capologist 13,660 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, WhenFalconsWin said: It's depends on who you talk too and where they go. Private is very expensive over state schools. But your means (including grants/scholarships) are your means. You should end up going where you can afford unless you get that full ride to wherever it is you want to go. Exactly. I wanted to go to University of Florida. However, instead of plunking down $100k in debt to do it, I thought better of it and did 2 years at Macon College and then my last two at Mercer University. Worked 2 jobs (1 during the week, 1 on the weekends) to make it happen... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 27,931 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, capologist said: Exactly. I wanted to go to University of Florida. However, instead of plunking down $100k in debt to do it, I thought better of it and did 2 years at Macon College and then my last two at Mercer University. Worked 2 jobs (1 during the week, 1 on the weekends) to make it happen... I hear you. I basically did the same thing. Mixing work and school (for a while I did it while I was full time and with two small kids) takes an incredible amount of dedication and concentration...oh, and lack of sleep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostone 18,059 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 meh I laugh at you all 7k in student loan debt and dropped out once ... nm that I had help from my mom or anything.... All that debt actually came from 2.5 years of school. I lived at home while this happened. Kids do have to make choices and I encourage them not to spend 10s of thousands of dollars when they dont even know what they want to do yet. So proud of my niece. She is going to community college for two years then the regular college.. now time to encourage her not to go to that liberal arts school that is in 40k tuition without room and board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 250 a month rent for 4 people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Why do people talk about how they paid for college in the 50s as if thats relevant today... "I picked apples 3 days a week for a couple hours and paid all my tuition... lazy millenials" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostone 18,059 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Dang... I graduated in 2008... this makes me sad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 27,931 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 On 5/23/2017 at 11:19 PM, lostone said: meh I laugh at you all 7k in student loan debt and dropped out once ... nm that I had help from my mom or anything.... All that debt actually came from 2.5 years of school. I lived at home while this happened. Kids do have to make choices and I encourage them not to spend 10s of thousands of dollars when they dont even know what they want to do yet. So proud of my niece. She is going to community college for two years then the regular college.. now time to encourage her not to go to that liberal arts school that is in 40k tuition without room and board. ^Nothing wrong with this path. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,547 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 21 hours ago, Joremarid said: Why do people talk about how they paid for college in the 50s as if thats relevant today... "I picked apples 3 days a week for a couple hours and paid all my tuition... lazy millenials" You realize Cappy didn't go to college in the 50s I assume..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 52 minutes ago, JDaveG said: You realize Cappy didn't go to college in the 50s I assume..... I went to college during dubyas admin and it's not applicable to today Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sturgil Simpson 428 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 One semester at Ga Southern is now 5 grand and that doesn't include books, a place to live, or food. I had a part time job making $17 an hour and it was difficult to make ends meet. Maybe 20 years ago it was possible to work your way through school, but now you have to rack up huge amounts of student debt to make it work. I'll go ahead and say I'm a STEM major before i get all the liberal arts degree bs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 But if you want to see how cappys experience translates to today, according to mercer university's website the yearly cost of attendance is $50,282... but if you stay with your parents its $41,696. Macon state, now middle georgia state university, lists cost of attendance as $20,175 Some simple math puts the total cost between 120k-140k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sturgil Simpson 428 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Joremarid said: But if you want to see how cappys experience translates to today, according to mercer university's website the yearly cost of attendance is $50,282... but if you stay with your parents its $41,696. Macon state, now middle georgia state university, lists cost of attendance as $20,175 Some simple math puts the total cost between 120k-140k. Simple math is hard for some of these far right "fiscal" conservatives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,547 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, Joremarid said: I went to college during dubyas admin and it's not applicable to today That's fair, and your point is reasonable. I was just being sure you understood he wasn't talking about picking apples for Ma and Pa Ingles either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, JDaveG said: That's fair, and your point is reasonable. I was just being sure you understood he wasn't talking about picking apples for Ma and Pa Ingles either. I should clarify, it was hyperbolic. Was referring to wfw saying he paid for college setting pins at a local bowling alley in a previous thread from before my break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sturgil Simpson said: Simple math is hard for some of these far right "fiscal" conservatives. I dont pretend to know why exactly the cost of attendance has grown exponentially over the last decade or so but its creating a large barrier to one of the only ways a lot of people can move up in class. