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52 minutes ago, big_dog said:

Questions for you then that you probably won't answer.

1 Why is he so protective of Putin while Russia is hacking us to death?

2 Why has he taken so much Russian money that is being looked at as money laundering? (one prime example the    mansion he sold to a Russian money launderer for millions more than the mansion was worth?)

I'll stop there. I have enough sense about me to see something isn't right about these two simplistic examples.

@marla_mulder      Marla, Comrad @WhenFalconsWin has failed on a request to answer 2 simple logical questions. Can you come to his aid?  He felt uncomfortable in trying to defend Trump with my fallcious (think he meant fallacious) questions. Give it your best shot.

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35 minutes ago, big_dog said:

@marla_mulder      Marla, Comrad @WhenFalconsWin has failed on a request to answer 2 simple logical questions. Can you come to his aid?  He felt uncomfortable in trying to defend Trump with my fallcious (think he meant fallacious) questions. Give it your best shot.

I did dayum phones...

Comrad, that's rich.  Who knew Governor Romney had so much foresight in 12' ?

Who knew our previous POTUS would have so much flexibility after the election? :rolleyes:

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Former top FBI official Andrew McCabe, who was fired late Friday night by Attorney General Jeff Sessions two days before becoming eligible for full pension benefits, said in an extraordinary statement that he was targeted because President Donald Trump wants to destroy him as part of his "war" against special counsel Robert Mueller. "This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement and intelligence professionals more generally," McCabe said in a statement released shortly after Sessions announced his decision. "It is part of this administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the special counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the special counsel's work."

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Fug Russia

Russia will expel 23 British diplomats amid rising tensions over attack on ex-spy

Russia will expel 23 British diplomats, its Foreign Ministry said Saturday, as part of a series of retaliatory measures after the U.K. accused the Kremlin of responsibility for the use of a nerve weapon in the attempted assassination of a former double agent on U.K. soil.

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13 hours ago, big_dog said:

Former top FBI official Andrew McCabe, who was fired late Friday night by Attorney General Jeff Sessions two days before becoming eligible for full pension benefits, said in an extraordinary statement that he was targeted because President Donald Trump wants to destroy him as part of his "war" against special counsel Robert Mueller. "This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement and intelligence professionals more generally," McCabe said in a statement released shortly after Sessions announced his decision. "It is part of this administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the special counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the special counsel's work."

McCabe also said in his statement. That he did that with the knowledge of the director at that time. Comey testified under oath he neither leaked or authorized a leak. McCabe just provided a road that leads straight to Comey. Still not tired of winning or being right.

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So i've been ignoring all things Russia.

Anyone care to summarize if anything relevant has been uncovered?

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On ‎3‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 5:39 PM, Doozer said:

So i've been ignoring all things Russia.

Anyone care to summarize if anything relevant has been uncovered?

Mueller has a lot of things he's looking into. It takes time because there is so much to look at.

But if Mr. Trump and his campaign and his associates have done nothing wrong, they have no reason to want to end the Mueller investigation.  The attempt to stop that investigation is not only consciousness of guilt, it is in these circumstances almost a direct admission of guilt.

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4 hours ago, WhenFalconsWin said:
5 hours ago, SpongeDad said:

My wife has great teeth. She was an outcast there.

No doubt :lol:

This guy is right at home though

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lol. This investigation is a joke, as has been proved many times. They literally used opposition research to open this investigation and the special counsel is full of hardened Democrats. Andy McCabe getting his *** fired just two days before retirement was ******* hilarious. Inventing "insurance policies" in the event that the wrong candidate wins is a disgusting assault on our democracy. Good thing DJT has another 7 years to drain the swamp. 

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‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer

Robert Mueller’s team has taken over the investigation of Guccifer 2.0, who communicated with (and was defended by) longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer

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On 3/22/2018 at 7:44 AM, big_dog said:

Mueller has a lot of things he's looking into. It takes time because there is so much to look at.

But if Mr. Trump and his campaign and his associates have done nothing wrong, they have no reason to want to end the Mueller investigation.  The attempt to stop that investigation is not only consciousness of guilt, it is in these circumstances almost a direct admission of guilt.

