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Stone is still up Trump's ***. He did an AMA on Reddit and it was just painful to read his blatant shilling for Trump. 

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1 minute ago, Spectre said:

Stone is still up Trump's ***. He did an AMA on Reddit and it was just painful to read his blatant shilling for Trump. 

He's said and done some wacky stuff so nothing surprises me with him to be honest...

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5 hours ago, falconsd56 said:

Ummn yeah he did.

 

He clearly said that he did not have contact......when he did.

That is a lie.

Now  again I doubt that what ever was talked about was nefarious in nature. But the fact is that he said something that he knew was untrue.

As I've been saying, we need to be careful with this.

Clinton clearly said that there was no classified information on her email server.  There was.

That is a lie?

A false statement is not always a lie.  A false statement under oath is not always perjury.  

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3 hours ago, Spectre said:

If it was no big deal, why did he recuse himself in response to this coming out? Why did he go out of his way to lie about something he wasn't even asked? 

If Russia is such a big threat to the US why did Obama lie?

 

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6 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

If Russia is such a big threat to the US why did Obama lie?

 

Pure hypocrisy on the left. Russia is no threat when convenient. Uranium one debacle under their watch. Trump may be a lot of things but working for Russia isn't one of them.

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1 minute ago, Spectre said:

Whataboutism. Obama and Hillary are not running the government. 

BOOM

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52 minutes ago, Spectre said:

Whataboutism. Obama and Hillary are not running the government. 

Obama is still trying to run it.  Obama operatives leaking out fake BS.  He should be investigated.

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2 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Obama is still trying to run it.  Obama operatives leaking out fake BS.  He should be investigated.

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent to lawful authority.

Obama/Soros for Prison!

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9 hours ago, JDaveG said:

A lot to do about nothing.  

But, sorry, if you care about this, then let’s back up and see the exchange in context:

FRANKEN: CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that, quote, “Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.” These documents also allegedly say, quote, “There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump’s surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.”

Now, again, I’m telling you this as it’s coming out, so you know. But if it’s true, it’s obviously extremely serious, and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?

SESSIONS: Senator Franken, I’m not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn’t have—did not have communications with the Russians, and I’m unable to comment on it.

Now, unless you’ve gone into full “time for some game theory” mode, you would be hard-pressed to miss that that “communications with the Russians” is shorthand for “communications of the sort that CNN is alleging,” not “any sort of communication with any Russian official ever.”

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4 hours ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Now, unless you’ve gone into full “time for some game theory” mode

That^^ was another good article. I linked it back when it came out:

On 12/17/2016 at 1:48 PM, Billy Ocean said:

Whatever Russia did or didn’t do, the idea that its interference is what cost Hillary Clinton the election is utterly ludicrous and absolutely false. What cost Hillary Clinton the election can be summed up by a single line from Sen. Chuck Schumer, soon to be the country’s highest-ranking Democrat: “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” As it turned out, he was fatally wrong. It wasn’t the Russians who told the Democratic Party to abandon the working-class people of all races who used to form its electoral base. It wasn’t the Russians who decided to run a presidential campaign that offered people nothing but blackmail—“vote for us or Dangerous Donald wins.” The Russians didn’t come up with awful tin-eared catchphrases like “I’m with her” or “America is already great.” The Russians never ordered the DNC to run one of the most widely despised people in the country, simply because she thought it was her turn. The Democrats did that all by themselves.

What the Russia obsession represents is a massive ethical failure on the part of American liberals. People really will suffer under President Trump—women, queer people, Muslims, poor people of every stripe. But so many in the centrist establishment don’t seem to care. They’re far too busy weaving themselves into intricate geopolitical power plays that don’t really exist, searching for a narrative that exonerates them from having let this happen, to do anything like real political work. They won’t accept that Trumpism is America, in all its blood-splattered horror—that the dry civics lesson of a democracy they love so much is capable of creating a monster. Decades of neoliberal policy disenfranchised people to the extent that Donald Trump could look like a savior; far better to just hide your bad conscience somewhere far away in Eastern Europe. It wasn’t us, it wasn’t our country, we were all duped by Putin. And if this means falling into reactionary paranoia, screaming red-faced about traitors and spies, slobbering embarrassingly over the incoherent rants of any two-bit con artist whose name isn’t Donald Trump—so be it. None of this will help anyone or achieve anything, but that’s not the point.

