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31 minutes ago, silentbob1272 said:

 

So yes, we need an antidote to this sort of media — and that often comes in the likes of the Federalist — who did an epic take-down of Mr. Bump last week — or The Washington Times, Washington Free-Beacon, The Daily Caller, and, yes, Breitbart.

None of it is fake — it’s merely doing the job the mainstream media refuses to do.

Yes indeed.

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36 minutes ago, silentbob1272 said:

Using fake news against opposing views

What worries me the most about fake news, isn’t that it’s fake, it’s that it’s being used by the left to try to silence opposing views.

Take for example a story reported by the Los Angeles Times that included a professor who put together a Google document of “false, misleading, clickbait-y and satirical ‘news sources’” to help people “cleanse their newsfeeds of misinformation.”

The only problem with the list, was it included real news sites of which the professor simply didn’t agree. Conservative blogs, including Red State and The Blaze, were on the list, as was more centrist, but GOP-leaning Independent Journal Review (IJR). None of those sites are fake — they often just peddle in the real news purposely not covered by the mainstream media.

“Not all of these sources are always or inherently problematic, neither are all of them fake or false,” the professor, Melissa Zimdars, at Merrimack College in Massachusetts told the Times. ” … They should be considered in conjunction with other news/info sources due to their tendency to rely on clickbait headlines or Facebook descriptions, etc.”

So, just like MSNBC, Huffington Post, Slate, Mother Jones, and ThinkProgress — all partisan left outlets, which often use exaggeration and hyperbole to emphasize their point — which weren’t included on her list.

CNN’s media columnist Brian Stelter also has warned about “fake news,” but in his diatribe, he included right-leaning Fox News and alt-right website Breitbart in the mix.

 

“Breitbart is anti-media. Much of Fox News is anti-media. Fake news websites and some right wing blogs are anti-media. These outlets provide a different audience with a different set of facts about the world. But too often what they’re really selling is opinion and conspiracy theory masquerading as fact. These sites, these outlets, they present themselves as the opposite of traditional news sources, the antidote to mainstream media,” he said.

What he’s right about is there does need to be an antidote to the mainstream media. Because often what he — and other newsrooms around the country — view as “opinion and conspiracy theory” are all too often real news stories that simply don’t fit their agenda.

The possibility that Donald Trump could become president? CNN never had a map that could get him to 270 electoral votes. Respected pollster FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver got chastised the week leading up to the election because he had Mr. Trump’s chances at about 30 percent — far higher than any of the broadcast networks or other pollsters who engaged in group-think.

Paid protesters are another example.

We know, after an undercover video was released by conservative group Project Veritas, that two Democratic operatives had to step down from their positions because it looked as though they were trying to hire protesters to incite violence at Mr. Trump’s rallies.

These two men didn’t lose their jobs because they were innocent — or because the videos were “highly edited” like the mainstream media charged. Clearly something was going on there. But only right-wing outlets (or “fake,” “anti-media” blogs) covered it, with barely a mention at CNN, NPR or any of the broadcast news networks.

When Mr. Trump said during a presidential debate that protesters were hired and told to do “bad things” at his rallies, PolitiFact even admitted that “too much remains unknown to put it on the Truth-O-Meter.”

So it seems like it would be something investigative journalists would want to, well, investigate.

But not according to Washington Post reporter Phillip Bump.

When Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse asked on Twitter after the election, why wasn’t there more reporting on the anti-Trump protests — like who they were organized by and if they were paid for — Mr. Bump took offense.

“Sasse’s question is a bit like asking why we don’t have more reporting on the fact that the Moon is preparing a superweapon with which to annex Antarctica,” Mr. Bump wrote, in an article titled: “Sen. Sasse here are some answers to your questions about ‘paid rioting.’”

When confronted on Twitter about his lack of intellectual curiosity from a reader, Mr. Bump responded: “Allow me to reply in a way you’ll grasp: derp, derp, derp.”

So yes, we need an antidote to this sort of media — and that often comes in the likes of the Federalist — who did an epic take-down of Mr. Bump last week — or The Washington Times, Washington Free-Beacon, The Daily Caller, and, yes, Breitbart.

None of it is fake — it’s merely doing the job the mainstream media refuses to do.

That is why I read a variety of sources. Many times some of those less than main stream commentators prove to be more correct and accurate over time.

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19 minutes ago, kicker said:

CNN aired a fake news story of itself about its Boston affiliate airing hardcore prob for 30 minutes.  All the major outlets also picked it up.  Brilliant work people.  

Wonder if anyone else knew of this, but did not report it without true verification? 

CNN, which has come under enormous scrutiny for its lack of editorial standards over the course of the 2016 presidential election, fell for a series of so-called “fake news” reports that hammered its own network on Friday.

