AtlDraino Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) I was thinking about the Falcons and how they could run a 3-4 that would be beneficial to them. DT Grady NT Upshaw DT Hageman/Clayborn OLB Beasley OLB Reed MLB1 Jones MLB2 Campbell Does this seem legit? Or am I missing something? Edited September 9, 2016 by AtlDraino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 We are basically doing that man. No real difference between 3-4 and 4-3 Over/Under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 No. We run a 4-3 under with a base nickel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullie Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4-3 under is pretty much the same concept as a 3-4 unless I'm mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlDraino Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 I'm not sure. I think I would like to see Beasley stand up more, rather than have his hand in the dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlDraino Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Nope just defense. I really hope we do not start off 3-4. I'm just excited for week 1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Ahhh, 3-4 threads. These don't usually pop up until after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
215FalconsFanatic Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 upshaw is NOT and repeat not a NT. Also it negates what Grady and Clayborn do well. they are not 3-4 DE. I agree its a better fit for Jackson and maybe Hagemon but that is it. Also i dont know if Jones or Campbell can keep themselves clean in a 3-4 scheme as ILBs. Your line up will only work in Madden. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, 215FalconsFanatic said: upshaw is NOT and repeat not a NT. Also it negates what Grady and Clayborn do well. they are not 3-4 DE. I agree its a better fit for Jackson and maybe Hagemon but that is it. Also i dont know if Jones or Campbell can keep themselves clean in a 3-4 scheme as ILBs. Your line up will only work in Madden. Sorry. That's cold bruh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
215FalconsFanatic Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Knight of God said: That's cold bruh. Did i come off as negative? If so Draino, i apologize. Rough week at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 minute ago, 215FalconsFanatic said: Did i come off as negative? If so Draino, i apologize. Rough week at work. 1 minute ago, 215FalconsFanatic said: Did i come off as negative? If so Draino, i apologize. Rough week at work. No, I was laughing so hard that's all I could muster in text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 i'm looking for the 3rd and long 2-5...two DT's and 5 lb's/de's. where's the pressure coming from? beasley, jones, campbell, reed, and freeney. two or three are rushing the passer, 2 or 3 are covering. I'd like to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Nah it wouldn't be very effective IMO. Grady is a disrupter no doubt be he isn't big or athletic enough to play end in a 3-4. hags is another guy who is DT our staff just hasn't figured it out yet. And Upshaw is more of an end/OLB In a 3-4. This would be Beasley's best fit he fits the scheme to a T. And far as our linebackers I could see Cambell possibly making the transition but jones just isn't big or physical enough for that scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 51 minutes ago, Jesus said: No. We run a 4-3 under with a base nickel. 4-3 under is base. Nickel is just nickel when it's time. It really all depends on how a team lineups up but our base defense is 4-3 under because teams typically run on early downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, 215FalconsFanatic said: upshaw is NOT and repeat not a NT. Also it negates what Grady and Clayborn do well. they are not 3-4 DE. I agree its a better fit for Jackson and maybe Hagemon but that is it. Also i dont know if Jones or Campbell can keep themselves clean in a 3-4 scheme as ILBs. Your line up will only work in Madden. Sorry. We basically run a 3-4 tho brother. 4-3 under has 3-4 principles and basically 3-4 type players can make a 4-3 under work. The only difference is we don't blitz a lot and most 3-4 defenses love and die by the blitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlDraino Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 21 minutes ago, Knight of God said: That's cold bruh. I guess I will just go play madden.... haha... its cool bruh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, AtlDraino said: I guess I will just go play madden.... haha... its cool bruh! Nah, don't ever take it like that man. Just keep posting and having fun. All ideas are just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 25 minutes ago, 215FalconsFanatic said: upshaw is NOT and repeat not a NT. Also it negates what Grady and Clayborn do well. they are not 3-4 DE. I agree its a better fit for Jackson and maybe Hagemon but that is it. Also i dont know if Jones or Campbell can keep themselves clean in a 3-4 scheme as ILBs. Your line up will only work in Madden. Sorry. Won't work on madden either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlDraino Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Knight of God said: Nah, don't ever take it like that man. Just keep posting and having fun. All ideas are just that. I know. Being military and being stationed all over the place (Canada now) you meet and talk to a lot of different fans. Mostly Cowboys I hate to say. It is nice just talking Falcons and throwing out ideas with the fan base. It is hard to defend our team sometimes. I do my best with what I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 minute ago, AtlDraino said: I know. Being military and being stationed all over the place (Canada now) you meet and talk to a lot of different fans. Mostly Cowboys I hate to say. It is nice just talking Falcons and throwing out ideas with the fan base. It is hard to defend our team sometimes. I do my best with what I got. Definitely appreciate you man and I always encourage people to say what they think. Its all in fun. Always wanted to see Canada, just moved to the DC area, Northern Va. Started work as Armed Security and Special Police. They kill those guys in DC man. I'm like "dang!!!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: 4-3 under is base. Nickel is just nickel when it's time. It really all depends on how a team lineups up but our base defense is 4-3 under because teams typically run on early downs. Quinn has said we will run the nickel 60% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
215FalconsFanatic Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 54 minutes ago, TheFatboi said: We basically run a 3-4 tho brother. 4-3 under has 3-4 principles and basically 3-4 type players can make a 4-3 under work. The only difference is we don't blitz a lot and most 3-4 defenses love and die by the blitz. I know where you are coming from but i think saying that confuses most people. If you look at player placement and responsibility, its the same thing. they all goo back to the eagle and stack fronts/6-2, 5-3 fronts from yesteryear. i made a post about this a while ago and no one cared...lol...i found good books with diagrams and everything. Explains it fully. Also for anyone who is wondering what we are talking about. This sat look at alabama. there are times when you arent sure what front they are running because of what TheFatboi is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 31 minutes ago, Jesus said: Quinn has said we will run the nickel 60% of the time. That doesn't make it base defense tho. Base is typically what you run on early downs and since teams run on early downs usually if he calls base it'll be 4-3 under. Again, that depends on how a team comes out. If they come out 3 wide we'll be in nickel. Every team runs nickel but it's not their base. Regardless of what percentage you stay in it. Your base defense is usually the one set up for early run downs which would be 4-3 under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, 215FalconsFanatic said: I know where you are coming from but i think saying that confuses most people. If you look at player placement and responsibility, its the same thing. they all goo back to the eagle and stack fronts/6-2, 5-3 fronts from yesteryear. i made a post about this a while ago and no one cared...lol...i found good books with diagrams and everything. Explains it fully. Also for anyone who is wondering what we are talking about. This sat look at alabama. there are times when you arent sure what front they are running because of what TheFatboi is saying. Trust me they've been getting confused since Quinn first got hired. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnyjim Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Jailbreak Blitz said: Thought he was predicting the early season record. I want better, but 3-4 after 7 might be the road to the playoffs. I expect our young team to play better at years end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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