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Talks of massive downtown Atlanta passenger terminal spring back to life (Curbed Atlanta)

A plan from a few years ago for a huge $1.5 billion public/private-funded transit and retail center in the Gulch is gaining some support in the Georgia Legislature again.  If built, it would bring MARTA, AMTRAK, Lyft/Uber, taxis, Atlanta Streetcar, MegaBus, Greyhound, etc., and a ton of retail right across the street from MB Stadium and Philips Arena.  This would be the biggest development in South Downtown since the new stadium itself.

This is super exciting, because one day we could take the AMTRAK Crescent Line to games vs New Orleans and Carolina, with Falcons fans hoping on the train in Downtown Atlanta abd other smaller stations along the way, and there would be a ton of retail, restaurants, and parks right across Centennial Olympic Park Drive.  I wrote about it here:

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/6/20/15837408/are-the-hawks-setting-a-new-record-for-steals-atlanta-is-giving-them

And now, some development porn:

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22 minutes ago, BoomGoesTheDynamite said:

Falcons win a SB and this gets the green light I bet.

True, and with all the events coming, and budding on future Superbowls, Final Fours, and other events after the ones we're already scheduled to host, we'll need to keep raising the bar.  As the Georgia Congressman said in the article: Go Big or Go Home!

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Wouldn't be surprised if it gets the green light regardless. Big time residential urban construction going on in Atlanta, so many people looking to live and work close together, and the American dream is no longer just a house in the burbs and a 2 car garage. **** if i were 10-15 years younger I'd have me condo, 10 minute walk from work and be just fine. LOL they keep on building and prices go down  might do it anyway.  Everyone knows that the traffic is brutal, and they have no real answer for it now or the future.Something **** appealing to being able to be home in 10 minutes. It's not like suburbia isn't crowded as **** now anyway. Honestly its either move closer or do the exact opposite and head to North Georgia and tele commute

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7 hours ago, putnam6 said:

Wouldn't be surprised if it gets the green light regardless. Big time residential urban construction going on in Atlanta, so many people looking to live and work close together, and the American dream is no longer just a house in the burbs and a 2 car garage. **** if i were 10-15 years younger I'd have me condo, 10 minute walk from work and be just fine. LOL they keep on building and prices go down  might do it anyway.  Everyone knows that the traffic is brutal, and they have no real answer for it now or the future.Something **** appealing to being able to be home in 10 minutes. It's not like suburbia isn't crowded as **** now anyway. Honestly its either move closer or do the exact opposite and head to North Georgia and tele commute

100% agree.  I know people moving to Fairlie-Poplar and Castleberry Hill, while ither are moving out to Cherokee County.  As this and everything else already breaking ground in South Downtown at Underground Atlanta and Summerhill takes off, there's going to be one heck of a party scene after Falcons games in a few years.

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30 minutes ago, Capitalist said:

#GulchTailgateKiller

FYI

Norfolk Southern owns that land...

Not the only tailgate spot in town, including the current Dome site.  Plus, they're adding parkland with a much better view.  Imagine tailgating here:

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Also, CSX owns this land.  NS owns much of the land west of Spring/Windsor, and they'll both sell for the right price, as long as their current trains can still operate smoothly there.

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15 hours ago, Brewcrew said:

The plans were done in 2011...  When construction and financing were in the gutter.  There just reviving "talks", so could still be a ways off.

Looks like they're trying to fast-track this: the legislator pushing this is pushing back against CSX's request for an updated environmental study.  I doubt he would do so without enough support in the Legislature.  Someone is seeing the dollar signs associated with all this construction, and they're not about to miss this window again.

