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The Trump Presidency

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3 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

 

NYT already has an article claiming it's a 'mental disorder' and we should be 'helping' them.

Pedophilia has been classified as a mental disorder forever man.

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4 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

You can leave the church, but the church don't leave you!

I know. Right when you feel like you don't have to bother with that anymore the religious right keeps trying to pass religious freedom laws. :( At least David Ralston said he's had enough with attempts to pass those laws in Georgia so we [most likely/hopefully] won't have to deal with that nonsense here.

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6 minutes ago, Jpowers said:

Pedophilia has been classified as a mental disorder forever man.

At the very least he's differentiating the alphabet soup from pedophilia, unlike certain others on here. I'll give him credit for that.

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1 minute ago, Worzone said:

From now on you must refer to me by my pronoun The Greatest. anyone not referring to me as the Greatest is violating my civil rights. 

I'm glad you clarified that because I was going to call you "floats like a butterfly stings like a bee" I was :D

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It all starts when people start saying that raping your wife is still rape. Then we start making excuses for sexual deviants, start calling the filthy choices sinners make their "sexuality" or a "disorder" or something, and then you're marrying kids off to animals over a pit of burning Bibles. I started Shameless a month ago and I'm on season 4. 

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16 hours ago, Worzone said:

Your not going to be able to say fathers or mothers soon. 

History class  gonna be like, today we are going to talk about Americas founding  biological figures. 

Remember when you said it would be criminalized to preach that homosexuality is a sin? Good times. 

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2 hours ago, mdrake34 said:

Remember when you said it would be criminalized to preach that homosexuality is a sin? Good times. 

You're so sure that it won't? To be fair the Canadian Supreme Court justified their decision because they said this guy's message extended beyond the holy teaching into hate speech, but a slippery slope to be sure for Canada, and if it can happen there I don't think it's beyond imagination at all that many in our society could agree that this philosophy should be here as well. It would only take the election of like minded people. I don't see it coming around the corner, but to just outright dismiss the possibility, and to even go further by ridiculing anyone who disagrees is short sighted and dense.

http://www.thepinkhumanist.com/news/back-issue-features/55-canadian-court-rules-against-biblical-hate-speech

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24 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

Good news. Trump says he doesn't need daily intelligence briefings, because he's a "smart person".

He's got this, y'all

http://time.com/4597376/donald-trump-fox-news-intelligence-cia-russia/?xid=time_socialflow_facebook

He knows words......lots of great smart words....he does not need to read more words that are not as great .

 

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7 minutes ago, silentbob1272 said:

You're so sure that it won't? To be fair the Canadian Supreme Court justified their decision because they said this guy's message extended beyond the holy teaching into hate speech, but a slippery slope to be sure for Canada, and if it can happen there I don't think it's beyond imagination at all that many in our society could agree that this philosophy should be here as well. It would only take the election of like minded people. I don't see it coming around the corner, but to just outright dismiss the possibility, and to even go further by ridiculing anyone who disagrees is short sighted and dense.

http://www.thepinkhumanist.com/news/back-issue-features/55-canadian-court-rules-against-biblical-hate-speech

Last time I checked freedom of speech as guaranteed by the first amendment is not the same as free speech in canada. 

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1 minute ago, silentbob1272 said:

You're so sure that it won't? To be fair the Canadian Supreme Court justified their decision because they said this guy's message extended beyond the holy teaching into hate speech, but a slippery slope to be sure for Canada, and if it can happen there I don't think it's beyond imagination at all that many in our society could agree that this philosophy should be here as well. It would only take the election of like minded people. I don't see it coming around the corner, but to just outright dismiss the possibility, and to even go further by ridiculing anyone who disagrees is short sighted and dense.

http://www.thepinkhumanist.com/news/back-issue-features/55-canadian-court-rules-against-biblical-hate-speech

No, it wouldn't. Free speech operates differently in Canada than it does here. There it can, and is, regulated to prosecute speech that is designated as hateful (among other things). You could say it's more of a privilege there than a right there.

Here you can say pretty much anything you want short of threatening or inciting violence. The closest thing you'll get here in terms of laws are ones where businesses, schools, etc. are barred from denying service to protected classes of people who have historically been discriminated against.