“The Rise of the Alt-Center,” Sam Kriss, Slate

 

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58 minutes ago, DewTheMathis said:

Yawn, says the DNC fan that is probably smoking a Cuban cigar with Fidel Castro's family.  I wonder if Obama will visit Moscow on vacation like Bernie Sanders did, lol DNC is a joke.

Da Fuq are you talkin about?

Dago is far from a DNC fan...

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https://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/alex-oronov-organizer-russia-ukraine-blackmail-plan-sent-donald-trump-dropped-dead/1785/

Yet another key figure in the Trump-Russia scandal has suddenly dropped dead. A meeting was organized between Donald Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen, Russian mafia figure Felix Sater, and Ukrainian traitor Andrii Artemenko. They crafted a Kremlin-backed plan which involved Trump using Russian blackmail to oust the president of the Ukraine. That plan was delivered to Michael Flynn’s just before he resigned. The meeting was organized by Alex Oronov – and now he’s dead.

Alex Oronov was the father in law of Michael Cohen’s brother, making them extended family. Oronov did business in the Ukraine and was connected to Artemenko. It was Artemenko who angrily announced today in an extended Russian-language rant on his Facebook page that Oronov has died. And while he doesn’t say specifically how Oronov died, he directly blames the New York Times article which first exposed the secret plan for causing his death. In other words, he’s vaguely suggesting that Oronov was murdered (perhaps by Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin) as a result of having been publicly exposed.

Talking Points Memo has reported the death of Alex Oronov, who died two days ago. This makes him at least the fourth Trump-Russia conspirator to die during the scandal. In all, seven prominent Russian diplomats and operatives have died since the scandal began. Palmer Report has been documenting a running list, found below.

Sergei Krivov died at the Russian consulate in New York on election day with his skull bashed in. Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB agent who contributed intel to the Trump-Russia dossier, was found dead in the back of a car. Sergei Mikhailov, another Russian intel agent, was dragged out of a meeting with a bag on his head. See our full list of Russian operatives who have died during the Trump-Russia scandal for the full rundown. Contribute to Palmer Report

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Add another individual to the body count. If we don't reign in this lunatic, more people like this are going to start showing up outside their basements.

 

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9 hours ago, Spectre said:

https://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/alex-oronov-organizer-russia-ukraine-blackmail-plan-sent-donald-trump-dropped-dead/1785/

Yet another key figure in the Trump-Russia scandal has suddenly dropped dead. A meeting was organized between Donald Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen, Russian mafia figure Felix Sater, and Ukrainian traitor Andrii Artemenko. They crafted a Kremlin-backed plan which involved Trump using Russian blackmail to oust the president of the Ukraine. That plan was delivered to Michael Flynn’s just before he resigned. The meeting was organized by Alex Oronov – and now he’s dead.

Alex Oronov was the father in law of Michael Cohen’s brother, making them extended family. Oronov did business in the Ukraine and was connected to Artemenko. It was Artemenko who angrily announced today in an extended Russian-language rant on his Facebook page that Oronov has died. And while he doesn’t say specifically how Oronov died, he directly blames the New York Times article which first exposed the secret plan for causing his death. In other words, he’s vaguely suggesting that Oronov was murdered (perhaps by Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin) as a result of having been publicly exposed.

Talking Points Memo has reported the death of Alex Oronov, who died two days ago. This makes him at least the fourth Trump-Russia conspirator to die during the scandal. In all, seven prominent Russian diplomats and operatives have died since the scandal began. Palmer Report has been documenting a running list, found below.

Sergei Krivov died at the Russian consulate in New York on election day with his skull bashed in. Oleg Erovinkin, a former KGB agent who contributed intel to the Trump-Russia dossier, was found dead in the back of a car. Sergei Mikhailov, another Russian intel agent, was dragged out of a meeting with a bag on his head. See our full list of Russian operatives who have died during the Trump-Russia scandal for the full rundown. Contribute to Palmer Report

See? Liberals are killing people by investigating this! They need to stop!

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2 hours ago, The Legendary SB said:

 

 

2 hours ago, The Legendary SB said:

 

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