ago, Bunchy Carter said:

Garvey wrote/spoke about the dangers of communism and socialism for Black people in America. On the whole, he felt that vigorous capitalism was the best way for the global African to gain and keep self determination. 

I think his analysis (I'm paraphrasing) was: "You dance with the girl you came with." Capitalism is currently the Belle of the ball, so Black people had best start dancing.

His full throated rejections of communism/socialism was also about being betrayed by left wing whites. That's a common thread through the American black struggle. El Hajj Malik El Shabazz (AKA Malcolm X) constantly warned American blacks about "allying" with so called "liberal" white Americans.

Martin Luther King ALSO talked about the hypocrisy of the white American left. Lol, you won't see those quotes very often...but he talked about it more than once.

*Don't mean to derail the thread*

Goes back to my thoughts about the GOP missing the colored folks train. 

It’s so funny that whenever I go out and just set at a bar with other guys how the ones I get along with the best outside of other guys of color seem to be white republican leaning guys. 

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25 minutes ago, The Great American said:

Just out of curiosity,  have you heard of Manning Johnson?  I saw a book on Ebay called Color,  Communism, and Common  Sense.   Looks like an interesting read.  

I'm not sure if you were asking me, or in general. If you were asking me, I'd never heard of him before just now.

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1 hour ago, Bunchy Carter said:

I'm not sure if you were asking me, or in general. If you were asking me, I'd never heard of him before just now.

I just threw it out there for anyone. Thanks for the response.  Sounds like Manning Johnson was a Communist for a while but eventually changed his way of thinking. Just wondering what changed his mind!      

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6 hours ago, Bunchy Carter said:

Garvey wrote/spoke about the dangers of communism and socialism for Black people in America. On the whole, he felt that vigorous capitalism was the best way for the global African to gain and keep self determination. 

I think his analysis (I'm paraphrasing) was: "You dance with the girl you came with." Capitalism is currently the Belle of the ball, so Black people had best start dancing.

His full throated rejections of communism/socialism was also about being betrayed by left wing whites. That's a common thread through the American black struggle. El Hajj Malik El Shabazz (AKA Malcolm X) constantly warned American blacks about "allying" with so called "liberal" white Americans.

Martin Luther King ALSO talked about the hypocrisy of the white American left. Lol, you won't see those quotes very often...but he talked about it more than once.

*Don't mean to derail the thread*

Didn't derail the thread at all. There was a lot of debate and division over civil rights organizations accepting money and support from white benefactors. Once they came to rely on the money, they found that the contributors held sway over the message that they were willing to support. Black nationalist groups called out other organizations for watering down their messages and goals in order to keep the machine fueled.

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This is the exact reason why the complaint is about the system. Judges, mayors and attorneys general absolutely empower the worst police to terrorize communities and break laws. They just don't care as long as the right people get hurt.

 

 

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3 hours ago, The Legendary SB said:

Kaepernick Reportedly Asked For $20 Million To Play In The AAF Despite Players Making Only $75k A Year
http://dailysnark.com/kaepernick-reportedly-asked-for-20-million-to-play-in-the-aaf-despite-players-making-only-75k-a-year/?fbclid=IwAR3mqtPxx2rhV8Q3fuqWpCH9BY9MCoaHq8YMsuKoAp_Cs-5fpy4R_L90YuE

 

OK this guy doesn't want to play football.  He wants to play victim.  

If it wasn't about the money and he truly wanted to play football he would be playing for an AAF team right now.  

Meanwhile:

https://apnews.com/7f81fc29e1084b33abc5fbd712c89235

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Oregon official: texts show police-extremist collusion

A member of Portland’s city council said Thursday a newspaper’s report that the commander for the police rapid response team exchanged friendly text messages with a leader of far-right protests that have rocked the city confirms collusion exists between some police and right-wing extremists.

“I am not shocked, and I am not surprised at today’s reporting of Lt. Jeff Niiya’s collaboration with Patriot Prayer leader Joey Gibson over text to provide aid and support for their hate marches,” Councilwoman Jo Ann Hardesty said in a statement.

*read the rest at the link* 

 

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3 hours ago, The Legendary SB said:

Kaepernick Reportedly Asked For $20 Million To Play In The AAF Despite Players Making Only $75k A Year
http://dailysnark.com/kaepernick-reportedly-asked-for-20-million-to-play-in-the-aaf-despite-players-making-only-75k-a-year/?fbclid=IwAR3mqtPxx2rhV8Q3fuqWpCH9BY9MCoaHq8YMsuKoAp_Cs-5fpy4R_L90YuE

 

OK this guy doesn't want to play football.  He wants to play victim.  

If it wasn't about the money and he truly wanted to play football he would be playing for an AAF team right now.  

It's a business decision.  What if he doesn't cut it in the AAF?  He is totally screwed out of his lawsuit with the NFL.   

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5 hours ago, The Legendary SB said:

Kaepernick Reportedly Asked For $20 Million To Play In The AAF Despite Players Making Only $75k A Year
http://dailysnark.com/kaepernick-reportedly-asked-for-20-million-to-play-in-the-aaf-despite-players-making-only-75k-a-year/?fbclid=IwAR3mqtPxx2rhV8Q3fuqWpCH9BY9MCoaHq8YMsuKoAp_Cs-5fpy4R_L90YuE

 

OK this guy doesn't want to play football.  He wants to play victim.  

If it wasn't about the money and he truly wanted to play football he would be playing for an AAF team right now.  

GTFOOH.

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2 hours ago, The Legendary SB said:

He sure did.  I guess my reason was flawed!!!   Maybe Kap will just fade into the sunset now and enjoy this payday.  

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Come on, kids! Let's sing the official song of the Houston PD FOP:

"Oink, oink oink, oink oink,

Oink, oink oink,

Oinkyoinkyoinky oink,

Do it because nobody gives a ****,

Oink oink oinky, oink oink."

excited shimmy GIF by Sing Movie

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5 hours ago, SpongeDad said:

:golfclap::golfclap::golfclap:

 

The guy who wants to be famous didn't comment on the superbowl halftime show, but should hold a press conference to offer his views about the superbowl halftime show because he is an attention whore?  Anyone watching this without racial animus towards Kap and his cause does not think he is the attention whore here.

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8 minutes ago, mfaulk57158 said:

The guy who wants to be famous didn't comment on the superbowl halftime show, but should hold a press conference to offer his views about the superbowl halftime show because he is an attention whore?  Anyone watching this without racial animus towards Kap and his cause does not think he is the attention whore here.

No one should have to check in with Kap for his approval like he's the Godfather. You don't mess with another man's money. There's nothing racist about that. I'm glad Big Boi ignored him.

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