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8 minutes ago, Stray Dog THA GAWD said:

You think people being able to take commuter trains from the burbs and other nearby cities into Downtown Atlanta, on existing train tracks, will make traffic worse:rolleyes:

It's apparent they've never taken the Marta trains.  Funny how when I used to live in NE Atlanta and took the Doraville train to the Omni for concerts and Hawks games in the mid-late 80's it was so much more efficient then driving.  Park at the station for free, get on the train for like a couple of bucks and then maybe have 7-8 terminal stops along the way (each one taking less time than an average stoplight), and making it to the Omni in like twenty minutes, not have to pay $10-$15 to park your car and deal with that in-town traffic. Oh yeah, the tracks for those trains either went above or below all roads crossing so no 'traffic impact'.  Yeah, the trains got crowded after the event with everyone letting out at once but nothing beats getting on a train after a great Hawks win or even better, an amazing concert where almost everyone is singing and happy on the train!  Great times! 

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3 minutes ago, falconfansince66 said:

It's apparent they've never taken the Marta trains.  Funny how when I used to live in NE Atlanta and took the Doraville train to the Omni for concerts and Hawks games in the mid-late 80's it was so much more efficient then driving.  Park at the station for free, get on the train for like a couple of bucks and then maybe have 7-8 terminal stops along the way (each one taking less time than an average stoplight), and making it to the Omni in like twenty minutes, not have to pay $10-$15 to park your car and deal with that in-town traffic. Oh yeah, the tracks for those trains either went above or below all roads crossing so no 'traffic impact'.  Yeah, the trains got crowded after the event with everyone letting out at once but nothing beats getting on a train after a great Hawks win or even better, an amazing concert where almost everyone is singing and happy on the train!  Great times! 

Exactly!  Getting on a packed train after a playoff win was even more hype than the crowds inside, plus you could enjoy your drinks knowing you were taking the train and avoiding the 1,000+ cars backed up in the parking deck!  I wish people would THINK before saying something STUPID! :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Capitalist said:

We...  The Tailgaters of Lot A...  Actually do prefer that...   10-11- hopefully 12 times a year...

I used to feel that way too, until I weighed those 12 days max versus a whole year of something amazing.  To each his own, but there are other places to tailgate downtown, while there's nowhere else for this scale of development in the area.

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Sort of our own Grand Central Station. I like the idea. The original pre Civil War railroad roundhouse was located in the Gulch between lot A and B. 

I also have an idea about an Amtrak "tailgate train" that I've been formulating for awhile. I'm trying to get it to the Falcons marketing group. This falls right in line with that.

But, if they do this project and ALSO put a hotel where the old Dome is (which was supposed to be parking), they're gonna have a major game day parking issue. I don't think both are feasible. Unless they just decide they no longer want tailgating, which was one of the first things Blank instituted when he bought the team.

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1 hour ago, since68andcounting said:

Sort of our own Grand Central Station. I like the idea. The original pre Civil War railroad roundhouse was located in the Gulch between lot A and B. 

I also have an idea about an Amtrak "tailgate train" that I've been formulating for awhile. I'm trying to get it to the Falcons marketing group. This falls right in line with that.

But, if they do this project and ALSO put a hotel where the old Dome is (which was supposed to be parking), they're gonna have a major game day parking issue. I don't think both are feasible. Unless they just decide they no longer want tailgating, which was one of the first things Blank instituted when he bought the team.

The tailgate train is a good idea, just like the old dinner train years ago.

The hotel was never going to replace the tailgate park, and the hotel was announced before the tailgate area anyway.  The hotel has its own parking deck underneath, and the tailgate park is shown right beside it:

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39 minutes ago, JerseyNo12 said:

Southern metropolis eh? Atlanta trying to play host to every major event, sporting and otherwise. Wish they would make the metro and commuter rail system more robust, but it's a good start. I like the design.

You can thank the state legislature for that: MARTA is the largest U.S. transit system with zero state funding, and that's why it's not more robust.  Atlanta, DeKalb, and Fulton are the only ones funding MARTA, besides people that pay to ride it, so ironically you should be thanking Atlanta for what little metro rail we do have.

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