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2 hours ago, mdrake34 said:

Remember when you said it would be criminalized to preach that homosexuality is a sin? Good times. 

That and when he claimed there could...it should be a civil war  because marriage equality was made the law

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20 minutes ago, Gritzblitz 2.0 said:

Good news. Trump says he doesn't need daily intelligence briefings, because he's a "smart person".

He's got this, y'all

http://time.com/4597376/donald-trump-fox-news-intelligence-cia-russia/?xid=time_socialflow_facebook

“I say, ‘If something should change from this point, immediately call me. I’m available on one-minute’s notice,'” he said. “I don’t have to be told—you know, I’m, like, a smart person. I don’t have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years.”

People don't click links, so just for clarifications sake.

I see his point, but I always railed on Obama and how oblivious he was to the optics of his idiotic behavior (running to play golf the moment after giving a presser on an American being beheaded). Same deal here. I hate repetitive meetings as well, but he should take the daily briefing, someone may decide that subtle changes may not warrant a call to the president, but these changes are still important for him to know.

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7 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

No, it wouldn't. Free speech operates differently in Canada than it does here. There it can, and is, regulated to prosecute speech that is designated as hateful (among other things). You could say it's more of a privilege there than a right there.

Here you can say pretty much anything you want short of threatening or inciting violence. The closest thing you'll get here in terms of laws are ones where businesses, schools, etc. are barred from denying service to protected classes of people who have historically been discriminated against.

I agree and I thought I was clear on that, but there is a potential loophole, you listed it above. The same thing has happened in Sweden as has in Canada. Hate speech potentially has a wide range of interpretations. You may think that someone who sees a more far flung interpenetration of scripture as "Biblical hate speech" will never also see that same speech as an inspiration for violence and will not try labeling it as such. I'm not as certain of that. Hopefully you're right.

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2 minutes ago, silentbob1272 said:

The same thing has happened in Sweden as has in Canada.

Again, comparisons of free speech in other countries does not support anyone's arguments in free speech in America. 

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6 minutes ago, silentbob1272 said:

I agree and I thought I was clear on that, but there is a potential loophole, you listed it above. The same thing has happened in Sweden as has in Canada. Hate speech potentially has a wide range of interpretations. You may think that someone who sees a more far flung interpenetration of scripture as "Biblical hate speech" will never also see that same speech as an inspiration for violence and will not try labeling it as such. I'm not as certain of that. Hopefully you're right.

Again, the concepts and legal frameworks of freedom of speech are fundamentally different between the United States and those countries. I get you want to push this because it fits a 'liberals are going to take our freedom away,' narrative but it's just not flying.

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12 minutes ago, Psychic Gibbon said:

A I get you want to push this because it fits a 'liberals are going to take our freedom away,' narrative but it's just not flying.

 

17 hours ago, Billy Ocean said:

 

Now the Republicans have more power at the federal level than they've had in ~90 years -- as well as more power at the state & local level than they've had in.. hmm I dunno.. ever? -- and so far all some Democrats seem to wanna do is play the blame game. They really need to get their sh*t together. It's embarrassing.

 

Especially given this.  How are the democrats going to trample free speech when they don't even have the power to do so?  Goreadup has already assured us Trump will be a two term president. 

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1 hour ago, mdrake34 said:

Especially given this.  How are the democrats going to trample free speech when they don't even have the power to do so?  Goreadup has already assured us Trump will be a two term president. 

Youtube and Twitter already have bias teams to ban conservative viewpoints. Universities around the country have already passed censorship rules. A few "news" sites already pledged to be even more biased to ensure Trump doesn't happen again.

Since they lost politically, the left has increased their efforts culturally.

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15 minutes ago, unbelievable said:

Youtube and Twitter already have bias teams to ban conservative viewpoints. Universities around the country have already passed censorship rules. A few "news" sites already pledged to be even more biased to ensure Trump doesn't happen again.

Since they lost politically, the left has increased their efforts culturally.

I thought they did all of that before the election? And I thought you said Trump would take back universities? I might be thinking of one of your other alts though, hmfic 

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3 hours ago, mdrake34 said:

I thought they did all of that before the election? And I thought you said Trump would take back universities? I might be thinking of one of your other alts though, hmfic 

They've escalated from whining to temper tantrum.

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