Late Thursday evening on Thanksgiving, a Twitter user in the Boston area reported that CNN was airing hardcore pornography for 30 minutes through local provider RCN. The original report on those Tweets surfaced in The Independent, a leading left-of-center newspaper based in the United Kingdom. From there, the story spread like wildfire to many other media outlets including Variety magazine, the U.K. Daily Mail, the New York Post, Esquire magazine and Mashable, among others.

Throughout all of this, the Breitbart News Network team was aggressively researching television video capturing services like TV Eyes and Critical Mention, among others, and scouring social media looking for evidence. We reached out to CNN, asking at least two different spokespersons for comment on the matter and even asking the producer for resident media critic Brian Stelter’s program Reliable Sources for comment.

Breitbart News sent CNN spokeswoman Emily Kuhn a link to the Independent’s original post, asking: “Any comment on why CNN was airing this in Boston? Will anyone be held accountable?”

Kuhn didn’t reply. So Breitbart News also reached out to Stelter’s producer Shanta Covington, asking: “Wanted to see if Brian has any comment on why CNN was airing a half an hour of nonstop hardcore pornography? Does he still think you guys are a news organization?”

Covington, and Stelter, didn’t reply.

 

But, since this network has higher editorial standards than anyone else and seeks actual evidence before publishing such a story, Breitbart News still sought more evidence before rushing out there with something. No evidence emerged, which made our entire editorial team skeptical—we wondered how, if this aired for 30 minutes in a huge media market like Boston, there was no video emerging online of it?

Eventually, CNN actually confirmed that it did air “inappropriate content” and was seeking an “explanation” from RCN.

“The RCN cable operator in Boston aired inappropriate content for 30 minutes on CNN last night. CNN has asked for an explanation,” CNN said in its statement, seemingly confirming the impropriety.

Even pornography websites like Brazzers mocked CNN for it, saying that airing such pornography would amount to the “least offensive” thing the network has done in the last year.

But Breitbart News still wasn’t satisfied it actually happened and reached out to Kuhn once more with a link to a story from The Verge containing CNN’s admission of impropriety, a piece that called the entire fiasco “fake news.” Fake news is the new phenomenon emerging in the wake of Donald Trump’s landslide victory whereby establishment outlets are targeting new media outlets that are booming in growth while establishment media crumbles. So Breitbart News sought additional confirmation from Kuhn before publishing anything, trying to ensure that the accurate story was told when we eventually reported the news.

“They’re saying it’s ‘fake news,’” Breitbart News emailed Kuhn. “But CNN is confirming that ‘inappropriate content’ aired in the statement quoted here. So did CNN air pornography or not? We want to get the details correct, given Breitbart’s high editorial standards. Please let me know.”

Kuhn still hasn’t answered. But now, according to the originally incorrect report from Variety, which was based on the inaccurate piece from the Independent, both CNN and RCN are denying the reports CNN admitted to — that they aired inappropriate content for 30 minutes on Thanksgiving in Boston.

It turns out, even when the news is about CNN and the rest of the media, Breitbart News is one of the only places you can trust to take the time and make the effort to get it right before rushing click bait online. The rest of the media is compromised, even CNN — and CNN is even compromised when it comes to information about CNN.

This all comes in the wake of several legacy media outlet reporters admitting on Breitbart News Daily’s Thanksgiving radio special on SiriusXM 125 Patriot Channel that their industry faces significant credibility problems. Stelter, CNN’s media reporter, was invited on the show as well, but Kuhn told Breitbart News he was unable to make the time to appear outside CNN to defend CNN.

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Fake News??

You mean the government isn't coming to get our guns?  Put us all in FEMA Death Camps?  Make us convert to Islam and live under Sharia Law?  I thought Obama was going to declare martial law and cancel the election so he could declare himself King? Maybe he is just waiting to do this before inauguration day.... yeah, that's it!!

:lol:

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3 minutes ago, DirtyBirdNorth said:

Fake News??

You mean the government isn't coming to get our guns?  Put us all in FEMA Death Camps?  Make us convert to Islam and live under Sharia Law?  I thought Obama was going to declare martial law and cancel the election so he could declare himself King? Maybe he is just waiting to do this before inauguration day.... yeah, that's it!!

:lol:

No, he is ready to lay on the beach in Hawaii, soak up some rays, play a little golf, and collect on all the speaking engagement money that is bequeathed on Ex-POTUS...nothing wrong with that

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12 minutes ago, DirtyBirdNorth said:

Fake News??

You mean the government isn't coming to get our guns?  Put us all in FEMA Death Camps?  Make us convert to Islam and live under Sharia Law?  I thought Obama was going to declare martial law and cancel the election so he could declare himself King? Maybe he is just waiting to do this before inauguration day.... yeah, that's it!!

