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Granted injuries are luck of the draw, but the Falcons have only lost Fuller, Raven have lost several players for the season already and Flacco may not play for a while, Chargers had lost their first two picks to injury. Several teams have lost pieces already. Luck and Bridgewater may both start the season on the PUP list. Tanneyhill went down to day.

Not bragging that the falcons are injury free, just grateful they are.

Meanwhile. in the Seattle camp,Clark punched Ifedi and drew blood, which seems more than your typical camp fight.

Panthers got to worry about Cam's shoulder, Benjamin was way over weight early in the offseason, their 55 mil LT coming of hip surgery hasn't practiced for a couple of days because of a groin pull.

Saints have lost key pieces already this year.And due to cap trickery, Brees has an 18 mil cap hit next year no matter if he's on the roster or not.

Several teams are just hoping they have a competent QB this year, Falcons have the reigning MVP. Here's some headlines:

Wentz and offense go 0-12 inside 10 yard line.

Bortles 5 INT in practice.

Overheard: "We look like the Bad News Bears out there offense" -- safety Eric Weddle after an errant snap by Nico Siracusa [Bears].

 

Seems like this team is focused on one goal-getting back to the super bowl and winning it. Haven't heard of a single player out of shape coming into camp. Everybody is working hard, for a team that blew the super bowl, this is an incredibly optimistic bunch. Think the leadership of Ryan and Quinn mean you won't see a pantherlike collapse this year.

 

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That's DQ.   Discipline, clarity of vision and purpose, heavy on conditioning and authoritative without being nasty.  The rookies all say the same...the other players get on them before the coach does.  That my friends is what great leaders can do...push culture throughout the organization.

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You're grasping hard on a bunch of straws. I know you're a Falcon fan and like to think your team is impeccable while everyone else is a dumpster fire, but you seriously act like the Panthers and a host of others are going to be absolute trash while holding on to a bunch of debunked talking points.

First off, Training Camp fights happen all the time. Cam Newton and Josh Norman went at it in 2015, and both had their best statistical season of their careers. Just shows the spirit and fire that's on the field, and invigorates everyone for the future.

Now, to go ahead and disprove some of your statements:

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Panthers got to worry about Cam's shoulder.

It'll be fine. From a professional doctor specializing in football-related injuries:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/columnists/kevin-acee/sd-sp-pfd-cam-newton-throwing-ready-season-0613-story.html

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Will Newton be ready for the season? Did the Panthers mismanage the injury? Why did the team allow him to continue to play after injured when their playoff chances were done? Any news about the star QB is always dissected.

Certainly, there is worry anytime a quarterback’s throwing shoulder undergoes surgery, but not all procedures lead to the same recovery. Rotator cuff repair sounds – and is – potentially ominous for a quarterback. However, the specific nature of the tear is the key.

It was reported that Newton was to have a partial rotator cuff tear repair.

In this case, it is highly likely the word “repair” was used to mean “fixed,” not “sutured.”

That is an enormously important distinction.

Medically, the difference between a rotator cuff debridement (trimming) versus true repair is the difference between mowing the lawn and laying down new sod. The former does not require waiting for roots to grow (cuff tissue to grow into bone) and thus leads to a much quicker recovery. In general, the rotator cuff is not sutured when the tear is less than 50 percent of the thickness of the tendon.

Based on the video of Newton’s Week 14 fall, the way the Panthers handled the injury, the timing of the surgery, the timeline of rehab and the lack of post-op sling, signs have always pointed to a debridement procedure and thus a return by the start of the regular season.

Team medical staffs try to allow time for an injury to heal but set a drop dead date during the offseason. If not improved, that is the time that surgery would be performed. The date is typically calculated based on the recovery timeline. A rotator cuff debridement surgery requires 3-4 months recovery. A repair would have meant at least six months. It makes sense Newton’s surgery was announced the end of March with training camp four months away.

At the time, the team estimated 12 weeks to throw and 16 weeks to return with team, and Newton is still on the original path with it being only about 10 weeks post surgery.

This all fits the debridement timeline.

The Panthers knew about the injury suffered against the Chargers, allowed Newton to finish the season and hoped his shoulder would get better with rest. Team doctors would not have waited if repair with suture was needed, given the minimum of six months recovery. The team athletic trainers would not have let him continue to play as they wouldn’t jeopardize his future by making a full tear worse.

The Panthers did the same thing in 2014 with Newton’s ankle ligament tightening procedure. They waited for healing but then pulled the trigger on surgery in March to be ready for training camp. The ankle was ready, but Newton missed the season opener due to a rib injury.

Cam's going to be fine. He's still throwing beauties on the field.

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Now, for your next claim:

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Benjamin was way over weight early in the offseason

Yes he was. In fact, he was reported to be at 270 total pounds, which makes any comparison to an offensive lineman warranted.

However, here's his current weight:

 

So anything about his weight is effectively a nothing-burger. 

And as far as his performance, he's having himself a decent camp, especially considering he just buried his mom a few days before. 

Also to note: Kelvin Benjamin no longer is getting that "WR1 treatment" he's been getting the past couple of camps where Cam Newton and KB would focus on each other on private drills of their own. In actuality, that's the best thing that could happen.

Panthers plan to get every wide receiver involved much like in 2015 rather than focus in on one receiver. Designed rollouts, more checkdowns, and spreading the ball around have all been reported. 

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55 mil LT coming of hip surgery hasn't practiced for a couple of days because of a groin pull.

From all reports and clips, Matt Kalil has been far more explosive than he's ever been. The hip injury was something he sustained since college. Neglecting it led to his lack of explosiveness and ultimately the end of plenty of jokes in Philly.

Now that he had surgery, he's showing a lot of that athleticism he sorely missed since his rookie season.