It's my understanding that this investigation is costing tax payer's ten's of millions of dollars. I believe if Mueller had any evidence, surely he would have come forward with it by now. He has unlimited spending, but no proof to this point even with (all) his Dem's on the payroll.

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9 hours ago, caver50 said:

It's my understanding that this investigation is costing tax payer's ten's of millions of dollars. I believe if Mueller had any evidence, surely he would have come forward with it by now. He has unlimited spending, but no proof to this point even with (all) his Dem's on the payroll.

Mueller has so many wrong doings that are building up on the POTUS that it is taking time. If he had nothing, he would have already ended the investigation with the several arrests he already had made. These arrests have opened the window to new crimes, (mainly obstruction) so just be patient, stop worrying about the cost of the investigation and stop with the D's on the payroll. Mueller is a republican and an honest one too.

It's Mueller Time Pin - Robert Mueller Enamel Pin by Real Sic

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Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's investigation just drew what appears to be its most direct line to date between President Trump's 2016 campaign and Russia. By Aaron Blake is senior political reporter for The Fix. A Minnesota native, he has also written about politics for the Minneapolis Star Tribune and the Hill newspaper.

That line is drawn in a new court filing related to the upcoming sentencing of London attorney Alex van der Zwaan. Van der Zwaan has pleaded guilty to lying about his contacts with deputy Trump campaign manager Rick Gates and a person who is not named in the document, Person A. Person A appears to be a former Ukraine-based aide to Gates and Paul Manafort named Konstantin Kilimnik.

Here's the paragraph:

Fourth, the lies and withholding of documents were material to the Special Counsel’s Office’s investigation. That Gates and Person A were directly communicating in September and October 2016 was pertinent to the investigation. Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agents assisting the Special Counsel’s Office assess that Person A has ties to Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016. During his first interview with the Special Counsel’s Office, van der Zwaan admitted that he knew of that connection, stating that Gates told him Person A was a former Russian Intelligence Officer with GRU.

That Person A has had ties to Russian intelligence is not terribly surprising. Kilimnik's personal history has been examined extensively by the media, including The Washington Post. He has denied being involved in Russian intelligence, but he served in the Russian military and attended a Russian military foreign language university that is seen as a breeding ground for intelligence agents.

What's particularly significant in the Mueller filing, though, are six words: “and had such ties in 2016.” Prosecutors have said previously that a longtime Manafort and Gates associate had ties to Russian intelligence, but it has never said those ties remained during the 2016 campaign.

The other new piece here is that they say Gates described Person A (again, apparently Kilimnik) as “a former Russian Intelligence Officer with GRU.” (GRU is Russia's military intelligence organization.) So according to van der Zwaan, Gates talked openly about Person A's ties to Russian intelligence. Kilimnik told The Post back in June 2017 that he has “no relation to the Russian or any other intelligence service.” Mueller is now apparently directly disputing that using Gates's own words.

Ever since his guilty plea last month, it's been unclear what van der Zwaan's relation to the case was. We know he is the son-in-law of a prominent Russian Ukrainian banker, but as with other figures in this case, we have no idea why he lied to investigators. Was it an honest mistake, or was he covering something up?

Update:

Van Der Zwann was charged with giving a false statement which involved the revelation of a former GRU intelligence officer having ties to Paul Manafort and Rick Gates. The identity of that officer (Person A) is still not official, but multiple sources have suggested that it may be Konstantin Klimnik.

The sentencing document for Van Der Zwann is useful in identifying one relationship of Russian military intelligence (GRU) to the Trump presidential campaign.

Mueller’s investigation has been systematic in keeping the probe moving forward from ancillary defendants up though the chain of authority.

…the first defendant in Mueller’s probe to face sentencing, on April 3.

….when Mueller’s office asked about his interactions with Gates and the other person, he lied because he feared his firm might fire him for recording the call, according to the memo.

Tick tock . . . . . Tick tock . . . .    Watch out Trump.  It's Mueller Time Pin - Robert Mueller Enamel Pin by Real Sic

 

 

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On 3/28/2018 at 9:41 AM, big_dog said:

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's investigation just drew what appears to be its most direct line to date between President Trump's 2016 campaign and Russia. By Aaron Blake is senior political reporter for The Fix. A Minnesota native, he has also written about politics for the Minneapolis Star Tribune and the Hill newspaper.