:lol:

links to any of that from Drudge or even the Breitbart type sites.

 

Who is it again that is falling for the fake news?

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23 minutes ago, DirtyBirdNorth said:

Fake News??

You mean the government isn't coming to get our guns?  Put us all in FEMA Death Camps?  Make us convert to Islam and live under Sharia Law?  I thought Obama was going to declare martial law and cancel the election so he could declare himself King? Maybe he is just waiting to do this before inauguration day.... yeah, that's it!!

:lol:

Remember when Alex Jones said Obama was going to invade Texas which led to the Governor of Texas threatening the military? Good times.

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17 minutes ago, lostone said:

Since nothing on the left is real news.  What and who should I listen to for good news coverage?  

Btw, could you please please please ask the right leaning sites to improve their look and feel?!  They usually look like a person with no html skills throwing ish onto a page.  

The Holy Spirit.

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1 hour ago, lostone said:

Since nothing on the left is real news.  What and who should I listen to for good news coverage?  

Btw, could you please please please ask the right leaning sites to improve their look and feel?!  They usually look like a person with no html skills throwing ish onto a page.  

The easiest way to tell if it's a fake news site is to check if if has a comments section at the bottom. No replies, mean they can't defend their own article.

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7 hours ago, lostone said:

Since nothing on the left is real news.  What and who should I listen to for good news coverage?  

Btw, could you please please please ask the right leaning sites to improve their look and feel?!  They usually look like a person with no html skills throwing ish onto a page.  

Yes, I suggest they take a page out of Mother Jones and try and emulate their professionalism.  

/purp

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20 hours ago, silentbob1272 said:

Wonder if anyone else knew of this, but did not report it without true verification? 

CNN, which has come under enormous scrutiny for its lack of editorial standards over the course of the 2016 presidential election, fell for a series of so-called “fake news” reports that hammered its own network on Friday.

Late Thursday evening on Thanksgiving, a Twitter user in the Boston area reported that CNN was airing hardcore pornography for 30 minutes through local provider RCN. The original report on those Tweets surfaced in The Independent, a leading left-of-center newspaper based in the United Kingdom. From there, the story spread like wildfire to many other media outlets including Variety magazine, the U.K. Daily Mail, the New York Post, Esquire magazine and Mashable, among others.

Throughout all of this, the Breitbart News Network team was aggressively researching television video capturing services like TV Eyes and Critical Mention, among others, and scouring social media looking for evidence. We reached out to CNN, asking at least two different spokespersons for comment on the matter and even asking the producer for resident media critic Brian Stelter’s program Reliable Sources for comment.

Breitbart News sent CNN spokeswoman Emily Kuhn a link to the Independent’s original post, asking: “Any comment on why CNN was airing this in Boston? Will anyone be held accountable?”

Kuhn didn’t reply. So Breitbart News also reached out to Stelter’s producer Shanta Covington, asking: “Wanted to see if Brian has any comment on why CNN was airing a half an hour of nonstop hardcore pornography? Does he still think you guys are a news organization?”

Covington, and Stelter, didn’t reply.

 

But, since this network has higher editorial standards than anyone else and seeks actual evidence before publishing such a story, Breitbart News still sought more evidence before rushing out there with something. No evidence emerged, which made our entire editorial team skeptical—we wondered how, if this aired for 30 minutes in a huge media market like Boston, there was no video emerging online of it?

Eventually, CNN actually confirmed that it did air “inappropriate content” and was seeking an “explanation” from RCN.

“The RCN cable operator in Boston aired inappropriate content for 30 minutes on CNN last night. CNN has asked for an explanation,” CNN said in its statement, seemingly confirming the impropriety.

Even pornography websites like Brazzers mocked CNN for it, saying that airing such pornography would amount to the “least offensive” thing the network has done in the last year.

But Breitbart News still wasn’t satisfied it actually happened and reached out to Kuhn once more with a link to a story from The Verge containing CNN’s admission of impropriety, a piece that called the entire fiasco “fake news.” Fake news is the new phenomenon emerging in the wake of Donald Trump’s landslide victory whereby establishment outlets are targeting new media outlets that are booming in growth while establishment media crumbles. So Breitbart News sought additional confirmation from Kuhn before publishing anything, trying to ensure that the accurate story was told when we eventually reported the news.

“They’re saying it’s ‘fake news,’” Breitbart News emailed Kuhn. “But CNN is confirming that ‘inappropriate content’ aired in the statement quoted here. So did CNN air pornography or not? We want to get the details correct, given Breitbart’s high editorial standards. Please let me know.”

Kuhn still hasn’t answered. But now, according to the originally incorrect report from Variety, which was based on the inaccurate piece from the Independent, both CNN and RCN are denying the reports CNN admitted to — that they aired inappropriate content for 30 minutes on Thanksgiving in Boston.

