Ben Day Hoe Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Bit of a dated article. Yellins desire for NO audit and reading the 100 reasons FOR an audit are worth it though. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-25/janet-yellen-freaking-out-about-audit-fed-–-here-are-100-reasons-why-she-should-be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 “Audit the Fed” is not about auditing the Fed You might think that legislation widely known as “Audit the Fed” would have something to do with auditing the Fed, in the conventional sense of reviewing the institution’s financial assets and liabilities, records, and operations. You’d be wrong. The Fed is already thoroughly audited in the usual sense, by an independent inspector general and by an outside accounting firm (currently, Deloitte and Touche), and the resulting financial reports are made public online. Every security owned by the Fed, up to the detail of the identifying CUSIP number, is also available online. Moreover, the Government Accountability Office (GAO), which does in-depth reviews and analyses (“audits” of a different type) of government activities at the request of Congress, has wide latitude to review Fed operations, including supervision and regulation as well as other functions. For example, as required by the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010, the GAO conducted reviews of the Fed’s emergency lending programs during the crisis and of the Fed’s governance structure. Since the financial crisis, the GAO has done some 70 reviews of aspects of Fed operations. So what does Audit the Fed actually do? The principal effect of the bill would be to make meeting-by-meeting monetary policy decisions subject to Congressional review and, potentially, Congressional pressure. The bill would do this by repealing existing restrictions, imposed by Congress nearly forty years ago, on what the GAO can examine when reviewing the Fed. The most important such restriction blocks the GAO from reviewing “deliberations, decisions, or actions on monetary policy matters,” as well as “discussion or communication among or between members of the Board and officers and employees” related to such deliberations. The repeal of the existing restrictions would accordingly allow the GAO to view all materials and transcripts related to a meeting of the Fed’s Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) at essentially any time and require the GAO, at Congressional request, to provide recommendations on monetary policy, including potentially on individual FOMC interest-rate decisions. Effective Congressional oversight of the Fed is essential, of course, but it involves some complex tradeoffs. On the one hand, Congress has the ultimate responsibility of assuring itself and the public that monetary policy is being conducted reasonably and in the national interest. On the other hand, institutionally, Congress is not well-suited to make monetary policy decisions itself, because of the technical and time-sensitive nature of those decisions. Moreover, both historical experience and formal studies (for example, here, here, and here) have shown that monetary policy achieves better results when central bankers are allowed to focus on the longer-term interests of the economy, free of short-term political considerations. Following international best practice, Congress has for many years effectively managed these tradeoffs by setting goals for monetary policy—specifically, that policy be set to foster “maximum employment” and “stable prices”—and holding the Fed accountable for reaching them. Consistent with the principle of accountability, the Fed is allowed to determine the settings of policy without political interference (this is what is meant by “central bank independence”). In turn, the Fed must regularly report and explain its decisions to Congress and the public, and in particular it must demonstrate that it is meeting its Congressional mandate. In practice, the Fed’s public communications about policy take many forms. For example, in speeches and other public appearances, Fed policymakers lay out in detail the considerations affecting current and future policy moves, including arguments on both sides of the issue. The Fed chair faces reporters in four press conferences each year and testifies before a variety of Congressional committees, including two rounds explicitly focused on monetary policy. Public Congressional testimonies are supplemented by dozens of meetings and calls each year between the chair and members of Congress, as well as frequent contacts between Fed and Congressional staff members. Detailed minutes of each FOMC meeting are released three weeks after the meeting is held, and verbatim transcripts after five years. (See here for the minutes from the December, 2015 meeting and herefor the most recent released transcripts.) Fed policymakers also release each quarter their individual economic forecasts, including their forecasts of the future interest rate path needed to meet legislated objectives. The Fed should continue to strive to improve its transparency and accountability, and in particular to ensure that Congress has all the information it needs to fulfill its oversight responsibilities. However, this goal is not best achieved by overturning longstanding practice and effectively inserting Congress and the GAO into monetary policy decisions, calling into question the Fed’s independence. The risk is that GAO reviews and recommendations concerning individual monetary policy decisions would provide a vehicle for members