That line is drawn in a new court filing related to the upcoming sentencing of London attorney Alex van der Zwaan. Van der Zwaan has pleaded guilty to lying about his contacts with deputy Trump campaign manager Rick Gates and a person who is not named in the document, Person A. Person A appears to be a former Ukraine-based aide to Gates and Paul Manafort named Konstantin Kilimnik.

Here's the paragraph:

Fourth, the lies and withholding of documents were material to the Special Counsel’s Office’s investigation. That Gates and Person A were directly communicating in September and October 2016 was pertinent to the investigation. Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agents assisting the Special Counsel’s Office assess that Person A has ties to Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016. During his first interview with the Special Counsel’s Office, van der Zwaan admitted that he knew of that connection, stating that Gates told him Person A was a former Russian Intelligence Officer with GRU.

That Person A has had ties to Russian intelligence is not terribly surprising. Kilimnik's personal history has been examined extensively by the media, including The Washington Post. He has denied being involved in Russian intelligence, but he served in the Russian military and attended a Russian military foreign language university that is seen as a breeding ground for intelligence agents.

What's particularly significant in the Mueller filing, though, are six words: “and had such ties in 2016.” Prosecutors have said previously that a longtime Manafort and Gates associate had ties to Russian intelligence, but it has never said those ties remained during the 2016 campaign.

The other new piece here is that they say Gates described Person A (again, apparently Kilimnik) as “a former Russian Intelligence Officer with GRU.” (GRU is Russia's military intelligence organization.) So according to van der Zwaan, Gates talked openly about Person A's ties to Russian intelligence. Kilimnik told The Post back in June 2017 that he has “no relation to the Russian or any other intelligence service.” Mueller is now apparently directly disputing that using Gates's own words.

Ever since his guilty plea last month, it's been unclear what van der Zwaan's relation to the case was. We know he is the son-in-law of a prominent Russian Ukrainian banker, but as with other figures in this case, we have no idea why he lied to investigators. Was it an honest mistake, or was he covering something up?

Update:

Van Der Zwann was charged with giving a false statement which involved the revelation of a former GRU intelligence officer having ties to Paul Manafort and Rick Gates. The identity of that officer (Person A) is still not official, but multiple sources have suggested that it may be Konstantin Klimnik.

The sentencing document for Van Der Zwann is useful in identifying one relationship of Russian military intelligence (GRU) to the Trump presidential campaign.

Mueller’s investigation has been systematic in keeping the probe moving forward from ancillary defendants up though the chain of authority.

…the first defendant in Mueller’s probe to face sentencing, on April 3.

….when Mueller’s office asked about his interactions with Gates and the other person, he lied because he feared his firm might fire him for recording the call, according to the memo.

Tick tock . . . . . Tick tock . . . .    Watch out Trump.  It's Mueller Time Pin - Robert Mueller Enamel Pin by Real Sic

 

 

Tick Tock  watch out dems, after all, you haven't been right about anything yet. The swamp is being drained.

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32 minutes ago, caver50 said:

Tick Tock  watch out dems, after all, you haven't been right about anything yet. The swamp is being drained.

Derp

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9 hours ago, caver50 said:

Tick Tock  watch out dems, after all, you haven't been right about anything yet. The swamp is being drained.

Dork

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Truth, Justice and the American way marches on.   :slick:

Trump ally detained, served with Mueller subpoena at Boston airport
Ted Malloch said FBI agents asked him about Roger Stone and WikiLeaks. by Tom Winter / Mar.30.2018 / 2:49 PM ET

A professor and author who once presented himself as a possible Trump administration ambassador to the European Union was detained and questioned by the FBI at Boston Logan airport and served a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is probing possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
Ted Malloch said in an emailed statement to NBC News that he was flying from his home in the U.K. via Boston to Cleveland, Ohio to celebrate Easter when he was stopped Wednesday, an incident first reported by the Guardian.

NBC News has independently confirmed that Malloch was detained and questioned at the airport, but not the details of the encounter. According to Malloch, when he exited his flight from London he was taken aside by a TSA official and an FBI agent.    :munch: 

 

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