It turns out, even when the news is about CNN and the rest of the media, Breitbart News is one of the only places you can trust to take the time and make the effort to get it right before rushing click bait online. The rest of the media is compromised, even CNN — and CNN is even compromised when it comes to information about CNN.

This all comes in the wake of several legacy media outlet reporters admitting on Breitbart News Daily’s Thanksgiving radio special on SiriusXM 125 Patriot Channel that their industry faces significant credibility problems. Stelter, CNN’s media reporter, was invited on the show as well, but Kuhn told Breitbart News he was unable to make the time to appear outside CNN to defend CNN.

Thanks for the Breitbart article.

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On 11/26/2016 at 9:16 AM, silentbob1272 said:

Wonder if anyone else knew of this, but did not report it without true verification? 

CNN, which has come under enormous scrutiny for its lack of editorial standards over the course of the 2016 presidential election, fell for a series of so-called “fake news” reports that hammered its own network on Friday.

Late Thursday evening on Thanksgiving, a Twitter user in the Boston area reported that CNN was airing hardcore pornography for 30 minutes through local provider RCN. The original report on those Tweets surfaced in The Independent, a leading left-of-center newspaper based in the United Kingdom. From there, the story spread like wildfire to many other media outlets including Variety magazine, the U.K. Daily Mail, the New York Post, Esquire magazine and Mashable, among others.

Throughout all of this, the Breitbart News Network team was aggressively researching television video capturing services like TV Eyes and Critical Mention, among others, and scouring social media looking for evidence. We reached out to CNN, asking at least two different spokespersons for comment on the matter and even asking the producer for resident media critic Brian Stelter’s program Reliable Sources for comment.

Breitbart News sent CNN spokeswoman Emily Kuhn a link to the Independent’s original post, asking: “Any comment on why CNN was airing this in Boston? Will anyone be held accountable?”

Kuhn didn’t reply. So Breitbart News also reached out to Stelter’s producer Shanta Covington, asking: “Wanted to see if Brian has any comment on why CNN was airing a half an hour of nonstop hardcore pornography? Does he still think you guys are a news organization?”

Covington, and Stelter, didn’t reply.

 

But, since this network has higher editorial standards than anyone else and seeks actual evidence before publishing such a story, Breitbart News still sought more evidence before rushing out there with something. No evidence emerged, which made our entire editorial team skeptical—we wondered how, if this aired for 30 minutes in a huge media market like Boston, there was no video emerging online of it?

Eventually, CNN actually confirmed that it did air “inappropriate content” and was seeking an “explanation” from RCN.

“The RCN cable operator in Boston aired inappropriate content for 30 minutes on CNN last night. CNN has asked for an explanation,” CNN said in its statement, seemingly confirming the impropriety.

Even pornography websites like Brazzers mocked CNN for it, saying that airing such pornography would amount to the “least offensive” thing the network has done in the last year.

But Breitbart News still wasn’t satisfied it actually happened and reached out to Kuhn once more with a link to a story from The Verge containing CNN’s admission of impropriety, a piece that called the entire fiasco “fake news.” Fake news is the new phenomenon emerging in the wake of Donald Trump’s landslide victory whereby establishment outlets are targeting new media outlets that are booming in growth while establishment media crumbles. So Breitbart News sought additional confirmation from Kuhn before publishing anything, trying to ensure that the accurate story was told when we eventually reported the news.

“They’re saying it’s ‘fake news,’” Breitbart News emailed Kuhn. “But CNN is confirming that ‘inappropriate content’ aired in the statement quoted here. So did CNN air pornography or not? We want to get the details correct, given Breitbart’s high editorial standards. Please let me know.”

Kuhn still hasn’t answered. But now, according to the originally incorrect report from Variety, which was based on the inaccurate piece from the Independent, both CNN and RCN are denying the reports CNN admitted to — that they aired inappropriate content for 30 minutes on Thanksgiving in Boston.

It turns out, even when the news is about CNN and the rest of the media, Breitbart News is one of the only places you can trust to take the time and make the effort to get it right before rushing click bait online. The rest of the media is compromised, even CNN — and CNN is even compromised when it comes to information about CNN.

This all comes in the wake of several legacy media outlet reporters admitting on Breitbart News Daily’s Thanksgiving radio special on SiriusXM 125 Patriot Channel that their industry faces significant credibility problems. Stelter, CNN’s media reporter, was invited on the show as well, but Kuhn told Breitbart News he was unable to make the time to appear outside CNN to defend CNN.

"You can trust Breitbart...just ask Shirley Sherrod and ACORN."

FFS...what exactly is the point of you posting this, Bob?  Seriously.

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