Osiruz Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 2:04 PM, Macknsweetjones said: You're delusional to think him not playing isn't a big difference don't let your homerism blind you He's right, The drop off between cam and Derek Anderson is not that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, jdawg4876 said: this is from two different articles last yr hence my statement of he gets nicked up lol. Stanford star running back Christian McCaffrey has not played since he left his team's 42-16 loss to Washington State on Oct. 8 with an undisclosed injury. However, he's ready to make his return to the field. McCaffrey, who did not play in Stanford's 17-10 victory over Notre Dame last week while nursing an undisclosed injury, has been slowed over his last two active games, carrying the ball a combined 20 times for 84 yards with 35 receiving yards and no scores. anyway its pre season so him not be injured yet doesnt mean much to me. I do believe he will get banged up running between tackles if thats how they ft him a lot there. that should be stewarts job not his. Christian body type is reggie bush ish and reggie missed like 40 something games in his career This guy is trying to compare what a pac 12 rb did vs sec @ acc rbs Edited August 22, 2017 by abcranford2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 10:11 AM, Sidecar Falcon said: That's because they built the team around Vick. When you use a single player as a foundation for a franchise, and then that player is no longer there, of course you're going to struggle. That's the nature of the beast. That's why we went away from that system. Vick was a terrible QB, with terrible work ethic, and gifted athletic ability. Notice how Roddy flourished under a QB that could actually make reads, and that was Chris Redman. And for all his "winning", Vick still wasn't able to lead his team to any sort of reputable winning percentage Well I've seen every Falcon QB. From Hecker to Ryan. Give me Vick right after Ryan with Bart a notch below. Liked Miller too. Buddy was a game changer. Trust me. I think yall boys have already forgotten what he did. Or quite possibly paralyzed with Vick hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Well I've seen every Falcon QB. From Hecker to Ryan. Give me Vick right after Ryan with Bart a notch below. Liked Miller too. Buddy was a game changer. Trust me. I think yall boys have already forgotten what he did. Or quite possibly paralyzed with Vick hate. Never saw Bartkowski play but from what I hear from numerous Falcons fans, he is the second best QB this franchise has ever had. Oh I'm well aware of Vick's playmaking ability. You must have forgot that he also had an absolutely horrible worst work ethic. I'm sure if you owned a franchise you would be fine with a player not giving it their all. However for the majority of the people on these boards, and real life, would much rather have a player that put their nose to the grindstone day in and day out. Edited August 23, 2017 by Sidecar Falcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, Sidecar Falcon said: Never saw Bartkowski play but from what I hear from numerous Falcons fans, he is the second best QB this franchise has ever had. Oh I'm well aware of Vick's playmaking ability. You must have forgot that he also had an absolutely horrible worst work ethic. I'm sure if you owned a franchise you would be fine with a player not giving it their all. However for the majority of the people on these boards, and real life, would much rather have a player that put their nose to the grindstone day in and day out. Nothing worse than giving it your absolute all and you see the guy next to you half assing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, Yo_Lover said: Nothing worse than giving it your absolute all and you see the guy next to you half assing it. Exactly! Especially if it's supposed to be the leader of the team. This is only further exacerbated by Mora advocating this behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, Yo_Lover said: Nothing worse than giving it your absolute all and you see the guy next to you half assing it. Buddy half assed his way to the second best Falcon QB of all time in my book. After 51 years of watching I appreciate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1970 said: Buddy half assed his way to the second best Falcon QB of all time in my book. After 51 years of watching I appreciate him. Buddy half assed his way into being a cautionary tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chifalc Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'm not addicted to these 'running quarterbacks' like many seems to be. Give me a good pocket passer over _any_run first quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvin31063 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Personally from what I see... McCaffrey may have durability problems as he doesn't seem as though he'll hold up against continuous NFL hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCFalc Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, chifalc said: I'm not addicted to these 'running quarterbacks' like many seems to be. Give me a good pocket passer over _any_run first quarterback. I agree, Vick was never going to take a team to a Super Bowl although Kaepernick did with an elite defense. I cant think of any other run first QBs now though, Tyrod Taylor maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 49 minutes ago, NYCFalc said: I agree, Vick was never going to take a team to a Super Bowl although Kaepernick did with an elite defense. I cant think of any other run first QBs now though, Tyrod Taylor maybe? Sad thing is that if Vick did apply himself he could have been great. However he decided to take the easy way out and do the bare minimum. He may very well be the 3rd best QB this franchise ever had, but that's not saying much when you've seen the amount of terrible QBs we have had. Vick will never be in the HoF and will be a forgotten. His only legacy will be that of a cautionary tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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