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,547 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Joremarid said: I dont pretend to know why exactly the cost of attendance has grown exponentially over the last decade or so but its creating a large barrier to one of the only ways a lot of people can move up in class. That answer is simple -- supply and demand, and it is ironically caused by easy access to student loans. When everybody can go to college, and everybody does, that means the demand for college is much, much higher than when only certain people can go to college. Now, it is rudimentary -- what happens to price when demand rises? That's simplifying it, but it's the basic math. It's the same reason we had a housing bubble, a dot-com bubble, etc. Easy access increases demand, increased demand increases price. This shouldn't surprise anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I get that aspect of it but i wonder as to why cost controls were not set in place when the government basically guaranteed anyone who got accepted could "afford" to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoeBiden 629 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 43 minutes ago, Sturgil Simpson said: One semester at Ga Southern is now 5 grand and that doesn't include books, a place to live, or food. I had a part time job making $17 an hour and it was difficult to make ends meet. Maybe 20 years ago it was possible to work your way through school, but now you have to rack up huge amounts of student debt to make it work. I'll go ahead and say I'm a STEM major before i get all the liberal arts degree bs. 17/hr is pretty dam good, in Valdosta 8/hr was what most people hoped for. I don't think anyone knows what the solution is, but the people saying just get a job in the day and work at night to pay for school, housing, utilities, and transportation are certainly liars or delusional. Kids are better off buying fking lotto tickets with the chips, at least you got a chance..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dago 3.0 8,688 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, Joremarid said: I get that aspect of it but i wonder as to why cost controls were not set in place when the government basically guaranteed anyone who got accepted could "afford" to go. the same reason they didn't put in cost controls with Obamacare Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MACK4ttACK 1,877 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, JDaveG said: That answer is simple -- supply and demand, and it is ironically caused by easy access to student loans. When everybody can go to college, and everybody does, that means the demand for college is much, much higher than when only certain people can go to college. Now, it is rudimentary -- what happens to price when demand rises? That's simplifying it, but it's the basic math. It's the same reason we had a housing bubble, a dot-com bubble, etc. Easy access increases demand, increased demand increases price. This shouldn't surprise anyone. Some of us look at a good Education as a right. Just like Healthcare. Others of us want to consider Education as a luxury good, much like Trump. So that way we can all get a Trump University degree and a good education. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,547 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, MACK2THEFUTURE said: Some of us look at a good Education as a right. Just like Healthcare. Others of us want to consider Education as a luxury good, much like Trump. So that way we can all get a Trump University degree and a good education. Some of you don't understand the difference between government doling out "rights" and negative liberties then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
capologist 13,660 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 16 hours ago, Joremarid said: But if you want to see how cappys experience translates to today, according to mercer university's website the yearly cost of attendance is $50,282... but if you stay with your parents its $41,696. Macon state, now middle georgia state university, lists cost of attendance as $20,175 Some simple math puts the total cost between 120k-140k. Your post here is being very intellectually dishonest. If you truly want to view my experience today then I'm an in-state resident who lived with my mother while I went to school. As you can see by the attachment provided from MGSU's website, that annual cost is actually $4,542. After Hope grant is applied for 2 semesters of $2,970, total out of pocket cost is $1,572 which basically is 1 weekend a month of delivering pizzas. What you did was go to the out of state with room and board, etc. to get the highest possible number. Simply not applicable to my experience nor anything I've ever advocated about attending a LOCAL community college. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
capologist 13,660 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 16 hours ago, JDaveG said: That answer is simple -- supply and demand, and it is ironically caused by easy access to student loans. When everybody can go to college, and everybody does, that means the demand for college is much, much higher than when only certain people can go to college. Now, it is rudimentary -- what happens to price when demand rises? That's simplifying it, but it's the basic math. It's the same reason we had a housing bubble, a dot-com bubble, etc. Easy access increases demand, increased demand increases price. This shouldn't surprise anyone. It's also why college grads have such a hard time getting a job... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, capologist said: Your post here is being very intellectually dishonest. If you truly want to view my experience today then I'm an in-state resident who lived with my mother while I went to school. As you can see by the attachment provided from MGSU's website, that annual cost is actually $4,542. After Hope grant is applied for 2 semesters of $2,970, total out of pocket cost is $1,572 which basically is 1 weekend a month of delivering pizzas. What you did was go to the out of state with room and board, etc. to get the highest possible number. Simply not applicable to my experience nor anything I've ever advocated about attending a LOCAL community college. I dont know what that pictute is of or the source but here is mine that shows the 20k coa. http://college-tuition.startclass.com/l/17814/Middle-Georgia-State-University Also what about mercer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joremarid 3,603 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 In addition thats awesome you got to live with your mom. Thats a great advantage many others didnt have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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