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Looks like our defense is shaping up quite nicely as we seem to be set at LB and the secondary hoping we keep Alford and how Jalen Collins continues to improve.

 

The only area that sticks out at the weak point of the team is the defensive line / pass rush

 

Looking forward to next year there will be a lot of turnover.

 

Dwight Freeney  Gone

Tyson Jackson  Gone

Jonathan Babineaux  Gone

 

Ra'Shede Hageman  (depends on 2016 season)

Courtney Upshaw (depends on 2016 season)

Brooks Reed (depends on 2016 season)

 

Adrian Clayborn Keep for 1017

Derrick Shelby Keep for 1017

Grady Jarrett Keep for 1017

Vic Beasley Jr. Keep for 1017

 

 

I could easily see us spending 2 out out 3 picks on DE / DT positions next year along with one free agent.

 

Best case scenario Hageman really steps up a and becomes a force on the Dline.

 

The defense is one year away from having the pieces in place to contend for the SB but I hope Quin can get them to play above expectations as our offense has the ability to be top 5 this year.

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6 hours ago, momak said:

Looks like our defense is shaping up quite nicely as we seem to be set at LB and the secondary hoping we keep Alford and how Jalen Collins continues to improve.

 

 

 

The only area that sticks out at the weak point of the team is the defensive line / pass rush

 

 

 

Looking forward to next year there will be a lot of turnover.

 

 

 

Dwight Freeney  Gone

 

Tyson Jackson  Gone

 

Jonathan Babineaux  Gone

 

 

 

Ra'Shede Hageman  (depends on 2016 season)

 

Courtney Upshaw (depends on 2016 season)

 

Brooks Reed (depends on 2016 season)

 

 

 

Adrian Clayborn Keep for 1017

 

Derrick Shelby Keep for 1017

 

Grady Jarrett Keep for 1017

 

Vic Beasley Jr. Keep for 1017

 

 

 

 

 

I could easily see us spending 2 out out 3 picks on DE / DT positions next year along with one free agent.

 

 

 

Best case scenario Hageman really steps up a and becomes a force on the Dline.

 

 

 

The defense is one year away from having the pieces in place to contend for the SB but I hope Quin can get them to play above expectations as our offense has the ability to be top 5 this year.

 

You are completely wrong, the word around here is we were 7th in pressures last year, all we need to do is draft faster linebackers and the pass rush issues would be solved. Quinn is a pass rush specialist so I wouldn't be concerned about finding replacements for our aging vets, he has a long track record of turning average players into pro-bowlers.  This is pretty much common knowledge around these parts, don't trust your eyes, trust the process. 

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54 minutes ago, insight said:

You are completely wrong, the word around here is we were 7th in pressures last year, all we need to do is draft faster linebackers and the pass rush issues would be solved. Quinn is a pass rush specialist so I wouldn't be concerned about finding replacements for our aging vets, he has a long track record of turning average players into pro-bowlers.  This is pretty much common knowledge around these parts, don't trust your eyes, trust the process. 

Still don't get it, eh? 

SAD!

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I think Jarrett is kind of going to be our new Babineaux. The jury is still out on Beasley...at this point I just want to see him stay healthy and see what happens. We need to heavily invest in the DL in the next couple of years. I think OL and WR have come around pretty well and RB is set up good also. Slowly but surely we are seeing less leaks in the dam, I like where we're headed. Still worried about the Ryan and Shanahan dynamic, but at least the roster is improving steadily.

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One thing to realize is that, in preseason,  they rarely [ never?] played what is going to be the starting D as a unit. You also saw very few stunts , blitzes, mixed coverages-anything exotic at all.

Think there's enough on the DLine to stop the run and get a little pass rush. Think Quinn will have to blitz more than he'd like, but maybe we get pleasantly surpized by Beasley, Freeney, Clayborn, Reed and Hageman.

Think the 1st and 2nd round picks should pretty much be linemen anyway, but definitely next year- one more solid player on each line would be great. Maybe Schweitzer and Garland are more than just depth and they don't need to spend a high pick on the OLine next year. That would give them a great deal of flexibility.

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1 minute ago, falconidae said:

One thing to realize is that, in preseason,  they rarely [ never?] played what is going to be the starting D as a unit. You also saw very few stunts , blitzes, mixed coverages-anything exotic at all.

Think there's enough on the DLine to stop the run and get a little pass rush. Think Quinn will have to blitz more than he'd like, but maybe we get pleasantly surpized by Beasley, Freeney, Clayborn, Reed and Hageman.

Think the 1st and 2nd round picks should pretty much be linemen anyway, but definitely next year- one more solid player on each line would be great. Maybe Schweitzer and Garland are more than just depth and they don't need to spend a high pick on the OLine next year. That would give them a great deal of flexibility.

I hope so.

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37 minutes ago, falconidae said:

One thing to realize is that, in preseason,  they rarely [ never?] played what is going to be the starting D as a unit. You also saw very few stunts , blitzes, mixed coverages-anything exotic at all.

Think there's enough on the DLine to stop the run and get a little pass rush. Think Quinn will have to blitz more than he'd like, but maybe we get pleasantly surpized by Beasley, Freeney, Clayborn, Reed and Hageman.

Think the 1st and 2nd round picks should pretty much be linemen anyway, but definitely next year- one more solid player on each line would be great. Maybe Schweitzer and Garland are more than just depth and they don't need to spend a high pick on the OLine next year. That would give them a great deal of flexibility.

maybe it was just me, but I remember during parts of some of, especially the first few games last year, seeing "better than we're used to seeing" pressure with just the front four. I hope this continues to improve

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17 minutes ago, papachaz said:

maybe it was just me, but I remember during parts of some of, especially the first few games last year, seeing "better than we're used to seeing" pressure with just the front four. I hope this continues to improve

I think we'll still see fewer sacks than we'd like, but, more 3 and outs.

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I like the potential of what is being built on defense.

CB:  Trufant, Alford, Collins

S:  Allen, Neal

LB: Jones, Campbell

LB/DL:  Beasley, Reed

DL:  Jarrett, Hageman?

Lots of young talent.  In my opinion, we don't have many needs personnel wise on offense - whether we keep our coaches is a different discussion.  I could see us going heavy on the DL next draft, but I don't see many glaring holes which is a big turnaround from the last couple of years.

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2 hours ago, Knight of God said:

The great thing is the potential. We have a front seven of a unknown. Even the secondary with Goldson and Neal at SS is unknown. So the thing is, this could be the greatest defense we have had, or not.

Exactly, but if you trust the potential of this group compared to the recent past, you have to be excited and optimistic as we start the season for what lies ahead, not just right now, but  next year and the year after.

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10 hours ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said:

Still don't get it, eh? 

SAD!

Get what? The fact we still do not have anything that resembles a robust pass rush. Why do you think we pursued Dwight Freeney in the 11th hour, he doesn't play linebacker?  

What I see is a refusal to  acknowledge when their arguments and viewpoints are flawed. I think that is sad because it prevents any serious exchange of ideas from occurring.  

 

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21 minutes ago, insight said:

Get what? The fact we still do not have anything that resembles a robust pass rush. Why do you think we pursued Dwight Freeney in the 11th hour, he doesn't play linebacker?  

What I see is a refusal to  acknowledge when their arguments and viewpoints are flawed. I think that is sad because prevents any serious exchange of ideas from occurring.  

 

Having an opinion about the pass rush before the regular season is dumb.

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