Monolith2001 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 5/50/12 would be a very odd contract. Schizophrenic even...reads like, "we want you around for a while but reserve the right to cut you next year." If I was TD, I'd do 5/32.5/20 with a combo of LTBE and NLTBE accelerators and incentives worth up to 1M more. The cap space is the most important so we give him less but essentially make a full 3-year commitment (highest guaranteed money for a RB). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 The only reason I know what the thread title says is because I've watched enough South Park to understand Chef's language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: The only reason I know what the thread title says is because I've watched enough South Park to understand Chef's language. Tree Fiddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3TD Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, BoomGoesTheDynamite said: If that's true, I really don't see that happening with TD. At least not the 5 yr 50mil AND the 12 guaranteed. Could be wrong though, so we'll see. 12 million guaranteed is actually really low (around 20% of offer that's non-guaranteed). Even a potential $50 million probably wouldn't get him to take that little, because that means they're only on the hook for 2.4 million a year, just a little more than he's making now. If he gets hurt or they decide to dump him, that $50 million potential means nothing. I'd love and see it in the $20 million guaranteed on $40-45 for 5 years, think that's fair for both sides. Structured in a way that helps the team, and Free gets $4-5 a year no matter what happens. TD usually sees it that way too. Give them their money when they earn it, but figure out the smart way to do it. It may have saved his job during the Smitty years... Edited August 2, 2017 by B3TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hive Sop Dap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: The only reason I know what the thread title says is because I've watched enough South Park to understand Chef's language. Hey!!! This is my native language now. I understood exactly what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 If 5 years, 50 mil is on the table and he isn't signing...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper72 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I barely understand WTF the OP is trying to convey. If you are unable to type proper English, or even worse you refuse to do so, then go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird2k5 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGrip Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 The players/agents know that it's the guaranteed money that count. He won't sign for less than twenty. And if he somehow become a free agent he will get more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 17 hours ago, BoomGoesTheDynamite said: If that's true, I really don't see that happening with TD. At least not the 5 yr 50mil AND the 12 guaranteed. Could be wrong though, so we'll see. I'd give him more guaranteed as "payback" for the last two years when he was underpaid. But we can't do 5 for 50 and maintain our cap integrity. 5 for 40 and 18-20 might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomGoesTheDynamite Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, since68andcounting said: I'd give him more guaranteed as "payback" for the last two years when he was underpaid. But we can't do 5 for 50 and maintain our cap integrity. 5 for 40 and 18-20 might work. Want Free to be paid. Understand he's worth big bucks. I think TD is looking at it like, I can give you a pile of cash in your face right now, and give you a little less yearly, or I can give you a ton of cash yearly and not so much upfront. Don't think TD will sign off on both upfront and yearly big money, unless the go ahead comes directly from Blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'm thinking Freeman is going to get a 5-year 46mil deal with about half of it guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 All but the double digit yearly salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 15 hours ago, hjerry said: Tree Fiddy? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 3 hours ago, since68andcounting said: I'd give him more guaranteed as "payback" for the last two years when he was underpaid. But we can't do 5 for 50 and maintain our cap integrity. 5 for 40 and 18-20 might work. But he wouldn't see all that $50M. That's the point that everyone seems to be missing. It's all about the guaranteed money. The rest doesn't matter. It could be $75M for all I care because I understand that it's a completely meaningless number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 17 hours ago, D.B.N. said: No reason to bring Saints fans into this. ijs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 7 hours ago, dirtybird2k5 said: Exactly what I was saying to myself when I saw the title - **** Loch Ness Monster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 4 hours ago, since68andcounting said: I'd give him more guaranteed as "payback" for the last two years when he was underpaid. But we can't do 5 for 50 and maintain our cap integrity. 5 for 40 and 18-20 might work. 5 for 50 won't work, but 5 for 40 will? Uh......ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 56 minutes ago, Tandy said: Exactly what I was saying to myself when I saw the title - **** Loch Ness Monster! Exactly!! "How about two fiddy?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 9 hours ago, kschreck said: If 5 years, 50 mil is on the table and he isn't signing...... With only $12 mil guaranteed **** I wouldn't sign either. Nope. He can make all of that next year with the franchise tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Falconsfan567 said: But he wouldn't see all that $50M. That's the point that everyone seems to be missing. It's all about the guaranteed money. The rest doesn't matter. It could be $75M for all I care because I understand that it's a completely meaningless number. They don't understand NFL contracts. Like you said guaranteed money is all that matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguebeaver Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hooper72 said: I barely understand WTF the OP is trying to convey. If you are unable to type proper English, or even worse you refuse to do so, then go away. Hey Trump, is that you?! Is there a difference between type proper English and speak proper English? And, can you qualify proper? Just asking Amigo... Edited August 2, 2017 by roguebeaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knomercy Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 He's worth it if for no other reason than half of his value is leadership & work ethic -- both of which are being hamstrung every day he goes without a contract. He runs like an elite back but once this contract situation is off his mind he can concentrate on being the elite leader he is, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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