of Congress to apply political pressure on the Fed. There are certainly precedents for such pressure: The classic example occurred in the early 1980s, when then-Fed chair Paul Volcker’s ultimately successful efforts to conquer inflation faced Congressional uproar. An additional potential cost is that the candor of FOMC discussions and of the supporting materials prepared by the staff could be compromised, given that even short-term confidentiality could never be assured. Of course, the Fed makes mistakes, sometimes big ones, as I am sure commenters will point out. Monetary policy is complex and must be conducted under tremendous uncertainty about both the economic outlook and how the economy works. Nevertheless, I know from first-hand experience that the FOMC sets monetary policy with the best technical information available and without any consideration of politics or partisanship. I am also confident that political interventions in monetary policy decisions would not lead to better results. But increasing the likelihood of such interventions is precisely the risk presented by “Audit the Fed.” https://www.brookings.edu/blog/ben-bernanke/2016/01/11/audit-the-fed-is-not-about-auditing-the-fed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 30 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said: “Audit the Fed” is not about auditing the Fed You might think that legislation widely known as “Audit the Fed” would have something to do with auditing the Fed, in the conventional sense of reviewing the institution’s financial assets and liabilities, records, and operations. You’d be wrong. The Fed is already thoroughly audited in the usual sense, by an independent inspector general and by an outside accounting firm (currently, Deloitte and Touche), and the resulting financial reports are made public online. Every security owned by the Fed, up to the detail of the identifying CUSIP number, is also available online. Moreover, the Government Accountability Office (GAO), which does in-depth reviews and analyses (“audits” of a different type) of government activities at the request of Congress, has wide latitude to review Fed operations, including supervision and regulation as well as other functions. For example, as required by the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010, the GAO conducted reviews of the Fed’s emergency lending programs during the crisis and of the Fed’s governance structure. Since the financial crisis, the GAO has done some 70 reviews of aspects of Fed operations. So what does Audit the Fed actually do? The principal effect of the bill would be to make meeting-by-meeting monetary policy decisions subject to Congressional review and, potentially, Congressional pressure. The bill would do this by repealing existing restrictions, imposed by Congress nearly forty years ago, on what the GAO can examine when reviewing the Fed. The most important such restriction blocks the GAO from reviewing “deliberations, decisions, or actions on monetary policy matters,” as well as “discussion or communication among or between members of the Board and officers and employees” related to such deliberations. The repeal of the existing restrictions would accordingly allow the GAO to view all materials and transcripts related to a meeting of the Fed’s Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) at essentially any time and require the GAO, at Congressional request, to provide recommendations on monetary policy, including potentially on individual FOMC interest-rate decisions. Effective Congressional oversight of the Fed is essential, of course, but it involves some complex tradeoffs. On the one hand, Congress has the ultimate responsibility of assuring itself and the public that monetary policy is being conducted reasonably and in the national interest. On the other hand, institutionally, Congress is not well-suited to make monetary policy decisions itself, because of the technical and time-sensitive nature of those decisions. Moreover, both historical experience and formal studies (for example, here, here, and here) have shown that monetary policy achieves better results when central bankers are allowed to focus on the longer-term interests of the economy, free of short-term political considerations. Following international best practice, Congress has for many years effectively managed these tradeoffs by setting goals for monetary policy—specifically, that policy be set to foster “maximum employment” and “stable prices”—and holding the Fed accountable for reaching them. Consistent with the principle of accountability, the Fed is allowed to determine the settings of policy without political interference (this is what is meant by “central bank independence”). In turn, the Fed must regularly report and explain its decisions to Congress and the public, and in particular it must demonstrate that it is meeting its Congressional mandate. In practice, the Fed’s public communications about policy take many forms. For example, in speeches and other public appearances, Fed policymakers lay out in detail the considerations affecting current and future policy moves, including arguments on both sides of the issue. The Fed chair faces reporters in four press conferences each year and testifies before a variety of Congressional committees, including two rounds explicitly focused on monetary policy. Public Congressional testimonies are supplemented by dozens of meetings and calls each year between the chair and members of Congress, as well as frequent contacts between Fed and Congressional staff