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He'll be fine and ready.

As far as the Panthers mentality as a whole, there's a lot more excitement and electricity on the offense than there's ever been before. Defense is more aggressive and hungry than last year, and Worley and Bradberry are both making big plays and strides in comparison to their rookie camp.

The Panthers are by no means in any bad situation. Quite the opposite. This is a hungry team that's just as hungry and ready to pound the league as you guys are.

Can't wait to see what other "straws" you try and pull.

 

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12 minutes ago, SamMills51 said:

You're grasping hard on a bunch of straws. I know you're a Falcon fan and like to think your team is impeccable while everyone else is a dumpster fire, but you seriously act like the Panthers and a host of others are going to be absolute trash while holding on to a bunch of debunked talking points.

First off, Training Camp fights happen all the time. Cam Newton and Josh Norman went at it in 2015, and both had their best statistical season of their careers. Just shows the spirit and fire that's on the field, and invigorates everyone for the future.

Now, to go ahead and disprove some of your statements:

It'll be fine. From a professional doctor specializing in football-related injuries:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/columnists/kevin-acee/sd-sp-pfd-cam-newton-throwing-ready-season-0613-story.html

Cam's going to be fine. He's still throwing beauties on the field.

Shepard2.gif.bce4f360733ce8bebe3034f9744c998f.gif

597d423082ec0_CamNewtonTouch.gif.d37f001861ac92880b8446bb3c7890e1.gif

Now, for your next claim:

Yes he was. In fact, he was reported to be at 270 total pounds, which makes any comparison to an offensive lineman warranted.

However, here's his current weight:

 

So anything about his weight is effectively a nothing-burger. 

And as far as his performance, he's having himself a decent camp, especially considering he just buried his mom a few days before. 

Also to note: Kelvin Benjamin no longer is getting that "WR1 treatment" he's been getting the past couple of camps where Cam Newton and KB would focus on each other on private drills of their own. In actuality, that's the best thing that could happen.

Panthers plan to get every wide receiver involved much like in 2015 rather than focus in on one receiver. Designed rollouts, more checkdowns, and spreading the ball around have all been reported. 

From all reports and clips, Matt Kalil has been far more explosive than he's ever been. The hip injury was something he sustained since college. Neglecting it led to his lack of explosiveness and ultimately the end of plenty of jokes in Philly.

Now that he had surgery, he's showing a lot of that athleticism he sorely missed since his rookie season.

Matt_Kalil_TC.gif.1c962a907d92bcd22880b468e64a19b1.gif

He'll be fine and ready.

As far as the Panthers mentality as a whole, there's a lot more excitement and electricity on the offense than there's ever been before. Defense is more aggressive and hungry than last year, and Worley and Bradberry are both making big plays and strides in comparison to their rookie camp.

The Panthers are by no means in any bad situation. Quite the opposite. This is a hungry team that's just as hungry and ready to pound the league as you guys are.

Can't wait to see what other "straws" you try and pull.

 

Speaking of grasping hard on someone's straw... check out who showed up cams personal defense lawyer 

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7 hours ago, SamMills51 said:

You're grasping hard on a bunch of straws. I know you're a Falcon fan and like to think your team is impeccable while everyone else is a dumpster fire, but you seriously act like the Panthers and a host of others are going to be absolute trash while holding on to a bunch of debunked talking points.

First off, Training Camp fights happen all the time. Cam Newton and Josh Norman went at it in 2015, and both had their best statistical season of their careers. Just shows the spirit and fire that's on the field, and invigorates everyone for the future.

Now, to go ahead and disprove some of your statements:

It'll be fine. From a professional doctor specializing in football-related injuries:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/columnists/kevin-acee/sd-sp-pfd-cam-newton-throwing-ready-season-0613-story.html

Cam's going to be fine. He's still throwing beauties on the field.

Shepard2.gif.bce4f360733ce8bebe3034f9744c998f.gif

597d423082ec0_CamNewtonTouch.gif.d37f001861ac92880b8446bb3c7890e1.gif

Now, for your next claim:

Yes he was. In fact, he was reported to be at 270 total pounds, which makes any comparison to an offensive lineman warranted.

However, here's his current weight:

 

So anything about his weight is effectively a nothing-burger. 

And as far as his performance, he's having himself a decent camp, especially considering he just buried his mom a few days before. 

Also to note: Kelvin Benjamin no longer is getting that "WR1 treatment" he's been getting the past couple of camps where Cam Newton and KB would focus on each other on private drills of their own. In actuality, that's the best thing that could happen.

Panthers plan to get every wide receiver involved much like in 2015 rather than focus in on one receiver. Designed rollouts, more checkdowns, and spreading the ball around have all been reported. 

From all reports and clips, Matt Kalil has been far more explosive than he's ever been. The hip injury was something he sustained since college. Neglecting it led to his lack of explosiveness and ultimately the end of plenty of jokes in Philly.

Now that he had surgery, he's showing a lot of that athleticism he sorely missed since his rookie season.

Matt_Kalil_TC.gif.1c962a907d92bcd22880b468e64a19b1.gif

He'll be fine and ready.

As far as the Panthers mentality as a whole, there's a lot more excitement and electricity on the offense than there's ever been before. Defense is more aggressive and hungry than last year, and Worley and Bradberry are both making big plays and strides in comparison to their rookie camp.

The Panthers are by no means in any bad situation. Quite the opposite. This is a hungry team that's just as hungry and ready to pound the league as you guys are.

Can't wait to see what other "straws" you try and pull.

 

lol @ that Matt Kalil gif. He's holding pretty ferociously. Can't wait to see Beas, Takk, and Campbell blitzing on him trying that ****. 

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