members. Detailed minutes of each FOMC meeting are released three weeks after the meeting is held, and verbatim transcripts after five years. (See here for the minutes from the December, 2015 meeting and herefor the most recent released transcripts.) Fed policymakers also release each quarter their individual economic forecasts, including their forecasts of the future interest rate path needed to meet legislated objectives. The Fed should continue to strive to improve its transparency and accountability, and in particular to ensure that Congress has all the information it needs to fulfill its oversight responsibilities. However, this goal is not best achieved by overturning longstanding practice and effectively inserting Congress and the GAO into monetary policy decisions, calling into question the Fed’s independence. The risk is that GAO reviews and recommendations concerning individual monetary policy decisions would provide a vehicle for members of Congress to apply political pressure on the Fed. There are certainly precedents for such pressure: The classic example occurred in the early 1980s, when then-Fed chair Paul Volcker’s ultimately successful efforts to conquer inflation faced Congressional uproar. An additional potential cost is that the candor of FOMC discussions and of the supporting materials prepared by the staff could be compromised, given that even short-term confidentiality could never be assured. Of course, the Fed makes mistakes, sometimes big ones, as I am sure commenters will point out. Monetary policy is complex and must be conducted under tremendous uncertainty about both the economic outlook and how the economy works. Nevertheless, I know from first-hand experience that the FOMC sets monetary policy with the best technical information available and without any consideration of politics or partisanship. I am also confident that political interventions in monetary policy decisions would not lead to better results. But increasing the likelihood of such interventions is precisely the risk presented by “Audit the Fed.” https://www.brookings.edu/blog/ben-bernanke/2016/01/11/audit-the-fed-is-not-about-auditing-the-fed/ I think the idea behind the audit would be to expose the flawed nature of its existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ben Day Hoe said: I think the idea behind the audit would be to expose the flawed nature of its existence. I think it would expose the disfunction of congress more than the nature of the FED. Considering how dysfunctional congress is, I would rather as much of Gov function not be tied to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 the federal reserve is a private bank. We don't need an act of Congress to audit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ocean Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 The Federal Reserve was created one island down from where I live, and former U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson currently owns the private island Little St. Simons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Billy Ocean said: The Federal Reserve was created one island down from where I live, and former U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson currently owns the private island Little St. Simons. is that a map of the new middle east? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Jekyll island, the bill was first named the Aldridge bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ocean Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 ♫ Secret society, tryin to keep an eye on me ♫ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 31 minutes ago, FalconsInstitutionalSize said: Jekyll island, the bill was first named the Aldridge bill Passed during Christmas holiday when no one was looking too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Ben Day Hoe said: Passed during Christmas holiday when no one was looking too just like the ahca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 On August 18, 2016 at 9:16 PM, FalconsInstitutionalSize said: just like the ahca #86 Sometimes we forget just how much money a trillion dollars is. If you were alive when Jesus Christ was born and you spent one million dollars every single day since that point, you still would not have spent one trillion dollars by now. We owe 18 trillion at least and there is no way to pay that much money back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 minute ago, WhenFalconsWin said: That's the thing about our government, they don't earn it, so they don't care. They have it given to them. I liken it to say a wife or teenage daughter at the mall with your credit card. If we would had term limits and bills that made it mandatory to balance the budget we wouldn't be in this mess. But as you can see the special interests/lobbbyist has virtually made that impossible. TRUTH! #85 If Bill Gates gave every single penny of his entire fortune to the U.S. government, it would only cover the U.S. budget deficit for 15 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Our current system is a debt based economy if we paid off the debt wed be broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, FalconsInstitutionalSize said: Our current system is a debt based economy if we paid off the debt wed be broke. What would we even pay it off with? CO2 credits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ben Day Hoe said: What would we even pay it off with? CO2 credits? imagination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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